This woman is a real piece of work and is defrauding people with a fake horse rescue/non profit charity scam. She also claims an illustrious career as an Army test pilot.
Her name is Celeita Kramer and has never met me but has been trashing my name because I had the gall to call her out on some shady dealings. The only things I can really find on her are complaints from people she ripped off or stuff she has written. Looking for some info on her actual military career.
http://www.crossedsabers.com/SECOND_WIND_ADOPTION_PROGRAM/Our_Staff.htm

Just kick her ass instead

Togtfo

When you google her name this link comes up under 'searches related to':
celeita kramer fraud and scam (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*&q=celeita+kramer+fraud+and+scam&revid=1588897873&sa=X&ei=-HRpTMPCM4H98AaE4uyzBA&ved=0CEkQ1QIoAQ)

:laughing:

Togtfo

Well post some then.:p

Well post some then.:p
Yes please. To both of you.

:laughing::lmao:Togtfo

any details of her supposed army career?

Here's her linked in, its got what she's posted about her army on it:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/cakramer

When you google her name this link comes up under 'searches related to':
celeita kramer fraud and scam (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*&q=celeita+kramer+fraud+and+scam&revid=1588897873&sa=X&ei=-HRpTMPCM4H98AaE4uyzBA&ved=0CEkQ1QIoAQ)

:laughing:

For the 1 billionth time: when YOU google her name, PBB comes up because Google tailors the search results to your browsing habits. When 'other' people google her name, they get mostly different results.

When you google her name this link comes up under 'searches related to':
celeita kramer fraud and scam (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*&q=celeita+kramer+fraud+and+scam&revid=1588897873&sa=X&ei=-HRpTMPCM4H98AaE4uyzBA&ved=0CEkQ1QIoAQ)

:laughing:

Yep! I found the same thing. I was on her black list apparently but she pulled it off her website.:laughing:

Yes please. To both of you.

He has them all.:D

He has them all.:D
Please, sir, can I have some more? :flipoff2:

She is defrauding people by saying that she is a non profit and all donations are tax deductible. I am also wondering if she is misrepresenting her military credentials for financial gain. Some of her claims seem to be a little out there.

any details of her supposed army career?

Professionally, Celeita had 23 years with the US Army as an Officer & Blackhawk Test Pilot. Celeita was the 24th woman in DoD to earn military aviator wings, the first woman in DoD to fly & test fly the UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter. A former Pan Am pilot, she holds an FAA Commercial pilot's license (dual engine & instrument) with over 3000 commercial and military flight hours. In 1995, she was the youngest woman to be inducted into the West Virginia Women's Hall of Fame. Her picture is in the main hall of the Women's Military Memorial in Washington, DC, and was included in the Smithsonian Institute's Air and Space Museum 1986 display, "Women in Aviation. She was awarded the coveted Sikorsky Rescue Award for saving a life using a helicopter, chosen as one of the Most Admired Women of the Decade, Woman of the Year, One of the 2000 Most Notable American Women, one of the 5000 Most Notable Women in the World. She is a PADI Rescue Scuba Diver, former Harness Race Horse Owner & attended the US Trotting Associations Driver Training, Farrier training in Oklahoma & a certified Equine Sports Massage Therapist.

He has them all.:D

I am 3 hours away, you have multiple mirrors and a fucking droid, start shooting.

that top you were wearing this weekend should bribe these fuckers just fine.

Please, sir, can I have some more? :flipoff2:

Hey Gil, send Bacon another pic of your ass so that he can add to his collection. :laughing:

I am 3 hours away, you have multiple mirrors and a fucking droid, start shooting.

that top you were wearing this weekend should bribe these fuckers just fine.

Little hard to do at work.:p
Besides if I could figure out this firefox issue I could post some.

I am 3 hours away, you have multiple mirrors and a fucking droid, start shooting.

that top you were wearing this weekend should bribe these fuckers just fine.

that's how you lay it down right there.

I would think there would be a list of that Smithsonian exhibit.

so what exactly do you want to know about her military?

Hey Gil, send Bacon another pic of your ass so that he can add to his collection. :laughing:
Gil has such a cute ass though.


Totally have about 10 jokes to go with this, but I'd be afraid Gil would hunt me down and hurt me

I am 3 hours away, you have multiple mirrors and a fucking droid, start shooting.

that top you were wearing this weekend should bribe these fuckers just fine.

I'm sure her private stalker could lend one of his free hands to hold the camera. :laughing:

Suprised he hasn't posted in here yet.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/women_aviators/womenavsp.htm

list of all women that have photos or artifacts in the NASM.

Can't find anything definitive on the special 1986 display.

For those with red stars. 35%
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819465&highlight=
Cheap bastages can go here. 35%
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819463&highlight=

Sorry best I can do right now.

everything I am reading and seeing is saying a LOT of fluff/BS to what she said she did. bitch is fucking unstable if you ask me :laughing:
http://forums.ablackhorse.com/lofiversion/index.php?t21137.html

so what exactly do you want to know about her military?

How many of her claims are true.

I also looked into her claims of being a tax exempt charity and the IRS has no record of her being a 501(c)3 charity at all.
As per her website..
Donations are tax-deductible to the extent of the law. Equine donors receive a letter of acknowledgement stating the horse was donated at the time of adoption or at the end of the year, which ever comes first. In many cases, but not all, the horse may be deducted at its fair market value (or appraised value if believed to be over $5000) depending on whether the horse was considered a business asset or not and on a depreciated schedule. A CPA should be consulted for accuracy

everything I am reading and seeing is saying a LOT of fluff/BS to what she said she did. bitch is fucking unstable if you ask me :laughing:
http://forums.ablackhorse.com/lofiversion/index.php?t21137.html

Totally batchit crazy.:laughing:

ok lets start.

Professionally, Celeita had 23 years with the US Army as an Officer & Blackhawk Test Pilot.I call bullshit Celeita was the 24th woman in DoD to earn military aviator wings,easy to find the first woman in DoD to fly & test fly the UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter. A former Pan Am pilot, she holds an FAA Commercial pilot's license (dual engine & instrument) with over 3000 commercial and military flight hours. In 1995, she was the youngest woman to be inducted into the West Virginia Women's Hall of Fame.wut? someone find me a proof this even exists as I am not finding shit that it it even real. Her picture is in the main hall of the Women's Military Memorial in Washington, DC,don't make me check durring lunch and was included in the Smithsonian Institute's Air and Space Museum 1986 display, "Women in Aviation. She was awarded the coveted Sikorsky Rescue Award hard to prove as there has been like 2 million of them given out or some shitfor saving a life using a helicopter, chosen as one of the Most Admired Women of the Decade, Woman of the Year, One of the 2000 Most Notable American Women,by who :laughing: one of the 5000 Most Notable Women in the World. She is a PADI Rescue Scuba Diver, former Harness Race Horse Owner & attended the US Trotting Associations Driver Training, Farrier training in Oklahoma & a certified Equine Sports Massage Therapist

Army Officer, Helicopter Pilot, Blackhawk Test Pilot, Battalion XO, State Auditor for WV
US Army, US Army Reserves and US Army National Guard
(Military industry)

May 1980 — October 2003 (23 years 6 months)

Supervisory Auditor, Battalion Executive Officer, Aeromedical Evacuation Pilot, Public Affairs Officer, Helicopter Pilot, Aviation Readiness Officer, Company Commander, Aviation Section Leader, Platoon Leader, Unit Aircraft Maintenance Officer, UH-60 Pilot and Test Pilot, Pilot in Command, Blackhawk Fielding Officer, OLR Project Officer, UH-1H pilot, Assistant Operations Officer

Ft. Eustis, VA, Ft. Bragg, NC, Ft. Rucker, AL, Republic of Korea, Ft. Campbell, KY, Japan, VT Army National Guard, Ft. Des Moines, IA, WV Army National Guard

US Property and Fiscal Office, Regional Training Institute, 146th Medical Co (Air Ambulance) Army Aviation Support Facility, 103rd Corps Support Command, 1/222 Aviation Regiment, 86th Air Traffic Control Battalion, 45th Transportation Company (AVIM), 8th US Army, 57th Medical Detachment (Dustoff), 18th Airborne Corps, Ft. Bragg, NC, 158th Aviation Battalion (Assault Helicopter), 101st Airborne Division, Ft. Campbell, KY


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Celeita Kramer’s Education
US Army Schools
Aviation, Transportation, Medical Service 1980 — 2003

USARNG Total Quality Management Facilitator’s Course, Camp Frettard, MD., 1996
US Army Aeromedical Evacuation Officers Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1994
US Army Medical Service Corps Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Sam Houston, TX., 1994
USARNG Pre-Command Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1993
USARNG Aviation Mishap Prevention Course, Ft, Indiantown Gap, PA., 1992
US Army Aviation Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1991
US Army Aviation Water Survival Course, Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, South Pacific, 1991
US Army UH-1H Helicopter Refresher Flight Training, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1986
US Army Test Pilot Course (AMOC II), Ft. Eustis, VA., 1982
US Army Aviation Maintenance Officers Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1981
US Army Advanced Qualification For Uh-60 Blackhawk, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1981
US Army Marine Terminal Operations Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1980
US Army Transportation Officers Basic Course, Ft. Eustis, Va., 1980

Activities and Societies:
USARNG Intermediate Auditing & Internal Review Course, Ft. Fisher, NC., 1997
US Army Command & General Staff College, Ft. Leavenworth, KS., 1996
USARNG Battle Focused Instructor Training Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1996


lots of fluff here

ok, I am not even going to touch this list :laughing: this is some fluff bullshit that can not be proven to be real at all

Celeita Kramer’s Honors:
Who’s Who among Colleges and Universities 1980

First Woman in DOD to Fly/Test Fly the UH-60 Blackhawk

Smithsonian Institute’s Air and Space Museum 1985 display on Women in Aviation

1 of 5000 Most Notable Women in the World 1990

1 of 2000 Most Notable American Women

Distinguished Leadership Award 1988

Field Grade Military Officer, 23 yrs of service

Senior Army Aviator, 14 yrs of accident free service, Commercial Pilots License, Instrument/Dual Engine

WV Women’s Hall of Fame

Excellence in Fitness & Presidential Sports Awards

In the Women’s Military Memorial

1 of Most Admired Women of the Decade

Who’s Who of Professional & Business Women 1993

Woman of the Year 1992

1 of Most Admired Women in West Virginia 1991

Meritorious Service Medal

Army Commendation Medal

Army Achievement Medal

Armed Forces Reserve Medal

3 Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal

Sikorsky Helicopter Rescue Award

National Leadership Award 2007

As far as I know, the Army doesn't have fixed-wing aircraft. So how did she become multi-engine instrument rated? Private flight school? Why not list the private flight school?

It has been verified that her equine education credentials are total BS.
What concerns me the most is after reading her website is that she is neglecting/abusing the animals in her care. Her fattening up regiment for starved horses is the equivalent of putting weight on a human with beer and twinkies.

putting weight on a human with beer and twinkies.


where's the problem here?

The Sikorsky life-saving award is real. My dad was a CG pilot and had about 6 of those. It's neat, but not exactly a super-duper special honor.

Smithsonian doesnt show that exibit to have existed...http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/past.cfm

do not google search "Celeita Kramer blacklist" :eek: holy fucking psyco :laughing:

Bev, this bitch is too crazy for you, walk away :laughing: its like the center of the black hole that all the crazy in horse women comes from

ok, I am not even going to touch this list :laughing: this is some fluff bullshit that can not be proven to be real at all

Celeita Kramer’s Honors:
Who’s Who among Colleges and Universities 1980
For the right amount of cash anyone can be there.
First Woman in DOD to Fly/Test Fly the UH-60 Blackhawk

Smithsonian Institute’s Air and Space Museum 1985 display on Women in Aviation

1 of 5000 Most Notable Women in the World 1990

1 of 2000 Most Notable American Women

Distinguished Leadership Award 1988

Field Grade Military Officer, 23 yrs of service

Senior Army Aviator, 14 yrs of accident free service, Commercial Pilots License, Instrument/Dual Engine

WV Women’s Hall of Fame

Excellence in Fitness & Presidential Sports Awards
Got that in elementary school
In the Women’s Military Memorial
Free listing. I am in there as well
1 of Most Admired Women of the Decade
In her own mind
Who’s Who of Professional & Business Women 1993
Cash talks
Woman of the Year 1992

1 of Most Admired Women in West Virginia 1991

Meritorious Service Medal

Army Commendation Medal

Army Achievement Medal

Armed Forces Reserve Medal

3 Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal
Big deal. I am sure there are tons of people with those

Sikorsky Helicopter Rescue Award

National Leadership Award 2007

Few things can actually be verified.
She has photos on the site in uniform.

