BarrelRoll
09-04-2010, 10:16 PM
I've started running the Pony Express trail in Nevada and figured it would be right up the expedition people's alley. So far I've run about 150 miles total of the trail in Eastern Nevada from the Dry creek sation to 10 miles west of the Nevada/ Utah border minus about 10 miles in Eureka county where I got lost coming out after dark. Most of the trail has been easy to follow and pretty mild. I'll share some of the things I've learned about running the trail.
For the most part I've run the trail from West to East and here's some of what I've found
I've tried to run the trail west of Dry creek and haven't had much luck though I need to spend a whole day in the the Austin Area. I went in at the sign for Hickson Petrogliphs and followed the 2 track before you get to the acutal Hickson area and found the trail and ran it east maybe 1-2 miles before it became a narrow up hill v that I wasn't so sure I wanted to take my pickup though it and I knew it would become a horse/ foot trail at some point. Trying to run it west from there didn't get me very far, I found 1 sign and then it turned into a really overgrown trail and I lost it again.
At Dry Creek (all most due north of the center of the state about 40-50 miles east of Austin NV) the trail turned into a foot and horse trail heading west.
Runing from Dry Creek east the trail is followable and I've run up and Over pony express pass though at night lost the trail going into Dimond Valley and ended up coming out on 50. Pony Express pass is overgorwn and you will be getting some scratches, my full size fit through it though. I'll go back in the day and find the part that connects pony express pass to hwy 278. Running from 278 across dimond valley is really flat and uneventful. Telegraph pass is a fun not super challanging but not flat climb and is also really taight like Pony Express pass. To find Telegraph pass the Thompson Ranch is on your left and it's the only right after the ranch, it looks like you are going through their ranch junk pile but it's actually the trail. Coming off of Telegraph pass it is a little hard to find the right trail to come out on to 892, you can see the trail all the way across the valley. If you loose the main trail and come out of 892 there is a wooden sign marker on 892 pointing you across the valley.
Runing the trail through Newark Valley it is easy to fllow the trail and there is a bit of silt but it's not truck swallowing bad. Going up and over Overland pass is a nice graded road and my dog enjoyed a stop at Ruby Lake Resivor for a swim. I would bypass the trail from where it hits 3 and head south on 3 till you see the sign for Blue Jay Ranch, head north there and work your way back to the trail. There is a bad, truck swallowing silt bed that I wasn't sure I'd make it though. If you do try the silt beds and the exact trail route there are a couple bypasses which help.
From Ruby Valley to 93 the trail is really well marked and pretty much 2wd graded roads and 2-tracks besides a couple non turck swallowing silt beds. The trail comes out at 93 and there is a rest area with some information boards about the trail.
The next 13 miles of the trail are graded dirt roads any car could make it through. From there the trail goes over rock springs pass the highest pass on the trail, it is a little rough but not bad.
On the Eastern end of Nevada about 10 miles from the Utah Border you hit the Goshute Indian Reservation, the trail runs right into a fence with a sign say No Tresspassing Indian Land, I tried to go up a bit and get on 34 (about a mile up the fence and the trail adventually runs back into 34) to run across the reservation but it has the same sign and I figured it wasn't worth getting scalped. I'm not sure if it was legal to run on the county road or not so I decided it wasn't worth risking it and to head home. I'd like to get the Utah map and try and run some parts in Utah. By the time I hit the reservation it was time to head into Ely for some dinner anyways.
It also looks like in theory you could run the trail in Western NV from Dayton NV to Sand mountain though I'm not sure how much private land you would have to deal with. On the map it also looks like a lot of Alkali flats. From Sand mountain the trail turns into Hwy 50 till you get closer to Austin NV where it turns back into a trail, I'll try this portion of the trail at some point as well.
For the most part it's a pretty easy trail and I have been running most of it in my 2500HD that's stock besides some 33" mud terrains. I think it could all be run a stock 4x4 though pay attention to the silt beds and I wouldn't want to run them when they are wet. In the flats there are some sility spots, nothing real bad besides the 1 spot in Ruby valley. At the first sign of silt I pop my truck in to 4 hi just in case. I wouldn't want to pull a trailer through some of the passes though the rest of the trail would probably be doable with a small trail trailer.
The Bench Mark Atlas for Nevada shows the trail and is pretty accurate/ makes it pretty easy. The trail is marked to some degree and lots of the cross roads have wooden signs with arrows as to where the trail goes, other spots have ramdom metal t-posts, Concrete monuments with Poney Express Trail engraved, old wodden sign posts with the signs removed, brown or faded to orange plastic markers with Pony Express stickers and from Ruby lake East the trail has brown BLM markers and it's trail XP.
Fuel can and will be an issue for some people. Today I fueld up in Eureaka, went up to Newark Valley to catch the trail, ran 100 miles on the trail and looped back to 93, I was at about 250 miles on the odometer by the time I got to Ely NV for fuel, 1 of the bars on 93 does have a gas pump, no clue if they actually have gas and I'm guessing it's in the $4+ a gallon range. Otherwise plan on 24 hour fuel in Austin, Eureka, and Ely for the eastern part of the state. You aren't going to find a whole lot of water along the trail and most of it is cow water, I'm sure you could boil it and not die but be prepared with some extra, temps can hit 90-100* during the day and it's all ready dropped into the 30's at night here in Eureka and it's only the begining of September. Another thing to think about is the sun, if you are trying to run the trail from east to west about 4pm it starts to become real hard to see and it gets dark by 8pm to the point you would be setting up camp in the dark.
