: Mexico competition
RedBullJeep 10-29-2002, 09:00 PM Hi all,
As we are new to the RockCrawling circuit, we don't know all of the people involved very well. We are interested in going to the BajaRocks competition but we are wondering about the event and it's organisers...the reason we bring this up is that we have been burned doing other events in Mexico (not RockCrawling) and had basically too much red tape to go through to go after our money. Some people will be paying over $2900 in entry fees, tranport fees, plus accomodation fees. That's a lot of money.
Does anybody know the organiser, Dan Brown? Or any of the others involved with BIRCA? www.bajarocks.com Any experience good or bad???
In the end, if this is a good organisation, this will be something terrific for the sport, the sponsors, the competitors, the Southern Baja region, and the organisers.
I'd just like to hear something more than they are not amateurs.
Jeepmangled87 10-29-2002, 09:08 PM I heard that this was all still in the works and nothing was for sure yet, I still worry about safety being a # 1 issue going into Mexico, with an exsoensive rig it would suck to get jakced down there, if every thing falls into place I really think it would be an awesome event but safety in my mind is first.
skinny 10-29-2002, 09:12 PM dustin email me
RedBullJeep 10-29-2002, 09:17 PM In Mexico, your safety line is common sense. I am around quite a few Off Road racers and they all say that it's no real trouble if you travel by day, don't get obnoxious, carry simple gifts for the kids like candy and stickers (these work for the police as well), and try to carry your own competition fuel...there really are no problems. As for protecting your expensive rig, chains/locks/steering clubs/and busy areas are all good ideas.
Lance 10-29-2002, 09:25 PM Dan's been around for a long time. He's a successful businessman, but he's new to promoting rock crawling events. He has some good guys on his team, however. He has Eddie and the crew at ORC, who are very familiar with events in Baja. He also has RCAA's very own course designer Phil Collard designing the courses. I talked to Phil about the event at Supercrawl, and he is really pumped about it. He said it will be AWESOME. I've talked to Dan on the phone serveral times now about the event (he's called me from Cabo) and it sounds like things are coming together. He was recently interviewed by some Spanish/Euro TV show that has a 45million viewer base. and had over 5 minutes of airtime. The Mexican govt. and city of Cabo are really excited about the event, as they beileve it will bring lots of money to the area. I talked with Walker Evans about saftey down there, and he said that should be the last thing on our mind. He has been down there countless times for races, and has never ever had anything even remotely close to trouble. All the crap you hear is all B.S. My DAD recently rode his Harley down to Cabo this summer. He had a blast, and had no problems.
I will be there, hell or highwater! :cool2:
onetoncv 10-29-2002, 09:29 PM its got a good pot if you win too- Jess:D
Originally posted by onetoncv
its got a good pot if you win too- Jess:D
50 g's aint half bad.
onetoncv 10-29-2002, 10:02 PM yeh its worth it to spend 500$ on a driveline to get the chance - and not blow it with 300$ and 1/2 crap- i may have to run it for 50k-Jess :D
Jayrockn7 10-30-2002, 12:41 AM That entry fee is a killer, plus the long haul. Most teams cann't afford to fly their rigs down so they'll have to tow, that's a lot of fuel cost too. I can't see how Shupe and Durham can do it, I'd pass but then again I'm not a former ARCA/RCAA champ or Supercrawl winner either, I guess most of the RCAA rigs will have sponsors that pay for the trip, must be nice:rolleyes: Kick ass wheelin and in Cabo, boy everyone that goes is going to have a blast:D
Jaffer 10-30-2002, 08:04 AM I spoke to Phil Collard a few months ago just after his first look-around trip down there.
And yes, he was really jacked about it ... said the location with it's pink granite was absolutely beautiful.
He told me he wasn't going to lay out a real ball breaker due to the unavailability of replacment parts. Not to say it won't be extremely challenging ... all his coarses are at least that!
:flipoff2:
If nothing else, I like to go down just to watch and take pics but since Eddie P is involved we will at least get to see some good coverage afterwards in his ORC competition section.
Lance 10-30-2002, 08:11 AM Originally posted by Jayrockn7
That entry fee is a killer, plus the long haul.
