Does anyone have any pics of a 10.25 shaved for clearance? If so I would really appreciate it.

Wes

Check this out (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/search.php?action=showresults&searchid=310724&sortby=&sortorder=)

Slim, I didn't see any pics there. Thank tho:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Gozuki
Slim, I didn't see any pics there. Thank tho:rolleyes:

Thanx for the link to a search that shows no pictures jackass.

Hey Slim your a stupid fuck. Nice job on padding your post count.:flipoff2:

OK so what I fucked up ..I was just trying to help.. I can see you all helped alot.

check out coloradok5.com I believe they have a tech article with decent pics.

Bwahahaha :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :smokin:




you got smacked by a newbie

The point is he shoulda searched. What do you expect to see in a picture of a shaved 10.25 that's gonna be any different than any other axle :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Gozuki
Slim, I didn't see any pics there. Thank tho:rolleyes:

Originally posted by broncorob
The point is he shoulda searched. What do you expect to see in a picture of a shaved 10.25 that's gonna be any different than any other axle :rolleyes:



Negative ... everyone KNOWS what a shaved axle looks like. Duh ... so if any axle would do, he wouldn't have posted. I would personally like to see a shaved 10.25, too. I've seen shaved everything else. So why would I want to see them again? The shape of a 10.25 makes it somewhat unique among axles, so I want to see one. I am also interrested in backwards q-jets right now. If you showed me a pick of a backwards Motorcraft 2100, it wouldn't help me.

My only point is this: Slim, you're an asshole. You've been an asshole to me before, and many others on this board. I suspect you know that you're an asshole, so there should be no problem with me telling you this.

Also, next time you search to post about how someone else should search, make sure you do something mroe than type in some half-ass search querry before you pretend your shit doesn't stink. You failed to do anything this time other than prove that you're an asshole that doesn't know what he's talking about. Nothing pisses me off more than assholes without a clue. I am an asshole, too. But at least I have a clue. (Sometimes ... :))

Oh ... and just to clarify, the shaving article on CK5 is a 14-bolt. We're looking for pics of Ford Sterling 10.25" rear axles. (1.5", 35-spline shafts, STOCK.) In case Slim doesn't know what one looks like, here is a pic:

http://www.coloradok5.com/techpics/ford1025in.jpg

J. J.

Originally posted by broncorob
The point is he shoulda searched. What do you expect to see in a picture of a shaved 10.25 that's gonna be any different than any other axle :rolleyes:

Have you ever seen a sterling 10.25 rear end? It looks a little different than a d60 or 44. Thanx though. Yes I did search I didn't find any pictures of a shaved 10.25. Thanx once again though. So i'm guessing no one runs this axle and likes ground clearance? Thats what I was thinking j.j thanx bro. And you forgot it's also full floater.

:flipoff2:

Wes

Originally posted by patooyee


Negative ... everyone KNOWS what a shaved axle looks like. Duh ... so if any axle would do, he wouldn't have posted. I would personally like to see a shaved 10.25, too. I've seen shaved everything else. So why would I want to see them again? The shape of a 10.25 makes it somewhat unique among axles, so I want to see one. I am also interrested in backwards q-jets right now. If you showed me a pick of a backwards Motorcraft 2100, it wouldn't help me.

My only point is this: Slim, you're an asshole. You've been an asshole to me before, and many others on this board. I suspect you know that you're an asshole, so there should be no problem with me telling you this.

Also, next time you search to post about how someone else should search, make sure you do something mroe than type in some half-ass search querry before you pretend your shit doesn't stink. You failed to do anything this time other than prove that you're an asshole that doesn't know what he's talking about. Nothing pisses me off more than assholes without a clue. I am an asshole, too. But at least I have a clue. (Sometimes ... :))

Oh ... and just to clarify, the shaving article on CK5 is a 14-bolt. We're looking for pics of Ford Sterling 10.25" rear axles. (1.5", 35-spline shafts, STOCK.) In case Slim doesn't know what one looks like, here is a pic:

http://www.coloradok5.com/techpics/ford1025in.jpg

J. J.


Sorry man but your the one that sounds like a Ass hole....:eek: When was the last time Slim was an A hole to you ,I would like to see it ( that is if you have any thing to back up what you are saying) So what he Screwed up. Hell, I thought he was talking about A 14 bolt at first also:p . You can say What you want but your post was also just as help full as Slims & Freds was. as is mine:flipoff2:

Rocktop:Maybe this slim dude wasn't an asshole on the internet. Maybe they met in person or talked on the phone. Kind of hard to have proof of that. Yea, anyone have the fawking picture I am looking for? Please?