The eastern half of Nevada would be a fun trail to run in 2 days. The 100 miles I did today from Newark Valley to the Reservation took me about 6 hours. I was running at about as fast a pace as a stock 2500HD could run and not stopping any where but closed gates. If anyone wants to run it I might be convinced to make another run in the next month or 2 before the snow comes/ it gets too cold to camp.
For the most part I've run the trail from West to East and here's some of what I've found
I've tried to run the trail west of Dry creek and haven't had much luck though I need to spend a whole day in the the Austin Area. I went in at the sign for Hickson Petrogliphs and followed the 2 track before you get to the acutal Hickson area and found the trail and ran it east maybe 1-2 miles before it became a narrow up hill v that I wasn't so sure I wanted to take my pickup though it and I knew it would become a horse/ foot trail at some point. Trying to run it west from there didn't get me very far, I found 1 sign and then it turned into a really overgrown trail and I lost it again.
At Dry Creek (all most due north of the center of the state about 40-50 miles east of Austin NV) the trail turned into a foot and horse trail heading west.
Runing from Dry Creek east the trail is followable and I've run up and Over pony express pass though at night lost the trail going into Dimond Valley and ended up coming out on 50. Pony Express pass is overgorwn and you will be getting some scratches, my full size fit through it though. I'll go back in the day and find the part that connects pony express pass to hwy 278. Running from 278 across dimond valley is really flat and uneventful. Telegraph pass is a fun not super challanging but not flat climb and is also really taight like Pony Express pass. To find Telegraph pass the Thompson Ranch is on your left and it's the only right after the ranch, it looks like you are going through their ranch junk pile but it's actually the trail. Coming off of Telegraph pass it is a little hard to find the right trail to come out on to 892, you can see the trail all the way across the valley. If you loose the main trail and come out of 892 there is a wooden sign marker on 892 pointing you across the valley.
Runing the trail through Newark Valley it is easy to fllow the trail and there is a bit of silt but it's not truck swallowing bad. Going up and over Overland pass is a nice graded road and my dog enjoyed a stop at Ruby Lake Resivor for a swim. I would bypass the trail from where it hits 3 and head south on 3 till you see the sign for Blue Jay Ranch, head north there and work your way back to the trail. There is a bad, truck swallowing silt bed that I wasn't sure I'd make it though. If you do try the silt beds and the exact trail route there are a couple bypasses which help.
From Ruby Valley to 93 the trail is really well marked and pretty much 2wd graded roads and 2-tracks besides a couple non turck swallowing silt beds. The trail comes out at 93 and there is a rest area with some information boards about the trail.
The next 13 miles of the trail are graded dirt roads any car could make it through. From there the trail goes over rock springs pass the highest pass on the trail, it is a little rough but not bad.
On the Eastern end of Nevada about 10 miles from the Utah Border you hit the Goshute Indian Reservation, the trail runs right into a fence with a sign say No Tresspassing Indian Land, I tried to go up a bit and get on 34 (about a mile up the fence and the trail adventually runs back into 34) to run across the reservation but it has the same sign and I figured it wasn't worth getting scalped. I'm not sure if it was legal to run on the county road or not so I decided it wasn't worth risking it and to head home. I'd like to get the Utah map and try and run some parts in Utah. By the time I hit the reservation it was time to head into Ely for some dinner anyways.
It also looks like in theory you could run the trail in Western NV from Dayton NV to Sand mountain though I'm not sure how much private land you would have to deal with. On the map it also looks like a lot of Alkali flats. From Sand mountain the trail turns into Hwy 50 till you get closer to Austin NV where it turns back into a trail, I'll try this portion of the trail at some point as well.
For the most part it's a pretty easy trail and I have been running most of it in my 2500HD that's stock besides some 33" mud terrains. I think it could all be run a stock 4x4 though pay attention to the silt beds and I wouldn't want to run them when they are wet. In the flats there are some sility spots, nothing real bad besides the 1 spot in Ruby valley. At the first sign of silt I pop my truck in to 4 hi just in case. I wouldn't want to pull a trailer through some of the passes though the rest of the trail would probably be doable with a small trail trailer.
The Bench Mark Atlas for Nevada shows the trail and is pretty accurate/ makes it pretty easy. The trail is marked to some degree and lots of the cross roads have wooden signs with arrows as to where the trail goes, other spots have ramdom metal t-posts, Concrete monuments with Poney Express Trail engraved, old wodden sign posts with the signs removed, brown or faded to orange plastic markers with Pony Express stickers and from Ruby lake East the trail has brown BLM markers and it's trail XP.
Fuel can and will be an issue for some people. Today I fueld up in Eureaka, went up to Newark Valley to catch the trail, ran 100 miles on the trail and looped back to 93, I was at about 250 miles on the odometer by the time I got to Ely NV for fuel, 1 of the bars on 93 does have a gas pump, no clue if they actually have gas and I'm guessing it's in the $4+ a gallon range. Otherwise plan on 24 hour fuel in Austin, Eureka, and Ely for the eastern part of the state. You aren't going to find a whole lot of water along the trail and most of it is cow water, I'm sure you could boil it and not die but be prepared with some extra, temps can hit 90-100* during the day and it's all ready dropped into the 30's at night here in Eureka and it's only the begining of September. Another thing to think about is the sun, if you are trying to run the trail from east to west about 4pm it starts to become real hard to see and it gets dark by 8pm to the point you would be setting up camp in the dark.
The eastern half of Nevada would be a fun trail to run in 2 days. The 100 miles I did today from Newark Valley to the Reservation took me about 6 hours. I was running at about as fast a pace as a stock 2500HD could run and not stopping any where but closed gates. If anyone wants to run it I might be convinced to make another run in the next month or 2 before the snow comes/ it gets too cold to camp.