The entry fee is $700. Last place (60th place) takes home $1500. :p
Originally posted by Lance
The entry fee is $700. Last place (60th place) takes home $1500. :p
Holy Crap! Can't bitch about that. I can tell you that it's extremely unusual for last place to take home ANYTHING in most forms of competition (be it bowling, golf, bass tourneys, motorsports, etc). Only downside I can see would be the travel expense, and again that's only an issue depending on your individual location.
TEX
robc10x 10-30-2002, 08:27 AM The wife and I spent over a week there - you all will have a blast! We spent a day cruising up the coast of the Gulf of California from San Jose del Cabo (North of Cabo San Lucas) in a rented jeep and were on a dirt road for hours winding along the coast.
Never felt threatened, despite being in the middle of nofuckingwhere. The Rock gardens are ENDLESS. There are tons of places to play, some of them life-threatening due to the remoteness of the place (you break or get injured and you're f'd).
Best part was just pulling off the road onto a deserted beach and.... well.... Did I mention there was no-one for miles?!? :D
The main thing about safety is just to be aware of who/what is around you and don't be STooPID.
Originally posted by Lance
All the crap you hear is all B.S. My DAD recently rode his Harley down to Cabo this summer. He had a blast, and had no problems.
I will be there, hell or highwater! :cool2:
NOT so fast there buddy. i would consider myself a vetran of desert racing in mexico as i have been doing it for well over 7 years. plenty of people get killed, ripped off and thrown in jail while in baja mexico. i have personaly seen all of the above happen. the common denoinater seems to be stupidy. for some reason when people cross the border they think they are in a lawless land and if there are rules they do not apply to them.
when in mexico remember you are in a forien country and should behave as a guest, not a crazy drunken asshole. this simple rule will probally keep you out of 95 percent of all trouble. ( but it boggles my mind how many americans you will see down there who do not grasp this concept. )
Lance,
one of the reasons walker never personally had troubles in mexico is because he was surounded by people who handled the trouble for him. ( remember one of my best friends was a fabricater on his team and i think he could tell you plenty of mexico horror storys. )
Originally posted by RedBullJeep
As we are new to the RockCrawling circuit
Not to hijack your thread, but this line woke up the squirrels that occupy the space above my eyes. How exactly does someone "new to the circuit" find major corporate backing so quick? Were your connected to RedBull's marketing dept in some way before you ever locked a hub, just in the right place at the right time, or a superb salesman? Not trying to flame at all here, I just think there's an interesting story behind this, and perhaps some lessons to be learned by those of us like me - I HAVE been involved in Mud Racing for a long time, people DO know who I am, people respect what I do, and I have no sponsors.
TEX
KYODER 10-30-2002, 08:58 AM My buddy lost his rig down there to the Police. It was on a trailer, stopped for gas police came up looked it over, asked where the factory VIN plate was. It was a 2x4x.120 box frame that I built and a Fiberglass tube. Totally clean and streetable jeep. took 6 months and 10 k to get it back. He was with his wife and 2 young kids. So it can Happen. Make sure all your rigs have at least a DMV assigned green sticker and vin.
Last year another friend handed a 20 bill when ask for registraion for his 4 seat sand rail and they never looked twice.
Originally posted by KYODER
Make sure all your rigs have at least a DMV assigned green sticker and vin.
Mexico entry insurance is another biggy. I remember when I had to travel down there for business, it was about $15 per day tacked onto our rental car fee.
Last year another friend handed a 20 bill when ask for registraion for his 4 seat sand rail and they never looked twice.
Never enter Mexico w/o a $20 bill in your shirt pocket. And make sure if you have a lot MORE cash, you don't keep it with your license. I've never been pulled over down there, but several friends have. They all advised that the best thing was to be extremely courteous (DUH!), and never make it look like you're giving a bribe. Play dumb & ask what you need to do to take care of the fine, "Do I have to go somewhere to take care of this, or can I pay it now?".
TEX
Toytek8 10-30-2002, 09:49 AM Is the money going to be guaranteed??Full 60 rig registration or what??If not full registration then how will payout be??
nobody20 10-30-2002, 10:35 AM I'm interested in going to at least to spectate. How long is the drive and what's the best route? I'll be leaving from AZ.
RedBullJeep 10-30-2002, 11:06 PM Originally posted by TEX
How exactly does someone "new to the circuit" find major corporate backing so quick? Not trying to flame at all here, I just think there's an interesting story behind this, and perhaps some lessons to be learned by those of us like me.
TEX
I don't have a ton of time right now to go into exactly how I hooked Red Bull but I will give you some insight to who I am. For the last 15 years, I have not worked a job like most. I am a professional cliff diver and have made my entire living off of chasing, getting, and then servicing sponsors. I literally work 60 or more hours per week on this and that is all I do besides compete. Right now, while you are at work, I am on the phone and computer wooing sponsors...this will not end with RedBull! The thing with being a cliff diver is I had to find unique ways to get sponsor's attention... who really wants to put a branding logo on a speedo? (ok guys, don't go off on that one or I'll tell about you and your sister's underwear) So...I became very much in tune with methods of networking and finding information that gave me insight into thousands of companies marketing strategies. I then narrowed down the companies that I truely felt I could work as a team with...companies that I could benefit in a real way. That experience is the reason I was able to semi-retire from cliff diving two months ago and start wheeling full-time. I was considering sponsors and saw that RedBull was the biggest "Nitch sponsor" that might be interested into starting with wheeling. They already knew who I was as I had 15 World Championship Titles in a very recognisable extreme sport that they had sponsor ties to. When I approached them, they said they had 13 different rock crawler proposals in their file. (i asked to see them and let me tell you, those drivers really had no clue how to write a proposal). The one thing that the proposals kept saying was that those guys promised to build the biggest, baddest machine, and win every competition...with 15 people saying that, who would you go to??? RedBull couldn't figure it out and as the proposals did not catch them off guard, they just stuck em in a file.
I was different. I told them I wouldn't win a single event! I told them that I would build a vehicle that would fit the stock class and then compete it against the pros for one season. I told them that along the way I would draw exposure that would equal that of the biggest, baddest machines. After the season ended, they had seen how much exposure we had drawn with such little time and so few events and agreed to expand the team to two vehicles. Two weeks ago, I bought Walker's S10 and am in the middle of re-branding it and I will compete that in Pro/unlimited. I sold them on the idea of taking a woman with almost zero experience and putting her in the jeep for one season and see how she does. They loved the idea and my wife, Becca, also a world ranked professional cliff diver, will be the main driver. She will compete in the stock modifieds and when she isn't driving, we will ask Cathy Crook to drive. I am also going to offer the S-10 to Cathy for the Women's only events.
So, in the basic way, I have a good mind for finding relationships that work. If I come across a company I don't fit in with but will fit with someone else, I will work to move that other person in for some $ and ask for a small token of appreciation. I have gotten tons of sponsorships for other extreme athletes and hope to help expand this sport by doing the same. As I meet the teams and get to know them, I will know who would be right for certain scenarios...
So, as a guy that just turned his first competitve hub this season, I'm not new to this game at all...really, I have played this game more than most...just without a seatbelt, or helmet, or machine, just a lot of air between me and the concrete ocean!
RockOn and I look forward to seeing you on the trail!
HNRYS69 10-31-2002, 01:27 AM Very cool story. Redbull seems like an all out extreme sports company. Mountain Dew is the only more public extreme company I have seen.
KeithF 10-31-2002, 04:52 AM good story redbull.
I've been to Cabo over 20 times in the past 25 years and have never had problems with the law. Even got a buddy out of jail for grand theft auto, resisting arrest and drunk driving all on the same bill for about $40 US and a minolta instamatic camera and this guy was our #2 US Olympic hopefull in slalom. Be safe and try to refrain from being the ugly american and you're cool in cabo.
On another note, this past August when I was down there I rented a desert racer from a company called Wide Open and I have to say that was a fawken blast.
Great story indeed RedBull. And it actually makes me feel a little better that you didn't just have that sponsor fall into your lap LOL. Marketing myself to sponsors is clearly an area where I need a TON of work. And all of my spare time is spent trying to secure locations, dates, insurance, and all the other stuff you have to do when you put on events. And I'm going at this from another angle as I'm looking for event sponsorhip as opposed to vehicle sponsorship, though I'm sure the methods aren't all that different. Plus, I'm not actually the one promoting these events (though that's coming), I just conduct them. So, recruiting competitors has always been more of a focus for me than has recruiting sponsors. We also have an exposure problem in that the West-Coast based print magazines don't give a lot of respect to competition mud events, despite them being every bit as much of a spectator draw here in the Midwest as rock-crawling events are out West. So, I have to sell myself to those folks as well, although I think getting one or two major backers who ADVERTISE in their mags is probably the key there. I guess the good news is that there's nowhere to go but UP from where I am now. And the venues where we race are completely untapped markets for product & service placement. And if you happen to bump into a sponsor that you can't place in rocks (or one that wants to expand beyond), send 'em my way. I'd be more than happy to kick a little commision back toward ya :)
TEX
RedBullJeep 10-31-2002, 08:14 AM Originally posted by HNRYS69
Very cool story. Redbull seems like an all out extreme sports company. Mountain Dew is the only more public extreme company I have seen.
