: Project to heavy 91 Cummins
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 10:20 PM Well it's about time I start a build thread so here it is.
I bought a 91 Dodge Cummins 3/4 ton about 5 years ago. Truck used to be my daily driver. Four years ago I moved to town and became self employed. Now it sits more than it drives. Felt like a good time to start building.
This is not a rock crawler, and I'm not a fan of pushing the limit till stuff breaks. I'm building this for off the beaten path exploration. I like going in comfort where most take their sled / quad.
In the end I intend to make this rig 6x6 on rockwells or portals, but first steps first....
The last few years of pics.
Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 10:24 PM What this truck is being built for.
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A friend and I spent a week out there that winter. Pics taken on Cross Lake Alberta Canada.
Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 10:35 PM Pics of fixing the heater core leak. I wound up redoing the whole cooling system.
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Pics of the rad in my 93 parts truck. It turned out to be no good also.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 10:45 PM Installing the new heater core in the heater box.
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Big hole in the fire wall with out the heater box installed.
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No rad.
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Figured I'd remove the mechanical clutch fan while I had room to work.
Trying to free the 32mm left thread clutch fan nut.
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That did not work. I also tried using a strap wrench with no luck. I finally removed two of the 10mm hub bolts and used my angle grinder wrench to hold it.
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Also tried a chisel and hammer. All that did was this.
Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 10:48 PM Ready for the scrap pile. Maybe now the truck will warm up properly in winter.
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All done, just have to rehook the coolant lines.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 11:03 PM Figured I'd replace the serpentine belt while I was at it. Also replaced the tensioner pulley.
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Got tired of ruining my knuckles.
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New belt on.
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Fired it up only to have a brand new serpentine belt start to squeal and smoke. After installing and removing the belt about 16 times, spinning every pulley on the truck by hand, removed and inspected the fan pulley, I still could not find the problem. I even removed the water pump. Also there were aluminum bits everywhere. Finally one of the 10mm fan hub bolts that I thought had fallen on the ground dropped into the front cross member. The treads on it were all chewed up. I still don't know where it was stuck.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 11:14 PM Cleaned up my battery terminals a bit. There were lots of frayed wires everywhere.
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I found this 79 ford one ton while driving tow truck a year ago. Finally went back and bout it for $150.
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Towing it home behind my dodge on a strap. It was only 4 miles out of town on a dirt road.
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Striped the flat deck off and sold it to the neighbor for $150.
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Kept the deck for my truck. It's made out of 3" square tube for the main supports and 2" by 3/16 for the rest.
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Just needs a sandblasting, and some 2x6 to redeck it.
Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 11:27 PM Blew a Selectro Hub while out Ice fishing last winter. Could not find any on the net for the 35 spline external hub that attaches with 8 bolts. So I had these made by my local welding shop. The flange was cut on the water jet from 3/8” mild steel. The splined part is from the hub. Then they welded both peaces together on both sides.
Since then I found a few I could have ordered for cheaper than it cost to make thease.
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Needed something to keep the dirt out of my hubs while not running the drive flanges, so I made these. Used epoxy to glue a pipe cap in the outer aluminum part of the hub.
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You can see where the aluminum splines sheered off inside the poorly made hub. I can't beleave they are made this way.
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I added a grease nipple to pump it full of grease rather than use RTV evertime I do the swap.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 11:33 PM I wanted to see what it was going to take to make my new trail tires fit my truck 18.4 x 16.1 ag tires, so I installed one on my spare frame from a 93 of the same truck. With 2" backspacing I get within 1/4" of stock steering lock, and will only need about 6" of lift if I move the front diff 7" to 8" forward. Frame is jacked up in the pic. Spring keepers have been cut and the upper shock bolt removed to allow drop. Stock ride height was 1/2" from the bump stops and had no flex at all.
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A re-center job I did for measurement sake. I will probably use it for a spare when I get my centers cut out of 3/8”.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-08-2010, 11:58 PM I went to change my air filter and sand dumped out of it. The stock position for the air intake was under the pass headlight. This had to change. So off to the ag wrecker to get a air box and a dust bowl. Both came to $150 with a new bowl for the dust bowl.
This air box is off a massey ferguson combine with a cat diesel much larger than my 5.9 Cummins. It has a primary and a secondary filter all in this box. Filters cost what a stock one did, and can be cleaned at the local parts place for $23.
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It will not work in it’s stock form. Once mounted under the hood there would be no room to remove the filters and both the inlet and outlet are on one end. The reworking begins.
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I could not find the right size hole saw in my little town, so I did this.
