: cutting brake ?s


newt
10-29-2002, 10:51 AM
I searched and it looks like nearly everyone is using some form of a line lock for cutting brakes. Why not use a standard e-brake?

I don't compete, so is there any real benefit to being able to lock just one rear wheel vs both? (I do have a detroit and twin sticks)

Are there any tricks of the trade for using them?

I plan to mount twin Toyota truck hand e-brakes (one for each rear wheel) unless ya'll can talk me out of it.
Thanks.

rkcrawl
10-29-2002, 01:28 PM
Putting it in front drive only then braking just the inside tire will result in a very tight turn radius... You say you are going to do one ebrake for each wheel, that is essentially the same thing, just using the ebrake instead of the hydraulics. Locking just one wheel is better then both, but a simple manual line lock is cheap.

I am putting a Jamar cutting brake vale in my rig, 2 handles, one left, one right. Rear detroit should rachet when in front drive only...

BlazzinOR
10-29-2002, 02:58 PM
Might want to give Stephen Watson a call at www.offroaddesign.com - he has cutting brakes in his K5 (well, it WAS a K5 at one time). He's the dude that got second place to bigblaze at TTC.

TRD
10-29-2002, 04:03 PM
why not install a real cutting brake instead of line lock, it would be a lot faster operation:confused:

Jaffer
10-29-2002, 07:07 PM
With an auto trannie and Atlas, I'd like to know the SMOOTHEST cutting brake setup...
The Legends/ModStock Currie Jeep sure does it well ... almost seamless. That's what I'd like.
I did see that he has dual hydraulic levers on the left to the driver's seat ... but when I looked for the actuators on it and on a whole lot of other rigs at SuperCrawl, I didn't see anything on or near the rear axels in the way of cutting brake valves or selenoids. confused:
Ideas?

Stephen
10-29-2002, 08:30 PM
seems like most of us run a CNC or jamar dual master type cutting brake. rear brake line goes in and one line for each rear wheel comes out. when you pull a lever, it adds pressure to that brake only. that's as smooth as it gets. valve costs under $100 typically. can't write more, sleepy baby on left arm, can't type one handed, pisses me off, too slow.

MuddMachine
10-30-2002, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by Stephen
seems like most of us run a CNC or jamar dual master type cutting brake. rear brake line goes in and one line for each rear wheel comes out. when you pull a lever, it adds pressure to that brake only. that's as smooth as it gets. valve costs under $100 typically. can't write more, sleepy baby on left arm, can't type one handed, pisses me off, too slow.

Excuse my uneducated ignorance but this cutting brake stuff is new to me. If you run them in the back, u disengage the rear wheeldrive when u actuate the cuttin brake ? Obviously this wont work with a lincoln locker but will it work with a detroit or lockrite ?
Can you or do you run a cuttin brake up front as well ?:confused:

HEAD
10-30-2002, 08:30 AM
I'm using cable operated cutting brakes in my rig, and it works great. I pickes up another stock handle with the cable, mounted it next to the original, split the cables to right and left and called it done. Cheap and works good!!

Moab Austin
10-30-2002, 11:17 AM
why not use a multi tasked electric swith to run linelock and t case..


say you wanna lock right rear and atlas around somthing quick, smooth, and without moving 15 freakin levers in the cockpit..

why not run a 3 way toggle on shifter or somthing easy to hit ..

middle position is off...left or right position linelocks eighter side, and Unlocks t case with a electric acutator...

so if ya gotta make a quick right..you hit breaks, hit switch (which pops reardrive out, right rear break on) let off breaks and punch it..then when you are lined up the way you wanna go you let off switch and your in 4x with no breaks on..

you could even hook this up to a electric detroit or arb as well

I think this would be slick...now anybody know of a electric servo strong enough to move a tcase lever but not strong enough to bend shift fork?

rkcrawl
10-30-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Titanium


Excuse my uneducated ignorance but this cutting brake stuff is new to me. If you run them in the back, u disengage the rear wheeldrive when u actuate the cuttin brake ? Obviously this wont work with a lincoln locker but will it work with a detroit or lockrite ?
Can you or do you run a cuttin brake up front as well ?:confused:

Yes, to be effective you go into front wheel drive only. It will work with a detroit or lockright, etc, as you've taken the power to the rear axle away and only lock one tire up, so it _should_ rachet.

I don't run them up front, don't know if anyone else does.

snobrder
10-31-2002, 06:07 AM
Run a ARB in the rear and turn brakes then don' t worry about twin sticks. If you need to turn tight, turn off the rear ARB, and lock the inside tire. This will turn better than a twin stick setup because the outside rear tire still pushes the rig around while a twin stick has to drag the rear around. Instead of using a twin stick and having to turn in 2 wheel drive, you are using 3 wheel drive...

TJ99
10-31-2002, 08:03 AM
that sound like a good idea