People might not believe this but RedBull was before Mountain Dew in marketing to the Extreme markets. Red Bull has been in Europe for 13 years and has always been the number 1 nitch marketer. Mountain Dew saw the success they were having in 1990 and that's when they switched over their marketing focus.
They were just not in the states until a few years ago as they had a tough time keeping up with sales in Europe alone. Truely, this company has a great success story...I feel super lucky to be part of their family and really, it is a family...a really fawkin huge family.
OK, back to the thread...I've gotten some PM's plus Lance's feedback on Dan and this new BIRCA association...anyone else have any input into Dirty Dan???
Michael Lopas 10-31-2002, 08:50 AM When is the competition supposed to happen? Need more info on this. My son and I might be able to enter two rigs.
Thanks,
nobody20 10-31-2002, 11:22 AM Originally posted by RedBullJeep
People might not believe this but RedBull was before Mountain Dew in marketing to the Extreme markets. Red Bull has been in Europe for 13 years and has always been the number 1 nitch marketer. Mountain Dew saw the success they were having in 1990 and that's when they switched over their marketing focus.
They were just not in the states until a few years ago as they had a tough time keeping up with sales in Europe alone. Truely, this company has a great success story...
I lived in Spain 94-97 and Red Bull had a tremendous presence in all the parts of Europe that I traveled in.
RedBullJeep 10-31-2002, 01:06 PM Originally posted by dncswrk
When is the competition supposed to happen? Need more info on this. My son and I might be able to enter two rigs.
Thanks,
For more info, go to www.bajarocks.com
How are you doing. Hope your ankle is healing up good. I was the red jeep behind you at the Supercrawl. Your ideas on sponsorship must come in handy. I found out that I was invited to the Supercrawl three weeks before the event. I have never tried to gain sponsorship for anything but this was the only way I would be able to go. I raced around to local shops in town and managed to raise some money so I went. Now I am trying to figure out if I can make one or two comps in the States next year. Have you got any secrets on how to convince the poeple up here to sponser a competitor for an event that is thousands of miles away. Many places in this part of the country have never heard of rackcrawling. This makes it almost imposible.
Shupee 10-31-2002, 05:41 PM Moose and I are toying with the idea of going down, However if we go there will have to be a gauranteed purse involved. safety is a little concern for rednecks also but I have it all figured out
#1- My 2 meanest rottweillers from the junkyard and 300lbs of food for them.
#2- 2 assault rifles with 2k rounds of ammo
#3- Multiple large rednecks in truck (ie:moose,andrew,etc)
#4- 332 1 dollar bills for the nudy bars we've heard about
#5- Plane tickets for the WIFE to go to her mothers house in Georgia for a week so she doesn't interfere w/ the hoochy mama's we've also heard about.
On a serious note, Dan Brown is a really good guy. You can't help but like him, He has rolled a jeep more than all the competitors combined. We are hoping he can pull it off. However for us to go I am going to reinerate a gauranteed purse. The sport has enough of the B__ H____'s in it now and I really don't think Dan would mislead anyone about anything.
Good luck to all and P.S. I still don't have any sponsor's either and my wife has spent all the money Iwon at Wal-Mart.
Toytek8 10-31-2002, 06:32 PM Hey Shupe maybe we should hit Wal-Mart up for sponsorship then it would be like everyones wife was sponsoring us.
jalapeno 10-31-2002, 08:54 PM Originally posted by Shupee
Moose and I are toying with the idea of going down, However if we go there will have to be a gauranteed purse involved. safety is a little concern for rednecks also but I have it all figured out
#1- My 2 meanest rottweillers from the junkyard and 300lbs of food for them.