link below in red. Search for key word "celeita" and you'll find her. ok, I am not even going to touch this list :laughing: this is some fluff bullshit that can not be proven to be real at all

Celeita Kramer’s Honors:
Who’s Who among Colleges and Universities 1980

First Woman in DOD to Fly/Test Fly the UH-60 Blackhawk

Smithsonian Institute’s Air and Space Museum 1985 display on Women in Aviation

1 of 5000 Most Notable Women in the World 1990

1 of 2000 Most Notable American Women

Distinguished Leadership Award 1988

Field Grade Military Officer, 23 yrs of service

Senior Army Aviator, 14 yrs of accident free service, Commercial Pilots License, Instrument/Dual Engine

WV Women’s Hall of Fame link: http://www.wvdhhr.org/women/celebrate_women/leg2005/s--hall%20of%20fame%20list.pdf

Excellence in Fitness & Presidential Sports Awards

In the Women’s Military Memorial

1 of Most Admired Women of the Decade

Who’s Who of Professional & Business Women 1993

Woman of the Year 1992

1 of Most Admired Women in West Virginia 1991

Meritorious Service Medal

Army Commendation Medal

Army Achievement Medal

Armed Forces Reserve Medal

3 Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal

Sikorsky Helicopter Rescue Award

National Leadership Award 2007

I'm of no use to you regarding Celeita's military career; I'm sure there's others here who would be better at that, but I do have some links for you regarding her horse practices, some of which you may already have seen.

http://fulltiltequines.blogspot.com/2008/10/celeita-kramer-at-crossed-sabers.html
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/doddridge-wv/TDD3EQSVN0H8SF61E
http://coh.fuseiqlab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185269
http://majos-stall.com/swap.html
http://fuglyblog.com/?p=2183
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116746
http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=124062
http://www.xomreviews.com/crossedsabers.com

do not google search "Celeita Kramer blacklist" :eek: holy fucking psyco :laughing:

Bev, this bitch is too crazy for you, walk away :laughing: its like the center of the black hole that all the crazy in horse women comes from

I just don't like my name drug through the mud. I have a stellar reputation in the horse industry and don't want it sullied because of some moron. She makes us all look bad.

what year did she blacklist you?
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.crossedsabers.com/ABOUT%20US/SWAP_Black_List.htm

link below in red. Search for key word "celeita" and you'll find her.

Wow...buried in the Health and Human Resources dept website. And appears confirmed.

and no more help from me till tits :flipoff2:

and no more help from me till tits :flipoff2:
Don't bogart the tits, asshole. :flipoff2:

How many of her claims are true.

I also looked into her claims of being a tax exempt charity and the IRS has no record of her being a 501(c)3 charity at all.
As per her website..

agreed. i can't find a Form 990 on "Crossed Sabers" or "Second Wind Adoption" or any combination of those terms... no 990 = no tax exempt status. different levels of income/assets mean different forms, but all of them are 990 variants.

fwiw i run a non profit org and know all the ins and outs of the IRS labyrinth. no 990 = exempt status.

and no more help from me till tits :flipoff2:

Posted links.:p
Not sure when she supposedly put me on black list. Just a heads up from someone who knows me. Looking through them right now.
Thanks!

Well at least she did not mention me by name that I can find so far. But I did find a legitimate rescue org. that she has talked shit about that I worked rather closely with.

agreed. i can't find a Form 990 on "Crossed Sabers" or "Second Wind Adoption" or any combination of those terms... no 990 = no tax exempt status. different levels of income/assets mean different forms, but all of them are 990 variants.

fwiw i run a non profit org and know all the ins and outs of the IRS labyrinth. no 990 = exempt status.

sounds like the IRS should be getting an anonymous phone call...

As far as I know, the Army doesn't have fixed-wing aircraft.

They do.........

They do.........

any information you want to share?

They do.........

any information you want to share?

seems pretty simple. they have stuff that flies, if they fly they gotta have a wing somewhere, stuff breaks so when they fix it it's now a fixed wing aircraft

sheesh:shaking:

oh, now I get it. thanks :flipoff2:

any information you want to share?

http://www.rucker.army.mil/docs/usaace_info/USAACE%20Info%20Paper%20TCM-L%20Fixed%20Wing%2022%20Mar%2010.pdf

There you have it. :)

http://www.greatwomen.org/women.php?action=viewProfile&letter=K

Something is missing from this site.

edit* that's the national apparently. Google can't find the "West Virginia" Women's Hall of Fame.

USARNG Total Quality Management Facilitator’s Course, Camp Frettard, MD., 1996
US Army Aeromedical Evacuation Officers Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1994
US Army Medical Service Corps Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Sam Houston, TX., 1994
USARNG Pre-Command Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1993
USARNG Aviation Mishap Prevention Course, Ft, Indiantown Gap, PA., 1992
US Army Aviation Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1991
US Army Aviation Water Survival Course, Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, South Pacific, 1991
US Army UH-1H Helicopter Refresher Flight Training, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1986
US Army Test Pilot Course (AMOC II), Ft. Eustis, VA., 1982
US Army Aviation Maintenance Officers Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1981
US Army Advanced Qualification For Uh-60 Blackhawk, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1981
US Army Marine Terminal Operations Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1980
US Army Transportation Officers Basic Course, Ft. Eustis, Va., 1980

Ok, the transportation officers course is not aviation related, and her first course is the test pilot course in Eustis (I went about the same time for AH-64) She shows NO basic rotary wing course completion, her first aviation course is a course that can only be taken after 500 hrs in the aircraft which she shows no completion for. Mine basically shows the Rotary wing basic, as the oldest and then UH-1 qualification, then OH-58 qualification, and then AH-64 qualification. Basically all her resume show's is the advanced courses and no qualification courses.

Oh and by the way the army aviation maintenance officer course is a "non-flying" course. i.e. you don't have to be a pilot to go to the course.

And if I'm not mistaken the "test-pilot" course for the fixed wing components is at Pax River Naval, the maintenance test pilot course is the only flying course at Ft. Eustis

also typically when your picture is in a memorial aren't you dead?

Oh and by the way the army aviation maintenance officer course is a "non-flying" course. i.e. you don't have to be a pilot to go to the course.

