howdy fellas...
id like some advice on getting a bit more out of the back of my xj in the flex dept.
im running alcan 6in mil wrapped springs, with a 1.5in lift shackle at the moment.

what do yall suggest?
(im not tryin to put revolvers on though)

Body lift HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sawzall and maybe some of them solid steel .5" or 1" liftblocks that rubicon express makes or used to make.

Rocktoad, you feelin alright? hes lookin for flex, not height <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">. Im not too familiar with the alcans, but if they have clamps, see if you can open em up. Also, and I dont know if you really wanna do this, but I have heard that "trimming" the military wrap some will let up some stiffness. However, should you break your mainleaf, you're fawked. Check your shocks to make sure they arent limiting travel, break out the ramp(oh my God!! did he say ramp?!?! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> ) Yes, break out the ramp and check your clearances. Make sure anything that may limit travel is addressed. Brake lines, make sure they are long enough. Also, get extended bump stops, its kinda hard to explain, but a longer bumpstop offers a better pivot point and keeps your springs from looking sad(get it? frown? lol I kill me! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> ) Greasable shackles? Thats a possibility for the rears. Maybe loosen up the shackle a bit too(not too much <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> ) Umm...thats all I can think of right now. Hope it helps.

must be the 37 hours of work in three days thats making me crazy <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by Just Plain Old Toad Now:
<STRONG>must be the 37 hours of work in three days thats making me crazy <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

No worries, bodylift on an XJ made it all worthwhile

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Did you make sure nothing is binding? IE, driveshaft, shocks, e-brake, brake lines, etc? Also try loosening your shackle bolts a little and greasing them up. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

i already have 4in of bodylift on my xj,so i think ive got that base covered. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

seriously though....ive got a good bit of sheetmetal from back there gone, and my shocks are, well, will be long enough in a few days....no other hangups...brakelines are good, shit is lubed, yada yada....
ill try loosening some of the clamps a bit and try it out.
thanks and keep em comin....peace
~John

do a quarter eliptic like we are. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by TJ Chicky:
<STRONG>do a quarter eliptic like we are. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

BLAHAHAHA hell yeah Chicky! Better yet, say phuckit and cut out the rear floor pan, make a couple of custom hoops that tie into a full internal/external cage, and do a complete custom coilover rear

<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> oops dammit, did I get carried away again? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I opened the clamps on my rear leafs and gained around a 1" of extra droop.

Quarter eliptic is the way to go though. Avalanche Eng. sells a kit.

Originally posted by California Dreamin:
<STRONG>BLAHAHAHA hell yeah Chicky! Better yet, say phuckit and cut out the rear floor pan, make a couple of custom hoops that tie into a full internal/external cage, and do a complete custom coilover rear

<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> oops dammit, did I get carried away again? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

external cages are for <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">'s but the coil over did cross my mind.Keep an eye out for the 99 XJ rockbuggy debutin soon!!!!why you ask because i gota make the payments and it isnt streetable anymore!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/fj.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by Drunken Redneck MotherFawker-DRM:
<STRONG>external cages are for <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">'s but the coil over did cross my mind.Keep an eye out for the 99 XJ rockbuggy debutin soon!!!!why you ask because i gota make the payments and it isnt streetable anymore!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/fj.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


Not if you do it right, saw a nice lookin one on a OD green XJ up on the web somewhere. Looked pretty fawkin cool to me. Also the nice thing about the external on an XJ is when you roll it a couple times, your unibody doesnt get all twisted to fawk and you can still close the doors(for the most part)

Originally posted by California Dreamin:
<STRONG>
Not if you do it right, saw a nice lookin one on a OD green XJ up on the web somewhere. Looked pretty fawkin cool to me. Also the nice thing about the external on an XJ is when you roll it a couple times, your unibody doesnt get all twisted to fawk and you can still close the doors(for the most part)</STRONG>who the fawk needs doors? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by JohnBuuu:
<STRONG>i already have 4in of bodylift on my xj,so i think ive got that base covered. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

seriously though....ive got a good bit of sheetmetal from back there gone, and my shocks are, well, will be long enough in a few days....no other hangups...brakelines are good, shit is lubed, yada yada....
ill try loosening some of the clamps a bit and try it out.
thanks and keep em comin....peace
~John</STRONG>
how about weld some steel blocks onto your axle...make it heavier so it pulls down more on your leafs <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> or add a 60!

Originally posted by JohnBuuu:
<STRONG>howdy fellas...
id like some advice on getting a bit more out of the back of my xj in the flex dept.
im running alcan 6in mil wrapped springs, with a 1.5in lift shackle at the moment.

what do yall suggest?
(im not tryin to put revolvers on though)</STRONG>


First question. How new are the springs?

maybe pull a leaf out of the bottom of the leaf pack? expecially if you don't haul anything. But also like mike said how old are the springs?

firstly...ive got an hp 60 on the way....
secondly....i have plans for for a custom coilover in the rear, but i doubt ill do that anytime soon. im trying to take the xj as hardcore as i can, while still keeping it safe on road....i like the simplicity and functionality of the leafs.
also, the leafs are about a year old, they are broken in. id like to avoid removing leafs from it as well.
i know this isnt leaving a huge amount of options open...
i love the flex of the quarter elip, but that doesnt exactly fit in too well with keeping it street safe.
i suppose proper shock legnth, and maybe modifying my shackle location and setup similar to "borton" would be on order
thanks for the help fellas, and keep it comin!
~John

Hey John, you better strengthen up the rear shackle mount area, and main eye mount area, that damn 60's weighs a ton, especially adding huge tires.

Originally posted by SOCALXJ:
<STRONG>Hey John, you better strengthen up the rear shackle mount area, and main eye mount area, that damn 60's weighs a ton, especially adding huge tires.</STRONG>
reinforcement braces for that area are in the works, as well as a sick uniframe cradle with rollcage tie in points in the works.

Not 1/4 elliptic, but how about 3/4 elliptic? I had a buddy with a YJ that did a buggt spring front and had plates on the side of the buggy spring. The plates did two things. The added stability to keep it from shifting to the side and he inserted a pin when driving on the highway. It acts just like regular leaf springs when pinned, and a buggy spring when disconnected. I thought it was a great idea.

-Bart

Johnbuuu, I like how mine works, but, it will give you a couple of inches more lift doing it how I did mine, I'm now close to where the revolvers gave me with out the rear steer affects of them and bad affects on steep stuff.
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