: Internal cage in an 80?


liftedwithleather
10-21-2002, 07:22 PM
Has anyone done it? Pics, info? Will this make it top heavy too like an exo would?

60seriesguy
10-21-2002, 08:21 PM
They're very common in Venezuela, but I've never seen a design that I truly like. The problem lies with the front portion of it, there is no way to mount it securely without sacrificing the functionality of the dash and/or severely limiting access through the doors. I did see once that was interesting, where the guy had gone straight BEHIND the dash into the firewall, but it involved MAJOR fabrication and removal of the entire dash, windshield, etc... The end result was better than most, but again, it's just not an easy truck to do something like this on. You *could* just do a half-cage that goes from the rear cargo area to the b-pillars, wouldn't protect the pilot/copilot as much but it would really protect the passengers and help prevent a collapse of the roof.

They definitely add to the weight of the vehicle but it's not as bad as an exo.

I still think the best solution for a wheeling wagon is a half-exo cage that bolts through the body at the rear corners (d-pillars), at the c-pillars and at the top of the front fenders, with spreader bars across the roof and below the windshield. A friend of mine rolled his FJ60 HARD with one of these and while it did not protect the truck from all damage, it did prevent the collapse of the roof and even saved the windshield.

The take home point is that if you're wheeling an FZJ80 hard enough that rolling it has become a possible reality, you may want to reconsider and get yourself a dedicated trail rig. Just a thought....

BJ On Roids
10-21-2002, 08:39 PM
my grandparents have had two of these, in GXL 80s, the first was a bolt in aluminum one and the second one was welded in the vehicle, and bolted to the floor (as they felt it was safer than the alloy one) despite being heavier

both cages added incredibly to the safety, although drving them for a few hours you could get annoyed, as one of the pillars, rubbed your foot while accelerating (being right hand drive and right side accelerator) and the cruise control could fix this on the highway, also on high beam you could not indicate left, as it was too close, on standard beam though, you could indicate left, the clearance was tight on high beam!

they raced both vehicles, in round australia rallies and placed very well...... they rolled the 1995, but the 1992, tore a flare off, and thats about it! the drivetrains and stuff held up (33 muds and unlocked)

i did drive both vehicles, a LOT, as they weren't used when the events were over, as they were considered a little bit too tacky and common :flipoff2: to me it was like driving heaven!