And if I'm not mistaken the "test-pilot" course for the fixed wing components is at Pax River Naval, the maintenance test pilot course is the only flying course at Ft. Eustis

Also, wouldn't it be a little odd for a 23 yr fawking test pilot, the first female to fly a uh60, rescue some folks, etc etc, to only have some low level medals to show for it?

do not google search "Celeita Kramer blacklist" :eek: holy fucking psyco :laughing:

Bev, this bitch is too crazy for you, walk away :laughing: its like the center of the black hole that all the crazy in horse women comes from

Kinda like the crazy cat lady, but in a much bigger way

:laughing::laughing:

Celeita A. Kramer

horseygirl55@aol.com


just taking notes in this thread. My following few posts will be pretty random.

I was the youngest AH-64 test pilot at that time at 24. the apache was only a few years in service so it was nothing great. the UH-60 isn't much older so even as a maintenance test pilot it's not a big deal.

One other thing to note, the military hates doing multiple paths for the same person. Avaition basically has 3 routes Safety, maintenance and Instructor pilot, her training also shows the safety course which in my opinion is unlikely, but the National guard does some strange stuff.

lot of weird shit with this woman. she's not all there.

http://forums.ablackhorse.com/lofiversion/index.php?t21137.html

read the comments following her post. apparently she has a weird history among her "peers" on that site.

http://www.plaxo.com/directory/profile/201863848988/e14f067f/Celeita/Kramer

just in case...

Professional Summary
Work like you don't need the money, Dance like no one is watching, Love like you've never been hurt, Sing like its your last song

I work hard at a labor of love that gives great joy & fatigue. It's so serious I lean toward pure entertainment & fun when off. I love to laugh and have a rich sense of humor. Comfortable in all settings, an independent lass that can relate to anyone. Easy keeper/low maintenance, always happy. a 'work in progress' student of life, multi layered onion & great cheerleader. Believe all dreams are obtainable with taking 1 step at a time and we must take that step today, even if its a baby step. I believe in dreaming big, knowing they can and will come true. Have a million stories & one liners. Love traveling, farm visitors, country living, a fireplace, gazing at stars, taking a ride, watching an action film/comedy, waking up outside, college football, farm league baseball, rappelling, my dodge ram, weapons/aircraft/cars, expanding horizons, testing my limits and learning new things. totally honest and nothing to hide, my life has made me who I am. I don't mind taking a calculated risk if it makes sense. I would rather do something vs. going out to eat with friends ... anything fun (hiking, biking, fishing, camping, anything cultural, festivals, shows, riding, fairs, races, anything on or in the water, sporting events, flying, working out, even learning something new is always fun, working on a home/farm project). I was Born in Huntington, WV. went to school in Ohio and WV, then stationed all over the world in the military, then returned home to WV. My fathers family settled in western PA from Germany. Ancestry is Irish and German, fiesty and slighty hard headed. I Believe in god, angels, prayer, karma, the golden rule, the 10 commandments and life after death but don't attend services. I feel every religion/belief has something we can use in our life. when you focus on giving, great things come back. Helping horses, dogs and cats is at the center of my life and dominates my focus and vision.
Contact Info
Email
Horseygirl55@aol.com (work)
secondwindadopt@aol.com (work)
Phone
304-873-3532 (work)
304-873-1867 (work fax)
Website
www.crossedsabers.com (work)
Address
Rt 2 Box 24A Jockey Camp Road,
West Union, WV 26456 (work)
Work/Education
Work Experience

Crossed Sabers Stable The Mountain State Horse School and Second Wind Adoption Program Inc and the International Life School / Owner, President and Executive Director
1996 - Present
•Responsible for the management of all company operations, equine boarding, training, instruction, transportation, strategic planning, sales and marketing, research and development, new products, fund raising, all human resources functions, logistics and administration.

•I began this business 10 years ago, with almost nothing and today it works as a fully functional horse business offering numerous services to local, state, national and international horse enthusiasts. Besides placing horses into homes, the stable has a long list of educational and support/services programs, to include a fully functional college intern program that gives volunteers college credit and scholarship programs, rehabilitation, retirement, schooling for horse people.

•10 years ago I founded a national not for profit animal welfare program that places horses into good homes all over the country. Adoption is rescue prevention and as of 1/08 we have placed 2000 horses. 65 different breeds have been in the program. Our web site consistently has 40 million visitors every year from over 113 different countries. This is an international program which supports all of the continental United States and Canada.

•Because of my work in the horse industry, I have been asked to participate in varies activities with the US Horse Council, US Humane Society and WV Horseman’s Association, in order to promote the horse industry in the state. I have completed expert witness duties on 12 cases and assisted law enforcement in seizing and prosecuting against animal or horse abuse and neglect and completed lobbying of both national and state executive branch of the government. This farm has gone from a run down, failing, former veal farm and into an establishment that is bringing money into the county and state, is providing a service to people throughout the horse industry, is employing several local residents & college students, with land and facilities that are now functional again.


Past Awards include:
• Who’s Who among Colleges and Universities for 1980

• Awarded Army Aviator Wings (24th woman to ever earn military aviator wings)

• First Woman in DOD to Fly and Test Fly the UH-60 Blackhawk

• Awarded the Distinguished Military Student and Distinguished Military Graduate

• ROTC Cadet Corps Commander and XO (Cadet LTC), Editor of the ROTC Newspaper

• Awarded the title of Ms. Pershing Rifles two years straight

• Awarded a WV Department of Education Teaching Certificate for grades 1-6 all subjects

• Completed a qualification as a Military Instructor

• Graduated cum laude from West Virginia State College

• Awarded Excellence in Scholarship and the Outstanding Cadet Award

• Included in the Smithsonian Institute’s Air and Space Museum 1985 display on Women in Aviation

• Within 8 months of joining GE’s sales team, I obtained a weapons modification contract and a contract for a new production line for GE (with Army Special Operations), something that the company had been unable to do previously. This put gatling guns on utility aircraft for the first time since the Vietnam war. I was able to give GE’s capabilities a lot of visibility with all 4 services and in the international community. I was the first woman to be hired in the Sales Department, in a traditionally male oriented product (military weapons).

• Received my Senior Army Aviator Wings for continued service in Army Aviation

• Highlighted GE’s capabilities among high level military and government management

• Brought all of GE’s Special Operations work under one person, giving it continuity, improved resource management and more success, fielded several programs for GE’s equipment into the Special Operations community, including weapons systems in aircraft, mission rehearsal and training simulators.

• Maintained all current contracts and moved new programs forward.