Wes

Originally posted by rocktop


Hell, I thought he was talking about A 14 bolt at first also

when was the last time you saw a 14 bolt with a ten and a quarter inch ring gear? seems to me they are 10.5, or atleast the good ff ones. otherwise it's 9.5 semi-floater. just thought maybe a few facts might help....

-Scott

I thought it was 14 FF at first also, thats why I put the link up there.. So Its a sterling 10.25 oops!

And for patooyee you must have the wrong slim!

Originally posted by 1248bullitt
Rocktop:Maybe this slim dude wasn't an asshole on the internet. Maybe they met in person or talked on the phone. Kind of hard to have proof of that. Yea, anyone have the fawking picture I am looking for? Please?

Wes
I have Wheeled with Slim Many times and know him Quite well. He is not the type of person that comes acoss as a A Hole. He will be the person that will stay out till midnight helping you get your rig un stuck trust me I know:p And go out of his way to help you with something.

Originally posted by rocktop
Sorry man but your the one that sounds like a Ass hole....:eek:

Yes ... I am an asshole. I thought I already covered that.

Originally posted by rocktop
When was the last time Slim was an A hole to you ,I would like to see it ( that is if you have any thing to back up what you are saying) So what he Screwed up.

I did a search for the time that Slim and I got into it but it's gone now. That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist though. He might have just deleted it. Or I could be confusing him with someone else. If so, I apologize.

HOWEVER, that still doesn't change the fact that he was being an asshole in this post and that he linked to a search that he didn't even look through himself.

Originally posted by rocktop
Hell, I thought he was talking about A 14 bolt at first also:p . You can say What you want but your post was also just as help full as Slims & Freds was. as is mine:flipoff2:

Now this proves that you are ALSO clueless. See, I thought that it was originally specified that he wanted pics of an axle with a ring gear of 10.25" diameter. And 14-bolts come in either 9.5" or 10.5". So admitting that you thought he was speaking of a 14-bolt proves that you HAVE NO CLUE! That's OK though because at least you're not an asshole, too. Hell, I don't have a clue a lot of the time. (Read Paul Gagnon's post about torsion bars.)

You're right about not helping the post though. (Although the pic might have helped out some of the clueless folks who don't know what Sterling axles look like.) So let's just leave it at: Slim is an asshole without a clue, I am an asshole, and you are just without a clue. :flipoff2:

J. J.

That being said, I don't think anyone has any pics of a shaved 10.25. I have only ever even seen 1 rig with a 10.25 under it and it wasn't shaved. If I ever have problems with my 14-bolt shafts, I may go to a 10.25, in which case I would shave it. That, or I'll just get alloy shafts. :) Why Sterling axles aren't more popular in the swapping world, I don't know. I just think that people don't know much about them. They also come in weaker semi-floating versions with smaller shafts, and the same housing, and also smaller version in general with smaller ring gears and smaller shafts, and still the same housing, so I think a lot of people are afraid to go pick one up because they're afraid they'll get screwed and get one of the small versions. (Course, just pull a shaft and luck is not part of the equation, but it ihas been my experience that many folks are too lazy to do that.)

J. J.

Why Sterling axles aren't more popular in the swapping world, I don't know.

look up prices on gears and lockers for the Sterling axles, then it all becomes clear... :D

Originally posted by Sundowner


look up prices on gears and lockers for the Sterling axles, then it all becomes clear... :D

Look at prices to make a non ff axle full float then add 35spline 1.5" shafts. I think that might even it out a little. :flipoff2:

Wes

how big are the axles on a 10.25 inch?

Originally posted by peeJ
how big are the axles on a 10.25 inch?