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The outlet to the turbo now fits in the lid. Both filters will now mount on the lid. Intake will be on the opposite end.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:01 AM The rest of the airbox pics. Pirate will only do 10 at a time.
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Where it will mount when done.
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I haven't welded it all back together yet. I'm waiting till I rebuild my wheel wells.
Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:07 AM The last time the truck will look like this.
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Started cutting.
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Doing this made it much easier to get to the bolts.
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Test fitting
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:13 AM I hate high lift jacks. This is my new $800 rad.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:19 AM I begun cutting the old spring hangers off.
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nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:22 AM Wheel wells and old spring hardware gone.
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nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:31 AM Last time you will see a steering box in my truck. It was leaking out the input shaft seal because I hit a curb doing about 70 km/h on icy roads.
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I scored some new rubber. 4 like new firestone 21.5 x 16.1 ag tires fror $1000. They are $1200 each new.
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18.4 x 16.1 on the left. Will now be my trail spare.
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21.5 x 18.1 on the left, 18.4 x 16.1 on the right. The 21.5’s are about 22” wide, the 18.4 is about 18” wide. They are both about 45” tall with 5 psi in them.
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nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:49 AM This is what my new headlight bezels will be made of. It’s 3/16” aluminum checker plate.
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I ground out the three rivets holding the upper front spring shackle mount to see what shape it was in.
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I had to drill pilot holes in the remaining part of the rivets to get them to pound out.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:51 AM Looked fine so I bolted it back in with some grade 8 bolts. I got them tight, then tack welded the treads so they could never back out
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I ground this bolt down to clear the long sweep of the new 8" shackles.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 12:59 AM Old shackles were 5.5” long and 1.5” by ¼” thick. New ones are 8” long and 2” wide by 3/8” thick. Cost without drill bits $3. Tack welded them together to round the corners and drill the holes. ½” on the frame end, and 9/16 on the spring end.
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Stock shackle in with the new.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 01:13 AM Begun making some front spring hangers from scratch. It takes to long to get stuff shipped here from the US. Used 3” od box tubing by 3/16 thick. This have me 2.75” id which fit the spring bushing perfectly. The springs needed in the front ¾” bolt holes.
I will be using 2000 Ford F-150 rear springs up front. They are 56” long, with the center pin at 27” to the short side. Stock springs were 48”. This will put my front diff the 8” forward I was looking for. I didn’t know how much they would compress with the weight of the Cummins on them, so I made multiple holes in the front hanger.
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nat_ster 10-09-2010, 01:18 AM In order to use the longer ford springs, and move my front diff forward 8”, I needed to move my front spring hanger as far forward as I could. So I welded the original stock bumper hangers in place. The extends the frame about 8”.
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I welded every seem, just don't have anymore pics. Also 5 bolts pass through both the frame pieces so they are definitely solid.
Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 01:28 AM It was time to see how the spring would do with the weight on them. I did a quick temporary mount and hung the springs for the first time.
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Front diff ready to roll back under.
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Partial weight on them.
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nat_ster 10-09-2010, 01:41 AM With all the weight on them my shackle is at to much of a angle. I need to move the front one hole forward. I now have 6” between the bump stop and the spring where there used to be ½”. I can lift the front about 10” before the tires come off the ground.
I still need to do a lot of fender trimming.
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I think I will add one more leaf out of a spare pack I got to each side. Now it’s time to pull the front diff again, and build a proper front spring hanger.
Temporary hanger gone.
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Beginning of the new hanger. 4” x 4” x 3/8” angle Iron. I would have liked 5” but this will do.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 01:47 AM Front spring hanger parts getting ready to weld together. Once again all from scratch.
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Starting to add peaces. Each side will be held on with 8 5/8" grade 8 bolts.
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Welding a few together.
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Nat
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Tacked, making sure it all lines up.
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New shackle angle without front diff.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 02:00 AM http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6289.jpg
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Nat
nat_ster 10-09-2010, 09:56 AM Took it off to do the burn in, rather than try to weld up side down.
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When I took it off to weld up, my daughter and I had to beat it back on with a 4 pound hammer. It's definitely a tight fitting peace. Best part is it's all bolt on, so when I get my Rockwell's, or portals, and go one link, it all comes off. Then some one else can bolt it on.
There are two more gussets, a 2" receiver, and 2 D ring mounts left to to weld on and that part is done.
I was hoping to get the front diff back on today, but the small town I live in is imposable to get metric bolts. Now I'm hooped for the long weekend. To make matters worse I have a lot to do, and not many days of good weather left.
Off to bed for me, it's almost 4:00 in the morning.