• Chosen as one of the 5000 Most Notable Women in the World for 1990

• Chosen as one of the 2000 Most Notable American Women and Awarded the Distinguished Leadership Award for 1988

• Awarded the Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal for my work with the US Army Reserves

• Obtained several military contracts for my client companies which additionally gave the military increased capabilities to complete their mission, for such clients as GE Armament Division, GE Aerospace Division, Rockwell International and TEAC Flight Recorders. Several of these contracts were new production lines that increased the company’s market share in their industry, put them into a position of years of follow on sales and contracts.

• PADI qualified Open Water Scuba Diver

• Completed all company and FAA required operational tests and aviation check rides successfully.

• Awarded the National Defense Service Ribbon

• Qualified as a Professional Association of Diving Instructors (PADI) Advanced Open Water and Rescue Scuba Diver

• Promoted to the rank of Major (Field Grade Military Officer)

• One of nine women inducted into the WV Women’s Hall of Fame by the WV Women’s Commission (the youngest woman ever inducted)

• Awarded the WV Service Ribbon

• Scored a 290 out of a possible 300 on the Army Physical Fitness test

• Awarded my 3rd Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal

• With my staff’s work & direction, the Battalion completed its first Pre-Special Forces Training Course and completed plans to obtain several other training courses previously held at other locations.

• Authored and published several articles for the Women’s Military Memorial Foundation, obtaining local financial support for the Memorial.

• Awarded the Presidential Sports Award for cross-country Skiing.

• With the assistance of my staff, the Battalion grew from a Military Academy into a fully functional Regional Training Institute.

• Completed a 286 out of 300 on the Army Physical Fitness Test

• Ran the Army 10 miler Road Race in Washington, DC

• Awarded the Presidential Sports Award for Cross Training and Sports and Fitness

• Completed a Training Tour with the 86th Aviation Battalion at Camp Zama, Japan

• Selected to be the State Representative for the Women’s Military Memorial Foundation in Washington, DC

• Received several recommendations for inclusion into the Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Services, two of which came from Senators Byrd and Rockefeller.

• Went over 14 years of Incident and Accident Free Aviation Service and over 3000 hours of flight time.

• Chosen as one of the Most Admired Women of the Decade

• Chosen as Who’s Who of Professional & Business Women for 1993

• Chosen as Woman of the Year for 1992

• Awarded the Armed Forces Reserve Medal

• Awarded my 2nd Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal

• Awarded the Overseas Training Ribbon

• Chosen as one of the Most Admired Women in West Virginia for 1991

• Completed all annual aviation flight requirements; written, oral and flight evaluations.

• I totally revamped the units awards system, which was non-existent when I arrived.

• Deployed the units aircraft and the maintenance section to the National Training Center and Operation Gallant Eagle.

• Successfully completed several major inspections (FORSCOM ARMS, COMET, AGI, MAIT and ARTEP)

• Awarded the Meritorious Service Medal

• Awarded the Army Commendation Medal for service as a platoon leader because my platoon reduced its work orders by 80% without reducing its quality of work and as OLR Project Officer my section completed over 1100 modifications to aircraft, with 454 being 02 priority.

• Awarded the Army Achievement Medal for a successful Blackhawk Fielding to US Forces in Korea.

• Awarded the Overseas Service Ribbon

• Trained a team that had no experience on the Blackhawk and we as a team successfully brought in 100 new aircraft into country, plus issued them to US Army Aviation units. This team unloaded, put together, made serviceable all the aircraft, so I could test fly and issue it to the receiving unit. We did all this in record time and with no mishaps

• Made Pilot in Command for operational flights and test flights.

• Fired Competitively in the 18th Airborne Corps Commanders Cup w/ .38 cal, .45 cal, M-16 and M-60.

• Awarded the highest women’s score in the 18th Airborne Corps Junior Officer Competition

• Fielded the first UH-60’s to Ft. Bragg in the medical evacuation configuration.

• Awarded the coveted Sikorsky Helicopter Rescue Award for saving a life using a UH-60 Blackhawk

• Completed hundreds of evacuations both on Ft. Bragg and off with civilian transports and emergencies.

• Chosen for a National Leadership Award by the National Republican Party in 2007


Memberships:

• ARMY AVIATION ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA, CT, PRESENT MEMBER, ATTENDED MEETINGS/CONFERENCES AT NATIONAL LEVEL

• AMERICAN DEFENSE PREPAREDNESS ASSOCIATION, DC, PAST MEMBER, ATTENDED MEETINGS/CONFERENCES/COMPLETED PAPERS AT NATIONAL LEVEL

• MARINE CORPS LEAGUE, VA, PAST MEMBER, ATTENDED MEETINGS/CONFERENCES

• MARINE CORPS AVIATION ASSOCIATION, VA, PAST MEMBER, ATTENDED MEETINGS/CONFERENCES

• AMERICAN HELICOPTER SOCIETY, VA, PAST MEMBER, ATTENDED MEETINGS/CONFERENCES AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL

• SPECIAL FORCES ASSOCIATION, PAST MEMBER, ATTENDED LOCAL AND NATIONAL LEVEL MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES

• WOMEN’S MILITARY MEMORIAL FOUNDATION, DC, CHARTER MEMBER, PAST STATE REPRESENTATIVE, RAISED FUNDING & AWARENESS

• US TROTTING ASSOCIATION, OH, PRESENT MEMBER, OWNER/BREEDER OF STANDARDBREDS

• US EQUESTRIAN TEAM, NJ, PRESENT SUPPORTING MEMBER

• US EQUESTRIAN FEDERATION, PAST MEMBER
US Army US Army Reserve US Army National Guard US Property and Fiscal Office Regional Training Institute 146th Medical Co (Air Ambulance) Army Aviation Support Facility 103rd Corps Support Command 1/222 Aviation Regiment 86th Air Traffic Control Battalion / Supervisory Auditor, Battalion Executive Officer, Aeromedical Evacuation Pilot, Section Leader, Public Affairs Officer, Awards Officer, Helicopter Pilot, Aviation Readiness Officer, Company Commander, Aviation Section Leader, Platoon Leader, Unit Aircraft Maintenance Officer, UH-60 Pilot and Test Pilot, Tech Supply Officer, Pilot in Command, Assistant Maintenance Officer, Blackhawk Fielding Officer, OLR Project Officer, UH-1H pilot, Assistant Operations Officer
1980 - 2003
23 years as a military officer/helicopter test pilot. Duty Stations Included Ft. Eustis, VA, Ft. Bragg, NC, Ft. Rucker, AL, Republic of Korea, Ft. Campbell, KY, Japan, Vermont Army National Guard, US Army Reserves at Ft. Des Moines, IA, West Virginia Army National Guard