Are you serious?

no.... i'm just bored and thought just post for the hell of it:rolleyes: :flipoff: how hard is it to type in a few numbers?

Originally posted by patooyee
1.5", 35-spline shafts, STOCK.

Not hard at all to type in numbers. How hard is it to read the entire post???? :flipoff:

Geez! How many dunces are we going to get in a single thread?!?!?!?

J. J.

oh shizznet, my bad, :shaking: LoL, sorry:(

Originally posted by patooyee


Not hard at all to type in numbers. How hard is it to read the entire post???? :flipoff:

Geez! How many dunces are we going to get in a single thread?!?!?!?

J. J.

Your right you are a Ass Hole but at least you know it:D

I just did a search on the ford board. I didn't see a width for this axle, other than "the same as 9" or 8.8" " which isn't very specific.

Anyway, dang those gears are HUGE! it made a Dana44 look like a toy. After my search I saw a few people mention shaving a 10.25 and or the new 10.5, but no pictures.

I drive a superduty on occasion and that diff cover caught my attention. I joked with my brother (owner) about taking it from him. :D

2 pages and no pics yet? I know someone is hiding out there with what we are looking for....

Wes

Originally posted by rocktop


Your right you are a Ass Hole but at least you know it:D

Yes ... and I would also like to clarify one more thing ... in my last post, I posted a ":flipoff: " at the end when I intended to post a ":flipoff2: " at the end. I didn't want you to think I was REALLY mad. :D

J. J.

BTW, a LONG, LONG time ago in Four Wheeler mag there was a reader's ride with a shaved Sterling.

J. J.

Do you know the year? I might have it.

Wes

It was at least 2 years ago and it was one of the ugly reader's rides specials. It was a grey/green shitty old CJ5.

J. J.

I don't think it is possible to shave them like people shave D60's Supposedly the 10.5 and 10.25 have the same houseing and i belive i have a 10.5 becuase the gap between the ring gear and the bottom of the houseing is VERY SMALL like too small to get a screw driver between... so the only shaving I believe that can be done with out milling the ring gear is just with the trusty old angle grinder.. but i'd like to be proven wrong

Here you go
http://www.sierrarockcrawlers.com/data/srcforumuploads/ford1025in.jpg :p :p

Lets see... basically it is a very strong diff in many regards. I personally know quite a few that do run them in trail rigs here in the upper midwest.

This is rather fresh in my mind due to just redoing the R&P in one for a friend of mine.
The ring and pinion it's self are quite huge.......the OEM carriers are brutally big as well. Axle tubes are rather thick, looking to be at or close to .500 but in the case of one I redid, one was slightly bent (it was a junkyard axle and may have been damaged in collison) The pumkin I believe could be shaved just like many others. There is basically very little room between ring gear and housing so if a cut and plate type modification was done you would have to seriously shave ring gear. Although a angle grinder and patience would most likely gain you some additional clearance.

I only have two complaints with this axle in truth.
#1. The pinion uses a crush sleeve like the 9" or the 8.8 Ford axles, and this is a cause of problems for those running big HP and lockers. Big engines and heavy loads have a way of crushing the crush washer and causing rather large messes with the R&P if not caught in time. (Probably why I was rebuilding the one I was)
#2 Thes axles are flat heavy. I can't give you an exact weight but I am guessing at least 500lbs. Whatever the weight, they weigh more than a Dana 70 as an example.

Now that you can get as low as 5.38 gears in them I suspect you will see more and more of these axles under full size rigs anyway...and the replacement of that crush sleeve with a solid one may cure this axles tendancy to loosen pinion nuts and self destruct.

NoRM
who still thinks a 14 bolt is much better.

Originally posted by P|n-BaLL
Lets see... basically it is a very strong diff in many regards. I personally know quite a few that do run them in trail rigs here in the upper midwest.

This is rather fresh in my mind due to just redoing the R&P in one for a friend of mine.
The ring and pinion it's self are quite huge.......the OEM carriers are brutally big as well. Axle tubes are rather thick, looking to be at or close to .500 but in the case of one I redid, one was slightly bent (it was a junkyard axle and may have been damaged in collison) The pumkin I believe could be shaved just like many others. There is basically very little room between ring gear and housing so if a cut and plate type modification was done you would have to seriously shave ring gear. Although a angle grinder and patience would most likely gain you some additional clearance.