#2- 2 assault rifles with 2k rounds of ammo
#3- Multiple large rednecks in truck (ie:moose,andrew,etc)
#4- 332 1 dollar bills for the nudy bars we've heard about
#5- Plane tickets for the WIFE to go to her mothers house in Georgia for a week so she doesn't interfere w/ the hoochy mama's we've also heard about.
On a serious note, Dan Brown is a really good guy. You can't help but like him, He has rolled a jeep more than all the competitors combined. We are hoping he can pull it off. However for us to go I am going to reinerate a gauranteed purse. The sport has enough of the B__ H____'s in it now and I really don't think Dan would mislead anyone about anything.
Good luck to all and P.S. I still don't have any sponsor's either and my wife has spent all the money Iwon at Wal-Mart.
thats amazing you dont have sponsors. now that i have had a few competitoins, i feel like you are a "michale j or tiger w" of the rockcrawling world. i know how difficult it is to 2 days of competition and finish with less than 100 points, much less 9. whats it going to take? do we need to start hiring PR Reps?!?
RedBullJeep 10-31-2002, 09:56 PM Originally posted by jalapeno
do we need to start hiring PR Reps?!?
YES, we do...
Originally posted by Shupee
#2- 2 assault rifles with 2k rounds of ammo
I know you're just joking here, but just for reference, you cannot bring weapons or ammo into Mexico (in case anyone was thinking of it).
TEX
pure-adrenaline 11-05-2002, 01:42 PM It's funny that everyone is so worried about mexico. I dragged raced for ten years before I started to go all over the place and rock crawl. I have had generators, tools, coolers you name it stolen. All in the U.S. No one talked trash about Albuquerque, Denver or Phoenix. They got some major stealing problems and police that don't care. So it dosn't really matter where you go. Be safe and things will go fine. Dan has talked to everyone down there about security and the mexican govt. wants this to go well too. They need the money it will bring. They will go out of the way to make us safe. If everyone is worried about the money then only go w/ the 700.00 entry and do the rest yourself. Dan has went out of his way to make this easy for everyone. Thats why he has the package deal. If 700.00 is a problem for someone and is going to go broke if they lose it they should't go anyway. They should stay home and save their money. I'm going to go down and have fun, tear up my new rig and get a hang over. Because we all know Shupee and Moose are going to take top honors.
Jeepmangled87 11-05-2002, 02:42 PM I thnk Adam Lunn in his new Campbell Liberty are going to try and make it, I just hope we can come up with the money for the beer and hookers we will need.:D
Moab Austin 11-05-2002, 05:07 PM Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
I thnk Adam Lunn in his new Campbell Liberty are going to try and make it, I just hope we can come up with the money for the beer and hookers we will need.:D
yeah...at Foxtails they were cheap!!!
well the beer wasn't
REDBULLJEEP...
you musta read one of my proposals to redbull to...maybe it was to early..I was talking with them 2 years ago when it woulda been alot less spendy..then all the sudden stopped hearing from them..stopped getting calls returned etc...
oh well the guy I was trying to get sponsored is kicking ass with somone else now...
so..it sounds like they are getting into this on a more serious side now..what they dropping 100k a year now?
RedBullJeep 11-05-2002, 07:18 PM I came into RedBull almost two years ago with my first inquiries but they were just feelers on the motorsport goals of their company. At that time they said they had heard of rockcrawling but that it was too early to jump into a sport that was still untested.
You are right about them wanting to get more serious though. I wouldn't be surprised to see them doing a fun event of their own (with the help of some experts that are currently busting their ass for us) by the end of 2004...let's just keep our fingers crossed. The good thing about them getting involved is that it is always tough to bring in the FIRST outside sponsor...after that, it just gets easier and easier for everyone.
As for how much they are dropping into rockcrawling, I can't tell ya what we are getting but I can say that they spent a few bucks this year just to come to the UROC events and watch...as well as hand out a little product...I bet they will continue to get more involved over this next season while they look for a nice opportunity to help us grow!
Originally posted by RedBullJeep
The good thing about them getting involved is that it is always tough to bring in the FIRST outside sponsor...after that, it just gets easier and easier for everyone.