Duties & Assignments
•Responsible for the auditing for all Air Force and Army National Guard units within the state of West Virginia.
•Responsible for a flight crews up to over 1000 personnel in a Training Battalion, responsible for their safety, training, education, health, welfare and mission accomplishment.
•For evaluating internal controls, training, administration, operations and logistical operations within unit at all levels.
•To perform quick reaction audit and evaluations to help units find problems and their solutions
•Second in Command of a Training Battalion, responsible for the direction, supervision, coordination of the Battalion Staff. Responsible for implementing the administrative, operational, logistical plan for the Battalion.
•Was acting Commander in the absence of the Battalion Commander.
•Aeromedical Evacuation Pilot responsible for all aircraft operations, medical evacuations in the Corps area in combat and throughout the state in peacetime.
•Area Support Medevac Section Leader for 11 Warrant Officers and 14 Enlisted personnel.
•As Public Affairs Officer, responsible for relations with other government, civilian agencies, media and private citizens.
•As Awards Officer responsible for the individual and unit recognition for a job well done. Acknowledgment of individual and unit service to its country and state.
•Aircraft Maintenance Officer and Test Pilot responsible for the operational readiness (scheduled and unscheduled maintenance) for 15 UH-60 Blackhawks. Platoon Leader for 31 maintenance personnel.
•Responsible for the work flow of several allied shops within the maintenance platoon and a tech supply section worth several millions of dollars.
• Aircraft Maintenance Officer responsible for the supervision of maintenance support and recovery service to a fleet of over 330 Army aircraft in the ROK. Services Shops Platoon Leader with 96 military and Korean employees.
•Blackhawk Fielding Officer responsible for the fielding and test flying of the 100 helicopters that arrived in the Republic of Korea for the US Forces.
•Myself and a team of 10 soldiers met the C-5A every two weeks and unloaded, assembled, test flew and issued to the receiving unit. At the same time, the retrograde UH-1H’s were broke down and loaded for return to the US.
•Aeromedical Evacuation Pilot in a Rapid Deployment Force Unit, the 18th Airborne Corps, which also completed the MAST Program (Military Assistance to Safety and Traffic) in which we did hundreds of civilian medical evacuations all over the east coast.
• Platoon Leader of 24 Maintenance Personnel, responsible for all scheduled & unscheduled maintenance of 6 UH-60 Blackhawk Helicopters in the Medical Evacuation configuration.
• UH-60 Pilot and Test Pilot responsible for all flight operations, aircraft and personnel on board.

Other Education:
CIVILIAN FORMAL EDUCATION
Master Of Arts In Education And Equine Science And Management (candidate)
Salem-Teikyo University, Salem, WV (attended 1994 - 1998)
Equine Reproductive Management & Artificial Insemination
Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO, (completed 1997)
Techniques For Handling & Utilizing Transported Cooled & Frozen Equine Spermatozoa, 1997
Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO., (completed 1997)
Equine Breaking & Training Course
Oklahoma Horseshoeing School, Oklahoma City, OK, (completed 1997)
Equine Horseshoeing And Farrier Short Course
Oklahoma Horseshoeing School, Oklahoma City, OK., (completed 1997)
Equine Sports Massage Therapy Certification Course
Equi-Touch Systems, Loveland, CO, (completed 1997)
Decision Making In National Security Policy
American University, Washington, DC (completed 1988)
Masters Of Science In Aviation Management (candidate)
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, FL (attended 1983)
Bachelor Of Science In Education, ROTC & Art
West Virginia State College, Institute, WV (graduated cum laude 1980)
PADI Qualified Open Water, Advanced Open Water & Rescue Scuba Diver, completed 1991
FAA Rotary Wing Commercial Pilot W/ Instrument Rating, received license in 1981

GE AEROSPACE CORPORATE TRAINING COURSES
Aerospace Marketing & Business Development, 1988
Effective Written Communications Course, 1986
Effective Presentation Skills Course, 1986
Interpersonal Communications Course, 1985

MILITARY SCHOOLS AND TRAINING COURSES
USARNG Intermediate Auditing & Internal Review Course, Ft. Fisher, NC., 1997
US Army Command & General Staff College, Ft. Leavenworth, KS., 1996
USARNG Battle Focused Instructor Training Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1996
USARNG Small Group Leadership Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1996
USARNG Total Quality Management Facilitator’s Course, Camp Frettard, MD., 1996
USARNG Auditing & Internal Review Basic Course, Ft. Fisher, NC., 1995
US Army Aeromedical Evacuation Officers Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1994
US Army Medical Service Corps Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Sam Houston, TX., 1994
USARNG Pre-Command Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1993
USARNG Uh-1h Instrument Flight Refresher Course, Ft. Indiantown Gap, PA., 1992
USARNG Aviation Mishap Prevention Course, Ft, Indiantown Gap, PA., 1992
US Army Aviation Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1991
US Army Aviation Water Survival Course, Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, South Pacific, 1991
US Army UH-1H Helicopter Refresher Flight Training, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1986
US Army Battalion Training Management System, Ft. Bragg, NC., 1982
US Army Test Pilot Course (AMOC II), Ft. Eustis, VA., 1982
US Army Aviation Maintenance Officers Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1981
US Army Advanced Qualification For Uh-60 Blackhawk, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1981
US Army Marine Terminal Operations Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1980
US Army Transportation Officers Basic Course, Ft. Eustis, Va., 1980
PanAm Airlines Kwajalein Atoll Marshall Islands South Pacific / Commercial Pilot
1991 - 1992
•Government Contract Helicopter Pilot in support of the US Army Operations on Kwajalein Atoll. Flight Operations covered over 100 islands with the UH-1H in the Float configuration.

•Responsible for maintaining aircraft currency and proficiency in all flight operations.

•Responsible for the safe and timely delivery of personnel and supplies to various locations in the Atoll.

*Spent all my free time scuba diving, sailing, fishing, riding my bike and laying on the lagoon. Only had 2 flights a day, 4 days a week with one week off each month. Tough life.
GE Aerospace / Marketing Manager and Program Manager, Aviation Weapons and Special Operations Programs
1984 - 1989
Marketing Representative, Airborne Weapons Applications and Army and Special Operations Program Manager, General Electric, Armament Systems Department and Aerospace Division Burlington, Vermont and 1331 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Washington, DC

•Responsible for the development of all Army sales programs and sustaining contracts in the areas of armor, artillery, combat support, infantry, space & technology.