I only have two complaints with this axle in truth.
#1. The pinion uses a crush sleeve like the 9" or the 8.8 Ford axles, and this is a cause of problems for those running big HP and lockers. Big engines and heavy loads have a way of crushing the crush washer and causing rather large messes with the R&P if not caught in time. (Probably why I was rebuilding the one I was)
#2 Thes axles are flat heavy. I can't give you an exact weight but I am guessing at least 500lbs. Whatever the weight, they weigh more than a Dana 70 as an example.

Now that you can get as low as 5.38 gears in them I suspect you will see more and more of these axles under full size rigs anyway...and the replacement of that crush sleeve with a solid one may cure this axles tendancy to loosen pinion nuts and self destruct.

NoRM
who still thinks a 14 bolt is much better.


I Do, but hey that is only my opinion. And i have learned sometimes the hard way you can break anything if you try hard enough.

you have points the biggest fall back I see is no 4.88 or 5.13 gears the gears jump from 4.56 to 5.38 so NO inbetween step... but I would have to disagree with you on the weight .... to of us carried this beast and we then walked over and picked up a Front Ford D44 and the Sterling is havier but not by Much.... my guess is 300-350. but hey 1.5 35 spline shafts STOCK and 10.5 ring gear and NO carrier break i'm not complaining.....

My 1997 F250 PSD 4x4 with the Sterling 10.25 rearend has a WMS-WMS measurement of roughly 65" with drums installed. The drums are "outboard" style as compared to the inboard D60's that I have seen.

On a related note, who has a link to a list of centerline to bottom of diff measurements?

measured my sterling yesterday and i remmber it was under 6" by just a bit but dont' remember the excat and mesured a buddies 60 today and it was just under 6" so appox equal the 60 has a lot of room to shave the houseing unlike the Sterling..... and that is where you get the differances

So, if the ring gear is already really close to the bottom of the housing....not much to work with. Did they "shave" it at the factory (or when it was designed)?

Has anyone else noticed that it has a funny flat bottom look in stock form?

How does clearance in stock form compare to say a 14 bolt? or Dana 70?

Originally posted by John Deere Ranger
you have points the biggest fall back I see is no 4.88 or 5.13 gears the gears jump from 4.56 to 5.38 so NO inbetween step...

Sorry, 4.88s and 5.13s are now available.

Originally posted by D60


Sorry, 4.88s and 5.13s are now available.

Really?!?!? From where?

J. J.

well i know you cant find a 14 bolt around here in a salvage yard, but they have huge piles of almost free sterlings... if i wanted full size axles i would happily slap one of these under my eb, but i dont like eating mud so i prefer my tires inside my fenders....
just thought i would pad my post count and add no relevent information to this post since it seems to be all the rage these days...

:flipoff2:

peace
Jw

Look at prices to make a non ff axle full float then add 35spline 1.5" shafts. I think that might even it out a little.

I think you really better check the prices.
I called Randy's a long time ago comparing the 14 bolt to the 10.25/10.5 and the sticker shock blotted out most of the memory, but I was quoted on the order of $600 for a detriot and $300 for gears.

in contrast,the 14 bolt in my basementwill get the $330 detriot. that made up my mind.

Originally posted by D60


Sorry, 4.88s and 5.13s are now available.

by who and were please post a link

Originally posted by Sundowner


I think you really better check the prices.
I called Randy's a long time ago comparing the 14 bolt to the 10.25/10.5 and the sticker shock blotted out most of the memory, but I was quoted on the order of $600 for a detriot and $300 for gears.

in contrast,the 14 bolt in my basementwill get the $330 detriot. that made up my mind.

yes this is a good advantage to the 14 bolt i guess they are like a whore cheap and you can bang the hell out of them....

Originally posted by John Deere Ranger


by who and were please post a link

Here's your 4.88's:
http://www.drivetraindirect.com/html2/dtdframehome3.html

I thought Motive Gear had the 5.13s out but their website was less than helpful IME. I've sent them an email.