: turbo on the ftoy?


Spacecwboy
07-25-2010, 01:42 PM
i am looking at putting a turbo on my ftoy from a volvo 4 cyl, 1.1 or 1.3 liter, ihi brand turbo. anyone running a turbo on their ftoy? im looking at doing it just because, not really out of necessity. figure it would be something a little different. anyone running one or know a good reference website where I can do some of my research.

jpfrk2001
07-25-2010, 04:25 PM
Pick up this book. It is a must read for anyone going into the forced induction world.

http://www.amazon.com/Street-TurbochargingHP1488-Installation-High-Performance-Turbocharger/dp/1557884889

It really helped me in my project. Kept me from making costly mistakes. You don't want to blow your motor.

This is a thread I started. Read it as well. It will give you a lowdown quick and dirty version of the book:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=845205&highlight=

Sounds like an awsome project for an F-Toy. :grinpimp:

mtbrjon
07-26-2010, 02:58 AM
i am looking at putting a turbo on my ftoy from a volvo 4 cyl, 1.1 or 1.3 liter, ihi brand turbo. anyone running a turbo on their ftoy? im looking at doing it just because, not really out of necessity. figure it would be something a little different. anyone running one or know a good reference website where I can do some of my research.

Get in touch with Cary at www.Gotpropane.com . I had one of his Volvo turbos on the trail rig I just sold. Best mod I have ever done!

losekannon
07-27-2010, 08:59 AM
I am going to build a new motor on propane with a turbo for my Ftoy, same reason as you, "why not" :smokin:
Using a turbo out of a Dodge something that was a 2.4 so it should work pretty good, have an intercooler from a Volvo, I think. Going to try and get it done soon, see how that goes.

MT4Runner
07-27-2010, 09:35 AM
If you're going to the effort of replacing the motor and adding a turbo....why not a 2/3rz...and turbo that?

Instead of a low-speed, torquey motor, turbo something that really revs!!

Jeep07
07-27-2010, 10:51 AM
I am going to build a new motor on propane with a turbo for my Ftoy, same reason as you, "why not" :smokin:
Using a turbo out of a Dodge something that was a 2.4 so it should work pretty good, have an intercooler from a Volvo, I think. Going to try and get it done soon, see how that goes.

Ditch the intercooler..

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4710699&postcount=17

skonkerd
07-27-2010, 01:30 PM
for me, i like the reliability or the ol 22, plus you can unbolt it and be back to comp

jpfrk2001
07-27-2010, 02:04 PM
Since thats how "Got Propane" says to run it, it makes sense. The injection of the propane into the compresser will keep the charge air cool as it enters the motor. Not to mention you now have a compressed combustable mixture. Basically doing a "Draw through" system instead of the standard "Force through" Theres nothing wrong with doing it that way.

School me on this people: Is the injection plate a seperate entity of the butterfly fly plate? Is it in one configuration? I don't know much at all about propane injection systems.

What do you do to tune for vacumn running conditions to not run rich? It would seem to me, to beable to tune the propane system for both vacumn and pressure conditions.

mtbrjon
07-27-2010, 06:22 PM
Since thats how "Got Propane" says to run it, it makes sense. The injection of the propane into the compresser will keep the charge air cool as it enters the motor. Not to mention you now have a compressed combustable mixture. Basically doing a "Draw through" system instead of the standard "Force through" Theres nothing wrong with doing it that way.

School me on this people: Is the injection plate a seperate entity of the butterfly fly plate? Is it in one configuration? I don't know much at all about propane injection systems.

What do you do to tune for vacumn running conditions to not run rich? It would seem to me, to beable to tune the propane system for both vacumn and pressure conditions.

Butterfly is seperate. Mixer has a diaphram that is pulled by vacuum and allows propane vapor to mix with inlet air. The more the diaphram is pulled the more propane you get. Note: If you have a large intake leak like a vacuum port cap blows off during high boost the engine will die and not restart because there will not be sufficient vacuum to pull the mixer open. (Ask me how I know). There is a "mixture" valve on the vapor inlet line to regulate the flow from the regulator. I ran mine with a wide band o2 to be sure it wasn't running lean when I first installed the turbo but removed once I had it tuned.

Only thing you really need to know about propane and turbos on Toyotas is www.gotpropane.com.:D

seriousscout
07-27-2010, 08:31 PM
Ditch the intercooler..

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4710699&postcount=17

you can run the intercooler you have to put the carb after the cooler on the manifold there is a balance port on the carb and the regulator you need to conect them to gather for boost inrichment use a 425 mixer and model E regulator

scrappy1982
07-29-2010, 04:07 PM
i agree built 3 turbo rigs and carys turbo the best so far still have mine after 4years:D

Spacecwboy
07-29-2010, 07:59 PM
i tryed to look up cary's, nothing on the site that i can find. called and he is now on vacation so im left in the dark.

did you guys do any engine mods? i talked to a local toyota mechanic, he insists that i will need a new engine (a 22r-t) because of the excess pressure from the turbo. thoughts?

jpfrk2001
07-30-2010, 03:19 PM
i tryed to look up cary's, nothing on the site that i can find. called and he is now on vacation so im left in the dark.

did you guys do any engine mods? i talked to a local toyota mechanic, he insists that i will need a new engine (a 22r-t) because of the excess pressure from the turbo. thoughts?

Of course the local toy mechanic will say that. He wants you to give em some money! Just keep boost pressures below 8lbs and you should be fine. If your really worried, set the system to 6 lbs. I hear those 22R's are stupid strong and can take a serious beating. Thats why you all use em in your class. But if you ever must go into the engine for any reason, replace the pistons with some deep dish turbo pistons. But all this does is allows you to run higher pressures(15-20lbs). Basically, you run a engine with a static CR of say, 9.5:1 with 8 lbs of boost, or run same engine with a static 8:1 and 15 lbs of boost.

For example, A buddy of mine, along with a shop and my self, are exploring a engine build specifically for a turbo. The idea is to build a engine with a Static CR of 10.5:1 using forged rods and special turbo pistons (ceramic coated) and throwing 12LBS of boost on top of that. We seriously think the outcome will be outragous and awsome.

Just build the damn thing. Don't be scared.:flipoff2:

scrappy1982
07-31-2010, 03:31 PM
we got one buggy with a motor with 200,000 miles and put 10psi to it
and one with new stock internals 12psi and no problems:eek:

Spacecwboy
07-31-2010, 08:40 PM
did you run the toyota turbo stuff or something else?

rugburn
08-01-2010, 06:36 AM
http://www.blackflag4x4.com/Unclejesse.htm

scrappy1982
08-01-2010, 04:05 PM
no toyota stuff i used careys volvo turbo and make my own manifold