•Sales & Program Manager for all of GE’s special operations & Aviation Programs with the Army, Navy, Air Force & Marines.

•Responsible for nurturing current programs/contracts, pursuing new applications, technology opportunities and contracts for the 17 GE Aerospace divisions covering over 18 billion dollars worth of business.

•Prepared, presented, evaluated government bids and proposals.

•Responsible for the thorough working knowledge of the Pentagon, all military services, the acquisition process, current government contracts, regulations, major military programs, and the specifications of all of GE’s current contracts.

•Prepared/conducted meetings with high level military, officials from the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), all services and other government agencies, such as the FBI, CIA, State Department, DEA, FAA, Congressional Armed Services and Appropriations Committees.

•Responsible for the development of domestic and international sales program for the Aircraft Weapons Systems Division of GE.

•Responsible for the management of the Research and Development budget, required the closed involvement with all four military services, government agencies, worldwide airframe manufactures and foreign militaries.

•Required presentations to large audiences, prepared/; conducted meetings with high level military, government officials and US Congress.

•Required detailed knowledge of foreign (NATO) and US military acquisition procedures, major military commands such as the OSD, all research and development commands, logistics and material systems commands.
Education

Salem Teikyo University Salem WV
Masters level study in Equine Science and Management, 1998
US Army Command and General Staff College
1996
American University
National Security, 1988
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, Florida
Masters level study in Aviation Management, 1982
West Virginia State College
1980
Chesapeake High School Chesapeake Ohio
1974

http://www.topix.com/forum/county/doddridge-wv/TDD3EQSVN0H8SF61E/p2


Icequeen, are you concerned that your web remarks would incite C to sue you? It looks like there is plenty of evidence so she probably wouldn't get that far, but man, it gets messy if the courts get involved.


When C decided to go after me in the start because I quit, she did not do her homework & I did attempt to warn her. W/ my situation there is way too much at stake for her to attempt a lawsuit against me. I could only beg her to at this rate to do so. She has way too much to lose if this hits a court room. This is why on my blacklist renditions she has changed the "We're going or We should be in court by" line numerous times.

Please don't take that as arrogance or being cocky but I have spent time putting ALOT of evidence together against her basically trying to show her I'm not playing & to inform any naive person that may come her way. NO MORE VICTIMS!

W/ what she put my family thru, the 2 injured horses, the ones she threatened to turn loose, the past adopters she has blamed when she herself misrepresented the horse resulting in almost getting adults & children killed or seriously hurt, for the poor interns that she took to the bar & left them there because she left w/ some guy & the only adult out of the bunch had to drive them back to the farm & Celeita didn't show up till the next morning, & the list goes on.

So I will take every pop shot she has to offer & put the truth out every time whether it was directly found out by me or I had to research it to come from me so I could protect someone that is scared of her. And if this does go to court my evidence is over whelming. Some things I have had to let go until I have more proof on but I can't very well speak out about something I know nothing about. I started this w/ the statement back in May...."I have nothing to hide" so the last thing I would do, is lie like Celeita Kramer, it has been much more effective catching her in her own lies.

photo from her HUGE and PUBLIC fb photo page

caption reads: "my hawk at ft. bragg" :shaking:

Looks like she's been having issues with her business since 2008 for scamming people.

http://fulltiltequines.blogspot.com/

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/second-wind-adoption-program-c139897.html

Celeita Kramer, Executor of Crossed Sabers Stables, SWAP, and what ever other name she chooses for her "business" is a full-blown liar and cheat. She has maniuplated the public into thinking she is a hard-working, honest, front-line player in the "horse industry" when all she is is a con artist. She does not even have her "farm" legally in her name because she cannot get financing! She will not take her ex-husband off the loan because she knows that in order to do so she would need to obtain the financing herself - which we all know is impossible since she's asking for donations every other week to support herself - not for the good of the "animals." If anyone knows first hand how hateful and vindictive this woman can be, it would be me! She will never let anyone that "knows her secrets to success" get the truth out there. She will harrass, intimidate, frighten and threaten anyone that gets in her way. She has crushed many, many people along the way and obviously she is still doing so today. Her website is so deceitful that she has pictures of "Christmases passed @ Crossed Sabers" and they are of 10 - 12 years ago... NO NEW PICTURES AVAILABLE TO SEE... because it's all made up! There was nothing but misery and discouragement and dishonor @ that place and it continues to this day because she continues to deceive. I feel sorry for ANYONE - young or old - that gets mixed up with her. Please research the situation carefully before you spend any time, effort and/or heartache on this organization. Notice there is no longer any information about "the executor" and her resume on line anymore...wonder why?

http://majos-stall.com/swap.html

Less than a year old
.
Sadly this is true. Having just checked the latest IRS Schedule 78 list of charitable (501) organizations in the US...Celeita Kramer's BUSINESS is NOT listed !! That means that she can not issue any form of tax deduction. Note that her paperwork says " Tax deductible to the extent of the Law" well, that means NO. Do folks get away with it?...yes, they have... but IF you get audited watch out because it is YOU who will pay the penalties.

MANY MANY fundraisers she has run to "PAY THE MORTGAGE OF THE FARM" are direct contributions to Celeita Kramer as she is the sole owner of Crossed Sabers Stable. She has no income other than monies received from the business(es) she runs claiming to be non profit though she no longer states that she is 501(c)3[ having claimed that her accountant( the one who died in a motorcycle accident) failed to renew her status...while the truth is that she never had tax exempt /non profit status.] ...it is implied by stating "tax deductible".

While this may not be the worst horse program, it is NOT as it is portrayed on the website!!

Methinks payment is due. :D

as of Aug 16, 2010 there is still no Crossed Sabers or Second Wind listed under the charitable organizations.

http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/

this should be a next step...

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html

She definitely glorifies her accomplishments.

First female Blackhawk pilot is actually "Fielded the first UH-60’s to Ft. Bragg in the medical evacuation configuration."

"Medical Evacuation configuration" is the key term I believe.

her military career, according to her, spanned from 1980 to 2003. how she managed that and run a equine adoption center starting in 1996 surely is a feat.