Boy, isn't THAT the truth! Nobody wants to be the first to touch an untouched marketing niche, but once someone does, everyone wants in :)
TEX
schuss 11-06-2002, 05:26 AM the real question is....can you get me free redbull crap? :D I'm addicted to the damn stuff. They have a great presence in "fringe" sports like rockcrawling and trials, and seem to support the sports that no one else does. Hmmmm, an arena rockcrawl/trials event would be damn cool...
tknoll 11-06-2002, 10:30 PM Wow. What great commentary on Marketing and Sponsorship. Dustin your story was probably inspirational to all the wheelers out there that would like to do it for a living. I enjoyed reading it very much. You make me wonder if I should open up a side business. ;)
See you in January.
T
RealJeepMan 11-11-2002, 10:48 PM So Dustin, how do I find myself a marketing manager? I am very interested in finding a sponser or two and attending more events but would like to find someone who has more time and experience in that field. Are you for hire or know someone who is and is good?
Ryan
RedBullJeep 12-02-2005, 09:14 AM Wow, you dug up a thread from a competition where NOBODY got paid...That's the fourth time I have done a major sporting competition in Mexico and NOT gotten paid.
Not saying you wouldn't do that but wow, I wouldn't have dug this event back up to post in as that event left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
Scout Dude 12-02-2005, 09:17 AM Wow, you dug up a thread from a competition where NOBODY got paid...That's the fourth time I have done a major sporting competition in Mexico and NOT gotten paid.
Not saying you wouldn't do that but wow, I wouldn't have dug this event back up to post in as that event left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
I dunno, I still had a great time:beer: :beer:
Thx Daren!:flipoff2:
RedBullJeep 12-02-2005, 10:31 AM It appears Ponce deleted his posts pimping UROC Mexico...seeing as his organisation is really new anyway, he deserves his own thread.
TotalImmortal 12-02-2005, 10:55 AM mexico is not as scary as everyone makes it out to be. especially traveling down the peninsula to cabo. the farther you get down (ie outside of ensenada area) the safer you are. I have been running chase for baja pits for a good 5 years now (3 years with my dad and 2 years running a chase rig by myself) and i have never had a problem. I've been pulled over a total of 2 times (once with 210 gallons of race gas on the back of my truck) and that only costed me 40 bucks. just be safe, dont speed, watch for the damn HIDDEN STOP SIGNS. they like to hide them behind trees and buildings haha
This is one of those rare cases where a reread after 3 years is still interesting - even if the guy who dug it up deleted himself ;)
TEX
4x4Grrl 12-02-2005, 12:18 PM When we (Lance and I) went down for the last Baja Rocks we had a good time till Lance got sick. I am not complaining he was REALLY sick, I flew him home because he had me worried and I drove home following Dan Brown. I think one of the best times spent there was in Mulaje (sp?) in a Palapa. It was awesome. I will definitely be going back down someday. Although, we did have to bail one of our friends that was hangin with us out of jail for pissing in public. He didn't just whip it out in the street and pee. But he did get caught. The pokey down there is KEWL! So DON'T pee in public :flipoff2: All in I would definitely go back. I would just rather fly into San Jose and rent a car from there. Which is only about 20 miles or so from Cabo.
4x4Grrl 12-02-2005, 12:25 PM Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBullJeep
Wow, you dug up a thread from a competition where NOBODY got paid...That's the fourth time I have done a major sporting competition in Mexico and NOT gotten paid.
Not saying you wouldn't do that but wow, I wouldn't have dug this event back up to post in as that event left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
I have to admit that was my first thought. It was an expensive trip for everyone with the promise of everybody getting SOME money out of it. So I hope things have been resolved and will be more successful next time. Dan is a nice guy and I don't know what conspired with the payout, but I am sure he is going to be good on his word this time. Or else there are a few that would kick his azz if he jukes them again.
pure-adrenaline 12-02-2005, 02:11 PM Dan will never pay out...... I spent $4500.00 to ship rig, airfare, hotel, and food-BEER and had the best time of my life! I would do it again!
mudslinger99 12-02-2005, 02:33 PM It appears Ponce deleted his posts pimping UROC Mexico...seeing as his organisation is really new anyway, he deserves his own thread.
He didn't delete it.. The board lost all the post for 21 hours, see Lances post at the top of each page..
smalltimewheeler 12-02-2005, 05:41 PM Is Dirty Dan really involved with this new event? It would be so great to see him again.
TheRipper 12-02-2005, 07:18 PM The entry fee is $700. Last place (60th place) takes home $1500. :p
So you are atleast trading $700 for $1500 then.That covers the gas and motels are cheap in mexico.
