All right I have MY Krawler witch to say is a FORD so take it easy on me for a little bit. I do how ever have 97 TJ and I want A long arm kit cause it has to stay street legal for next couple of years so custom building it out of the question. I need something thats going to do good on the trail but i really dont Care about the sway on the street cause you know got to sacrfice something somewere. I hear Rockrawler flexs better than RE:eek: so if the case my be will give me my answer!:confused:

theres more to wheelin then ramps I say RE:flipoff2:

RK only flexs better then the RE cause it uses shorter shocks.

i have a second hand RE lift for my XJ (thoroughly abused by previous owner). I know it's not the same as the TJ, but I just thought that I would put in a plug that RE makes some QUALITY shiat!!! it has held up VERY nicely.

my .02:D

Nevermind the fact that Rockkrawler had to pull their original line of long arm kits off the market due to BAD failures in the field. Yulp, that's some "engineering" that I'd be willing to put my trust in.

:rolleyes:

cmk

I just have the RE short arm kit, and I have no complaints at all. I had to put a bushing in one of the rear arms, but that's it. The cartridge joints are still like new, and it's been on there for almost 2 years.

Originally posted by TuffTruck
All right I have MY Krawler witch to say is a FORD so take it easy on me for a little bit. I do how ever have 97 TJ and I want A long arm kit cause it has to stay street legal for next couple of years so custom building it out of the question. I need something thats going to do good on the trail but i really dont Care about the sway on the street cause you know got to sacrfice something somewere. I hear Rockrawler flexs better than RE:eek: so if the case my be will give me my answer!:confused:

'We'll take it easy on you when you deserve it :flipoff2:


You can make anything with a chop saw, sawzall, some steel and and welder. But some arnt so talented. Tell you brother to quit dreaming so big get realist and do something he can do and move bigger later


Seems your reply on the aftermarket frames could apply here too :flipoff2: You could build your link suspension and keep it street legal. You can build anything with a chop saw, sawzall some steel and welder.

Welcome newbie :flipoff2:

Full Traction. Their long arm is going to revealed @ SEMA next week. From what hear it is going to be the SHIT.

RE is the way to go! :flipoff2: RK! All I've heard is bad things.

Well the peolpe have spoke RE takes it with 80% Lead so what can say I was just corious so. Like that Monkey that %@#%s him self up all the time just didnt want to make a mistake have buddy that rockrawlers paying him to test there shit he broke hiems left and right at first but has not had a problem since said man its great now that nothing breaks but its on an XJ so I think Ill stick
with the courisly strong RE was my first choise and I guess I never should have had second thought RE all the baby


In the word of a great Generation:
"Come on baby spread them legs and give me some GRAVEY"
YYYYYUUUUMMMMMMMIIIIIIIEEEEEE

if you buy RE, i would highly recomend going through a distrubotor as opposed to going through them directly. i have found that i can get there products shipped to me for what they retail them for.

Hunter

Originally posted by YETI
RE is the way to go! :flipoff2: RK! All I've heard is bad things.



" re all the way:D

Hmmm.. I have been very satisfied with my RK kit.....Yes they did have some problems at first but they were very thourough in replacing parts I didnt think were going to have problems...as for flex...well ramps are for pussies but I will put my XJ up against ANY Rubicon kit for flex.......just my 02 cents worth...If you dont like it then:flipoff2:


FlexyXJ

There are still major problems. Look at this post:

http://jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=309739

Anyone weeled the tomken long arm kit? I have seen it advertised for the xj's but have never seen one. I have the 6" kit on my commanche and am satisfied with the durability.

Oh shit.....c'mon.....refering to a JU post??? All they care about over there is what kink of wax is the best for their jeeps....besides..look at the picture of the broken part....seems like whoever welded it should use a welder and not a flare and a coat hanger.....I have had NO problems with that part at all but then again I can weld...:rolleyes:


FlexyXJ98

RE Superflex works great :p

Originally posted by PIG
Full Traction. Their long arm is going to revealed @ SEMA next week. From what hear it is going to be the SHIT.

I run a RE long arm kit on mine and it will soon be modified. I'm currently at the SEMA show right now and here are my opinions for what they are worth.

Fabtech long arm: bling bling all the way. It's a bastardization of skyjacker and other various long arm kits. It seems like they took the worst of all of them and put them together. No adjustment except for cam bolts in the the front and nothing in the rear. The pinion angle is going to suck on this one.

Full Traction long arm: A very sophisticated kit with the usual assortment of brackets to bolt and weld on. The k-link steering reminds me of the typical setup on RC cars. Not to bad and I'm curious on how this will work. It looks like it's about 80% figured out.

Tera long arm: I never thought I'd say it, but Tera truly has outdone themsleves on this one. I'm not a fan of everything about this kit, but it actually looks like it might work well. You have your choice of joint types which is a big plus.

Well, thats about it,

Matt

Originally posted by XJ4EVER
There are still major problems. Look at this post:

http://jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=309739
that is an XJ thread he TuffTruck wants to put it on a TJ - which has its problems as well...I can go into detail:

Though I am vey satisfied with my kit - I do have gripes...

1. The front droops TOO far - when the drivers side is stuffed into the wheel well you CANNOT turn right - the tire.wheel hits the tracbar bracket

2. The rear wishbone utilizes stock UCA mounts that are flemsy as all get at...reinforce!

3. Many people who have installed this kit weld it WRONG...the problems arose from people who used one long weld bead and not sticth welds like instrucitons say...this link http://jeepsxtreme.com/jeep/billgross%20project/PB200120.JPG shows a long bead on the mount - NOT the correct way

4. The tracbar mount is VERY close the drivers side spring in the front - I actually had my spring caught on this while it was compressed and when the axle came down it unseated the spring and pulled out the retainer clip!