USARNG Intermediate Auditing & Internal Review Course, Ft. Fisher, NC., 1997
US Army Command & General Staff College, Ft. Leavenworth, KS., 1996
USARNG Battle Focused Instructor Training Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1996
USARNG Small Group Leadership Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1996
USARNG Total Quality Management Facilitator’s Course, Camp Frettard, MD., 1996
USARNG Auditing & Internal Review Basic Course, Ft. Fisher, NC., 1995
US Army Aeromedical Evacuation Officers Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1994
US Army Medical Service Corps Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Sam Houston, TX., 1994
USARNG Pre-Command Course, Camp Dawson, WV., 1993
USARNG Uh-1h Instrument Flight Refresher Course, Ft. Indiantown Gap, PA., 1992
USARNG Aviation Mishap Prevention Course, Ft, Indiantown Gap, PA., 1992
US Army Aviation Officers Advanced Course, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1991
US Army Aviation Water Survival Course, Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, South Pacific, 1991
US Army UH-1H Helicopter Refresher Flight Training, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1986
US Army Battalion Training Management System, Ft. Bragg, NC., 1982
US Army Test Pilot Course (AMOC II), Ft. Eustis, VA., 1982
US Army Aviation Maintenance Officers Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1981
US Army Advanced Qualification For Uh-60 Blackhawk, Ft. Rucker, AL., 1981
US Army Marine Terminal Operations Course, Ft. Eustis, VA., 1980
US Army Transportation Officers Basic Course, Ft. Eustis, Va., 1980

Has anyone seen info on what year she may have won that Sikorsky Rescue Award? I'm following a lead but need to narrow it down.

The Mountain State Horse School
Second Wind Adoption Program, Inc
The Crossed Sabers International Life School, Inc.

all hers.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A1C9R7XDI20QQW/ref=cm_cr_dp_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

Has anyone seen info on what year she may have one that Sikorsky Rescue Award? I'm following a lead but need to narrow it down.

I hit a dead end on that. will check more.

this should be a next step...

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html

Apparently a few people dropped a dime on her to the IRS but nothing I could find if anything was done about it.
Some are afraid to say anything publicly in fear that she will yank their horses back. She has an insane 'adoption contract' on her site.
I have worked with legitimate rescues in the past and she is no rescue. She is a dealer that poses as one. So many things on her site alone have sent up red flags for me.

She is clearly NOT an adoption site. Especially when she charges $10k for a used horse.

supposedly...

As of July 25th 2009 she is under investigation by the IRS.

Maybe her accomplishments would be more believable if she had the Dos Equis Most Interesting Woman in the World award on her resume:p

wonder when she will find this. she seems like the type to google herself constantly

wonder when she will find this. she seems like the type to google herself constantly

OMG she is going to black list us!!!:eek::eek::laughing:

maybe her accomplishments would be more believable if she had the dos equis most interesting woman in the world award on her resume:p

win!

OMG she is going to black list us!!!:eek::eek::laughing:


my momma warned me i'd git in trouble hangin wit fast women... i shoudda listened

any information you want to share?

Yeah, let Google be your friend, it'll tell you all you need to know:laughing:

This woman tried to take some horses from a friend of mine. She got the humane society involved and was trying to get them to confiscate them, claiming they were abused.

Just sent this to a good friend (WO-5, retired) who flew Blackhawk for the USA for decades:

"Who was the first women to fly a Blackhawk helicopter?

Part of a possible "stolen valor" look into operation.

Thanks,"

(Probably should have clarified "first USA female" to fly it. Oh well, I'll clarify when he answers.

how the FUCK did I miss this shit?


Bev - I can see if the local vets around here have any input on this person. I am sure they have gotten info or were contacted by this asshat.

Just sent this to a good friend (WO-5, retired) who flew Blackhawk for the USA for decades:

"Who was the first women to fly a Blackhawk helicopter?

Part of a possible "stolen valor" look into operation.

Thanks,"

(Probably should have clarified "first USA female" to fly it. Oh well, I'll clarify when he answers.

You have to read the wording. She claims to be the first female black hawk pilot. Then on another site adds the "with medical configuration" or something to that effect.

This woman tried to take some horses from a friend of mine. She got the humane society involved and was trying to get them to confiscate them, claiming they were abused.

attempted grand theft.

attempted grand theft.It isn't attempted grand theft when you do it this way. It would be false reporting which isn't really a crime. It isn't any different than someone calling the cops saying you are beating your kids when you really aren't.

I would hope that this crackheaded woman would black list me. There is no way in hell I would ever do any kind of business with her, her farm, that 'rescue' or anyone that would do any dealings with her.

Some of those pics on her site look 'lifted.' I've seen them somewhere else, I just can't place it. I used to live in Loudoun County where there's lot of horse people and sometimes ended up at events there.

Some of those pics on her site look 'lifted.' I've seen them somewhere else, I just can't place it. I used to live in Loudoun County where there's lot of horse people and sometimes ended up at events there.

The whole fucking site looks like a fucking grenade went off in frontpage extensions :lmao:

:shaking:

I, too, served 23 years in the US Army Aviation Branch (overlapped 21 of the same years as Celeita Kramer). I am also a graduate of the Aviation Maintenance Officer Course/Maintenance Manager-Maintenance Test Pilot Course at Ft. Eustis, VA. I taught portions of the class at Eustis prior to the course being relocated to Ft. Rucker. (...wanted to establish my credibility here as a first-time contributer).

She claims to hold a Multi-Engine, Commercial pilot's license. This just ain't so. She is not listed on the FAA Registry at Oklahoma City (where every pilot, mechanic, dispatcher and other FAA designated registrations are located). She might have had these credentials in the past, but she no longer has the "flight privelages" of her claim. Period.

Having claimed 23 years of service would lend credence that she is an honorably retired soldier and listed on the Army Knowledge Online personnel registry. I am. Thousands of my friends (Active, Retired, Guard, Reserve...even Civil Servants) are listed on this directory. Well.....she's not listed....anywhere. Someone could always request her DD Form 214 on a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. The product returned from the US Army Human Resource Command would be the consummate, end-all response to all the questions and comments on these four pages regarding her military career. For those that don't know about DD 214s, this is sort of an amended military resume' of your experience....a report card (w/o grades) of your service. It would substantiate her claim.....or show her to be a fraud. Period. No ambiguity to it. Drop a FOIA for her DD 214 and check the results! Her 214 will list all the approved DOD/US Army courses she attended over her career. My guess is that the FOIA returned 214 will show she's tellin' a fish story with all those listed courses. ....any questions, feel free to contact me.

did you do a FOIA on being 14 months late to the game?



sorry new guy. had to.

http://www.foia.gov/index.html

Holy old thread..

Lots of "dirt" here http://fuglyblog.com/2010/11/21/think-youre-a-great-rescue-prove-it/