Scout Dude 12-02-2005, 07:21 PM So you are atleast trading $700 for $1500 then.That covers the gas and motels are cheap in mexico.
Haha, if that were only true:laughing:
Magoo 12-02-2005, 08:41 PM So is ah.... Tracey Jordan going? :flipoff2: I talked to him at the WEROCK event in Goldendale and asked him about the '02 event he won. WOW! I won't be going down there with a rig unless Los Federales are well fed.
Jeep Master Ponce 01-17-2006, 12:47 AM DUSTIN,
I NEVER DELETED MY MESSAGE. SORRY I AM NEW TO THE FORUM. WHICH BY THE WAY WE FIND EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE AND BALLS OUT! WE HAVE ALREADY LINKED IT TO OUR WEBSITES DOWN HERE IN MEXICO.
CAN YOU PLEASE EMAIL ME WHO TO CONTACT TO PROMOTE THE UROC MEXICO PRO NATIONALS AND START A THREAD. GTOROCKS IS A GREAT FUN SAFE PLACE. LOOK INTO IT GTOROCKS, MEXICO (http://www.guanajuatocapital.com/ingles.html). THERE ARE PLENTY OF AMERICANS/CANADIANS/EUROPEANS THAT ARE RETIRED AND RESIDE HERE...HELL THE GM PLANT IS DOWN HERE...GM FABRICATES AND SHIPS THE HUMMERS UP THERE FROM HERE.
AS FAR AS THE BAJA ROCKS EVENT WELL FROM THE PICS IT LOOKED LIKE DAN BROWN PUT A GREAT AMOUNT OF WORK INTO THE ROCK SHOW! WHEN BIRCA HELD THEIR EVENT IN BAJA. (WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM COLONIAL CENTRAL MEXICO...WE DONT EVEN CONSIDER IT MEXICO WE CONSIDER IT BAJA). WELL HONESTLY ROCK CRAWLING WAS ONLY A DREAM IN 2003. I RECALL WHEN I ORGANIZED THE FIRST FREE JEEP JAMBOREE IN MEXICO IN 2002 AND WHEELERS STARTED COMING OUT FROM THE WOOD WORKS. AFTER THAT COMPETITIONS AND OTHER 4x4 EVENTS BEGAN POPPING UP. BUT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TRUE ROCK CRAWLING EVENT OR SERIES. UNTIL NOW:)
ROCK CRAWLING IS ALL THAT WE HAVE HERE IN GTOROCKS TO KEEP US BUSY AND HAPPY. WE SEE ROCK CRAWLING NOT ONLY AS A SPORT BUT AS A FORM OF ART. EVERY RIG WAS ITS STYLE, EVERY DRIVER AND CO-PILOT HAS THEIR TALENT AND STRATEGY TO PERFORM AND DO IT WELL. EVEN THE CARNAGE HAS CARACTER IN THIS EXTREME MOTOR SPORT!
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE NOW! WE KNOW IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL! AND HOPE TO SEE YOU HERE. ASK TRACY JORDAN I HAVE TALKED TO HIM IN PERSON AND VIA PHONE.
ANYWAY PLEASE EMAIL ME YOUR TEL. I HAVE SENT YOU A PRIVATE MESSAGE.
SALUDOS FROM GTOROCKS:D
Rudezuk 01-17-2006, 07:18 AM Is this the same promotor from the '03 event the people never got paid for??
Any links to this event, or dates for it?
RedBullJeep 01-17-2006, 09:45 AM No Shane, it is a different promoter from the 03 event.
Rudezuk 01-17-2006, 10:16 AM No Shane, it is a different promoter from the 03 event.
You have the event date dustin? This sounds like a blast!!
mudslinger99 01-17-2006, 02:48 PM I'm guessing he PM'ed everybody that posted in this thread the same info or an I just special :confused: :laughing:
Jeep Master Ponce 01-18-2006, 05:26 PM RUDZUK,
THESE ARE THE DATES:
Guanajuato, "GTOROCKS®" GTO
Sept 2-3, 2006 , 2006 (Central Mexico)
(580 Miles from the Laredo, Tx border)
Stock - Modified - Super Class
Durango, "DURANGOROCKS®" Durango
Nov 18-19, 2006 (Western Mexico)
(650 Miles from the El Paso, Tx border)
Stock - Modified - Super Class
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