5. MAJOR PITA to re-torque the rear wishbones mounts on the diff...especially with a gas tank skid...I would suggest lock nuts on those 3 bolts

6. If you do a front axle swap you have to get a new front torque bar barcket because it is welded to the spring perch...residual income for RK???

I have had this kit for about 6 months now and wheel 2-3 times a month and I have not had ANY problems with hiems or driveline vibes...so my $.02 :flipoff2:

The XJ kits for the lower control arms use a mounting bracket for each lca - the TJ kit uses one piece brackets that self align with the tcase skid bolts...then welded. This setup is VERY stout and also uses the skid as a brace as well.'

Originally posted by FlexyXJ98
Oh shit.....c'mon.....refering to a JU post??? All they care about over there is what kink of wax is the best for their jeeps....besides..look at the picture of the broken part....seems like whoever welded it should use a welder and not a flare and a coat hanger.....I have had NO problems with that part at all but then again I can weld...:rolleyes:


FlexyXJ98

that pic also shows the bracket INTACT...the axle part is what peeled off...that shock mount area is what broke...NOT the bracket

Hello everyone. This is my first post here, but since i'm a poser from JU who only likes to talk about wax! (flexyxj98) :flipoff2: I won't bother to tell anyone the whole story about my past year of experience with RK. Or the fact that I haven't even washed my XJ on 38.5's in six months! (flexyxj98) :flipoff2: Or the fact that the weld on that mount was done at RK before i even owned the axle! It used to belong to Rick from RK! He had it welded on! (flexyxj98) :flipoff2: And I never said the bracket or the weld broke in that post! (benzo) :flipoff2:

I'm suppriesed more havent said it, fab that shiat yourself!!!!!

Hmmm so the wax post bothered you....:crybaby: deal with it.....It seems kind of funny that you bought the XJ from rick , seing how it belonged to jeremy... you know I am a newbie here too but I can deal with the posts so you need to also....if you cant then go back to JU......and your bling blue headlight bulbs....JU SUCKS!:flipoff:


Flexy

hey all you fag newbies shut the fuk up and go back to JU or start talkin tech.:rolleyes: who cares about what goes on over there.


I have the tomken Long arm set up and it is ok other then getting the wrong parts originaly and it took 2 months more to get the right ones so 4-5 months of total waiting time. After I weeded through the asshole peons and got a hold of the owner he fixed everything.I got my parts in 2 days along with a gift certificate for more products.

Next time I will go with RE though

Hey GPN... Does the tomken kit have long or short uppers?? Just wondering, because if it has the short uppers, I was wondering if you might have the same problem that a friend of mine had with the design. (long lowers and short uppers) on a TJ though...with the long lowers and the short uppers, as you brake, (or catch some air:D ) when the axle compresses EVENLY on both sides it will tend to increase positive caster because the LOWER arms travel in a longer arc, causing strange things to happen.....just wondering.....


Flexy:confused:

Flexyxj98, I don't own Jeremys xj asshole! I bought the front axle out of Rick's tj! Don't talk shit you don't know about! Nice to get such a warm welcome from a DICK! Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to the all knowing fuckin XJ god! Hello to everyone else who isn't going to be a prick.

By the way, Do I have the right attitude to be in this forum NOW? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by GPN Family
hey all you fag newbies shut the fuk up and go back to JU or start talkin tech.:rolleyes: who cares about what goes on over there.


I have the tomken Long arm set up and it is ok other then getting the wrong parts originaly and it took 2 months more to get the right ones so 4-5 months of total waiting time. After I weeded through the asshole peons and got a hold of the owner he fixed everything.I got my parts in 2 days along with a gift certificate for more products.

Next time I will go with RE though

I dont jump, so I dont know about that. But yes it is short uppers and long lowers. And I see what you are saying, I probabaly would do that. I have some binding that limits the travel as compared to like the RE kit. Tomken makes burl parts but they lack a little in the engineering dept., I think. As stated before I would go with a RE. The main thing that turns me off about rockcrawler is the trouble they had at first with the failures. I dont like the one torque arm design either. (only one upper control arm) While this might prevent some binding, I think it actually is tackling to much stress for one arm that is not centered to the stress load.(in the middle of the axle), anyways just my thoughts.


BTW- jeep94xj It dosen't matter if you can type foul language, what really counts is how much you know and how you chose to disclose that to us. Anyways go eat shit you :rainbow: :flipoff2:

That's why I'm here! To learn from, and help with what I can! Didn't expect to be getting bashed before I was even a member of this forum. Sorry if the language offended you, but that's what I was getting, so I gave it back. P.S. I just got married yesterday, and I'm not a :rainbow: I'm done with the 3 year old crap, and would like to start talkin tech!

:rolleyes:

Ok everybodys :rainbow: now we have established that. But I know the major problems with RK but they have seem to have taken care to fix these problems and looks like they dont give anybody crap about replacing stuff. Oh well maybe this will tell you all what kind of shit I put my jeep through see the dust thats my needle bearings :flipoff2: C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\Online Services\U joint1.jpg C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\Online Services\U jiont3.jpg C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\Online Services\U jiont2.jpg

it's all in the spring rate not mainly the length of the shock that makes is softer. RE IMO

i put in my VOTE:p :laughing: