The web link below should give all the explaination.

DON'T BUY THIS POS!

http://junkyarddawgs.org/ledjer/noslip.htm

To quote the band Siliva "Click, Click, Boom!"

Was the cross shaft within specs? They recommend using a hardened cross shaft and that one looks worn.

i would be more incline to check out who put that in.

the locker doesnt seem damaged to me? looks like something else gave up first like the cross pin. :confused:

thats not a full case detroit right?

so why did the cross pin break and is that the same thing that broke before? sounds like you need to throw in a 300m cross pin :flipoff2:
peace
Jw

The No-Slip is installed into a open carrier - Which was brand new.

The installer was Mike Ladd of Bent and Twisted, so the installer knows what the hell he's doing.

The cross shaft was hardened, it was the wonderful Zytanium shaft that comes with the unit.

Yes, the previous cross shaft also broke, however, in a slightly different location.

Mike replaced my units with Detroits and not issues ever since.

If you look at this picture you can see the fact that the pin obviously walked out after egging out the carrier.
http://junkyarddawgs.org/ledjer/Dscf0097.jpg

I am not exactly a fan of these lockers but it' is clearly an example of the carrier failing from what I can see.

NoRM

The carrier was egged out because the opposite site of the shaft broke and the walked back and forth until it too broke.

Here is a link to another guy, who had a similar issue.

http://community.webshots.com/album/53740755FVPZoU

His locker teeth broke in the exact same manner. He has a YJ dana 30 front with 33" tires and a 4 banger.

Here is a pic of my previous x shaft, this one broke at the pin holes.

http://ledjer.junkyarddawgs.org/images/cs2.jpg

I suspect the combination of the 33" tires and the 3.55 gears had more to do with the failure then anything else. I have been running a lockrite in my jeep for the better part of 10 years with no problems.

Originally posted by Loafer409
I suspect the combination of the 33" tires and the 3.55 gears had more to do with the failure then anything else. I have been running a lockrite in my jeep for the better part of 10 years with no problems.

This is not a lock right. I have had nothing but good results from a lock right. The No-Slip isn't the same design as a lock right and is prone to failure.

I know of people that run 36's with lockrights and have no problems, but smaller tires and No-slips cause issues?

Both of my failures where on dry pavement, driving straight, and doing less than 35 miles per hour. None of the failures occured during load.

Ooops, my bad. I didn't realize that NO_Slip was/is the make of the locker. I'll butt out now.

hmmm

upgrade the beef :D

I have not seen a No-SLip up close yet, and would like to check one out to see how they are made and work.

From your photos it appears that the carrier failed first, then beat up the cross pin until it broke. I would send your info to the manufacturer, they need to see stuff like this to improve the product. Call them and see if they want it back, hopefuly they give you something in return, maybe you can e-bay it.

I remember not too many years ago (early 90's) that the lock-right was having cross pin problems, obviously those have been resolved.

The other guys pictures didn't show enough detail for me to see what happened.

Also, we don't know how hard you pounded it before it broke on the street. I have done it and seen it done. Pound on your rig off-road, and then when on-road something lets go. It was already damaged, but didn't break until later.

I got one of those in the rear and the locker itself never broke but the little thingy inside that spins around to engage the right side did. The teeth, shaft and all other components are fine and I get on the stupid pedal. So on the trails the right side didn't work 90% of the time so instead of pulling it out and sending it in for a warranty I made it into a lincoln locker. Well I bought a buddy some beer to weld it up for me same thing. I wish I had pics it looks pretty funny. But out of all the lunchboxers out there I'd say its pretty tough for what you pay for and its only what it is a lunchbox locker for those too lazy or unable to reset gears:flipoff2: Lesson of this story everyone wants a selectable but they're expensive. Others prefer a detroit because its so loud and cool. And then all of us brokedicks out there either lincoln lock the fawker or prefer a spool. Either way run what you like and build it only as well as you're going to wheel it :flipoff2:

Originally posted by BJ On Roids
hmmm

upgrade the beef :D

what he said :flipoff2:

Originally posted by BJ On Roids
hmmm

upgrade the beef :D

Obviously you guys don't read everything. I now have detroits, so the upgrade has already occured. I wouldn't recommend the POS No-Slip to anyone else.

The failures that I can see orginate in the Powertrax supplied cross shaft. I have heard stories of them being out of specification (either too big or too small) and them breaking due to being too brittle.

When my first No-Slip blew Powertrax wouldn't stand behind their warranty. They told me that they have a zero defect product that has never failed. That all failures that they have seen so far are from instillation error.

This is their common approach to customer service. Build a do-it-yourself product and then blame the purchaser that he installed it wrong. Then you never have to worry about warranties. I had my professionally installed both times, the first one blew less than 250 miles after installation. The product is so simple to install, unless your Rupreck the monkeyboy you can't Fawk it up.

My opinion is poor quality of cross shaft and the engaging teech are weak as well.

FWIW, I have heard a few people talk about problems with the no spin, but I don't know details. A buddy of mine has a Ford w a stroked 390 and 39.5 Swampers and he runs a Lock Right in his 60 rear, he has for years, with no problems. He had a Soft Locker in his 44 front and primptly sheared the teeth off of it. That Lock Right survives stuff like this:

Originally posted by ledjer


The installer was Mike Ladd of Bent and Twisted, so the installer knows what the hell he's doing.




if he really knew what he was doin he would have never intalled them in the first place :flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo


if he really knew what he was doin he would have never intalled them in the first place :flipoff2:


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


Good point....i suprised i have not seen

ARB,ARB,ARB,ARB
or
60,60,60,60,60,60

yet :flipoff2:

I had a similar break in an 8.8 ford rear end, and a buddy of mine recently lost the rear end in his cruiser to the exact same problem.

Originally posted by Chrisjeep7



ARB,ARB,ARB,ARB
and
60,60,60,60,60,60



well at least you know what to do :flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo


well at least you know what to do :flipoff2:


60's are for tow rig's :flipoff2:

I looked in the pics and don't see the little shear pin that holds the cross-pin in place.....was it already in the gear oil when you popped the cover off?

Originally posted by DSI



60's are for tow rig's :flipoff2:

So does that mean I have to swap the D80 out of the Dodge with D60 in the Jeep. No wonder my Jeeps broken.

Originally posted by ZUK
I looked in the pics and don't see the little shear pin that holds the cross-pin in place.....was it already in the gear oil when you popped the cover off?

The sheer pin was still in place and connected to the broken piece that was removed and next to the center section of the cros shaft. The other end is stuck inside the carrier now.

Originally posted by DSI



60's are for tow rig's :flipoff2:

well when i am towing your broken down tiny axle rig off the trail i am technacialy speaking.................. a tow rig. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by ledjer
The carrier was egged out because the opposite site of the shaft broke and the walked back and forth until it too broke.

Here is a link to another guy, who had a similar issue.

http://community.webshots.com/album/53740755FVPZoU

His locker teeth broke in the exact same manner. He has a YJ dana 30 front with 33" tires and a 4 banger.

Here is a pic of my previous x shaft, this one broke at the pin holes.

http://ledjer.junkyarddawgs.org/images/cs2.jpg

Well actually I'm running 35's on it Jerry, but who's couning?

These things are a POS. I had mine break 3 times, driving on the street. The pins in the drivers snapped off on both sides and it locked up like a spool. They just kept sending me a new locker. I finally took the damn thing back to the shop I bought it from and they let me trade it in for an ARB. The Lock-Right in the front has never given me any problems. So I would stay away from them.My .02$

I've been running a no-slip in the rear 8.8 od my Ranger for the bette part of three years now, with no problems. The 8.8 is even famous for it's weak carriers, but my 5;13's, and 36" tires haven't seemed to be a problem yet???

You may want to ask yourself this question before talking thrash about a company...... Do you know how to drive?????:flipoff2:

Brian--

Every time it broke it was while driving on the street! It never broke while wheeling.

That doesn't mean that it wasn't your driving....

Think about it, lockers weren't designed for the street.;)

You're right. But they do market them as "streetable" and the most quiet. Alot of the time you could'nt even tell it was there, but every so often it would pop so bad people would yell to stop because you just broke something(until it finally did). I just had a bad experience with them(3 times). I still stand by the lockright.

ITS CALLED WELD IT UP! OR GET OUT! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by 1uglyranger
I've been running a no-slip in the rear 8.8 od my Ranger for the bette part of three years now, with no problems. The 8.8 is even famous for it's weak carriers, but my 5;13's, and 36" tires haven't seemed to be a problem yet???

You may want to ask yourself this question before talking thrash about a company...... Do you know how to drive?????:flipoff2:

Brian--

Congrats Brian you are very lucky to have it hold up. As for your comment about thrashing a company. No one I have read is trashing Powertrax. We are trashing their poorly designed locker. Most of us agree that the lock right also make by Powertrax is a good product.

I think the main issue is that the powertrax locks too hard (solidly) for a open carrier, this binding causes the cross shaft to break. Why else do they provide an extra stong cross shaft. The lock right doesn't require it. The new cross shaft if it doesn't break due to its more brittle structure causes the open carrier to fail.

No product is 100% failure proof as powertrax claimed to me that the No-SLip is. Even the best lockers fail. But the No-slip has a much higher failure rate than any other locker I have seen.