Nat
nat_ster 10-10-2010, 07:09 PM I got the last two gussets welded in the front bumper / spring hanger, and all the bolts in. 8 bolts hold each side on. 1 in the top, 1 in the bottom, and 6 in the side.
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6362.jpg
This come in the mail today. 3/8 outer ring with counter bored holes, ¼ for the rest. Raised fill plug for more capacity, and a drain plug.
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Drain plug.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-10-2010, 07:29 PM The poison of the front diff will not be permanent. When I change to portals, or rockwells I will be moving it ahead another 12” or so. To keep from building wheel wells and fender flairs twice, I figured I’d make the clearance now.
Marked out for cutting.
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The headlights will need to be raised 2”.
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The coolant overflow bottle will need to be raised or moved.
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Headlights will also need to be moved ahead 1.25” to mate up with the new aluminum checker plate headlight bezels.
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Nat
8APrius 10-10-2010, 07:31 PM Cummins ------------ Approved!
"Jackstands"--------- Scary as hell :evil:
AG Tires-------------- Approved!
Icy Locaiton---------- Nasty :barf:
Looks like you come out even!
Do you have a personal photographer? Geez you take a lot of pictures :laughing:
nat_ster 10-10-2010, 07:41 PM The cutting begins.
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To keep everything from shifting all over the place, I needed to fill this hole before going further.
Some scrap steel the right thickness.
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Marked out two 8” x 10” peaces.
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Cut out.
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Peace welded in, finishing the cut.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-10-2010, 07:50 PM Cummins ------------ Approved!
"Jackstands"--------- Scary as hell :evil:
AG Tires-------------- Approved!
Icy Locaiton---------- Nasty :barf:
Looks like you come out even!
Do you have a personal photographer? Geez you take a lot of pictures :laughing:
Jackstands are massive peaces of firewood under the transmission crossmember. Rear tires are still on the ground. You can try to shake and push this truck all day, and it won't move. Vary stable.
For years I've been reading build threads and realy enjoy the detail in pics. So I make sure to take as many as I can. And yes, sometimes my 14 year old daughter takes pics for me.
Nat
nat_ster 10-10-2010, 08:00 PM Rebuilding the structural integrity with 1.25” angle iron.
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Inside.
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I might still be able to get this above the wheel well.
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This won’t be needed anymore.
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That’s all for today. It started raining and I had to pack up the tools.
Nat
Flatdeck6.2 10-11-2010, 10:44 PM Looks like you moved your axle pretty far forward. What are you doing for a front driveshaft? Im lovin the ag tires, wish I could get them around here.
nat_ster 10-13-2010, 07:24 PM Looks like you moved your axle pretty far forward. What are you doing for a front driveshaft? Im lovin the ag tires, wish I could get them around here.
I moved the front diff approximately 8" forward. Did it for a few reasons, to transfer some of that heavy Cummins weight to the back, but mainly to get tire clearance without lifting the truck to high.
For a front shaft, I have one out of a 70's power ram. The power ram shaft stock was 4" longer, has much nicer / longer slip splines than the Cummins shaft, but has the wrong u joint on the diff end. I'm going to cut the wrong u joint off, turn it up on a lathe, and have a driveline shop retube the diff end. Because I'm doing most the work it should be under $100.
I'll post some pics of the two in a few days. Right now I'm building C-can / shipping container loading docks.
Nat
nat_ster 10-13-2010, 07:51 PM Been busy working so I haven’t got much done. I still have to go pull a few bolts for the front springs from the wrecking yard before I can mount the front diff for the second last time.
I set my spare tire there for a look.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-17-2010, 05:28 PM A few pics of the front drive shafts I will be cutting up to make the one I need 8” longer.
The top shaft is from a 70’s Dodge power wagon. It had a NP 203, but T case end is the same as the Cummins shaft. The diff end is the smaller 1310 u joint. This joint will be cut off.
Bottom shaft with the blue tape is the stock first gen Cummins shaft. Diff end has the 1350 u joint.
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Power wagon shaft still on top.
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Length of the stock Cummins shaft.
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Length of the stock power wagon shaft.
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Amount of spline on the Cummins shaft 3.25”
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Amount of spline on the power wagon shaft 5.5”.
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You can see in the last two pics the difference in the splines. The Cummins shaft is almost imposable to get to slide, no grease fitting, and lacks length of slip. The power wagon shaft slides easily, has a grease fitting, and has 2.25” more slip spline available.
The plan is to cut the small u joint of the power wagon shaft and use a peace of DOM to attach the 1350 u joint from the Cummins shaft to the power wagon shaft. Get better / more slip, better splines, and the longer shaft I need.
Nat
Mud rat 10-17-2010, 06:00 PM before you say something on another 4x4 website, that you say about their build. this is the worst I have see. this is no way that I ll drive. keep that in your back yard.
nat_ster 10-17-2010, 06:06 PM before you say something on another 4x4 website, that you say about their build. this is the worst I have see. this is no way that I ll drive. keep that in your back yard.
Thanks for your feed back. I hope you stay where you are too. You obviously lack vision. This rig is on three other forums, and gets nothing but thumbs up. Is it because it has a little rust? I own a sandblaster, but I'm not going to waste time making it pretty till I get it all built. Then I will take it all apart, sandblast, and paint.
What have you built?
Nat
nat_ster 10-17-2010, 06:17 PM Ahh now I see what your problem is. Your one of the BC4x4 boys. You better stay where you are if you know whats good for you. I find you on the trail, I'll drive right over what you drive!!
Nat
zukitoon 10-21-2010, 01:44 PM Nice built, any updates?
nat_ster 10-21-2010, 10:00 PM I’m adding one more leaf to the F-150 pack on each side from a spare pack I have. Because I had to cut the old spring bands off, I figured I’d make some up that allow more drop in the springs. I started with 3x3 square tube. Cut it into some 1.5” peaces, and cut the side off. Drilled a 3/8” hole to fasten them to the hole in the spring.
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I welded a 3/8” bolt in the hole. They were originally from the XJ project that I lost interest in. At only 2.75” tall they need to be extended, so I added some 3/16.
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Then I welded them to the spring.
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And after doing that I figured I’d weld the other side. I’ve never saw anyone weld to a spring before, but even if it compromised the strength, I would only loose 2” off the end of that leaf.
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6430.jpg
Nat
nat_ster 10-21-2010, 10:20 PM The main reason I didn’t get this done over a week ago is because I couldn’t get a longer metric shackle bolt in the small town I live in. I tried to get them from the Ford dealership, but even at $12 a bolt I had to wait a week and a half. So yesterday I went to the wrecking yard and pulled 2 out of a F-150 that had 3” wide springs. My spring are only 2.5” wide. Now I have the ½” longer bolts I needed to allow the shackle to clear the hanger rivets to the frame at full sweep.
Old and new. 2.5 wide, and 3” wide lower shackle bolts.
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Springs back under the truck again hanging by their own weight.
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Front diff U-bolted back on and hanging.
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Perfect.
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Shackle angle with diff hanging.
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At full stuff.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-22-2010, 05:55 PM Shackle angle at ride height.
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Front view at ride height. Nose is pointed up due to the back still sitting at stock height.
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Tire turned within 3/16” of full lock tire rubs on spring. Will have to adjust the steering stops.
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Looking strait with the front bumper. Tire is almost strait with the front.
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3/16” from lock to passenger side.
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Again looking strait with the front bumper.
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Tires Strait.
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Looking strait with the front bumper. You can now see my final approach angle. There is 8” between the cutout fender and the tire at ride height.
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Some numbers. Front diff is 7” forward from original position.
8.5” between the bumpstops and the top of the leaf spring where there used to be ½”
8” between the cutout fender and the tire at ride height.
4.5” from the front of the tire to the front of the bumper.
With 10 psi in the tire, it was 64” to the top of the hood.
14” to the bottom of the pumpkin.
18” to the bottom of the axle tube.
I need to find two more f-150 leaf packs and harvest the top leaf from each pack. Then I will cut off the ends, and add it to the packs. That will allow me to remove the bottom leaf that is 1/2" thick for more articulation on full stuff.
Nat
driver351 10-24-2010, 09:15 PM how much lift in total do you think you will have?
I like the progress:mr-t:
nat_ster 10-24-2010, 09:25 PM how much lift in total do you think you will have?
I like the progress:mr-t:
There used to be 1/2" between the bump stops and the top of the leaf spring. I think from factory there would have been about 2". I now have about 8.5" between the bump stops and the top of the leaf spring, so by that I think I have about 6" of real lift.
Thanks for looking
Nat
87yotabro87 10-24-2010, 09:53 PM im likin where this is goin. good work man
nat_ster 10-31-2010, 10:07 PM I took a pic of my goal ride height.
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6460.jpg
24” to bottom of transfer case skid plate.
29” to lowest point of the frame, right behind the transfer case, center of the truck.
I’m going one link suspension in the back with 10” airbags from a transport truck. Now I’m waiting for the joint 360, and the panhard bar joints to arrive. First I have to decide what route I’m taking to reinforce the frame from under the center of the cab back. The front will eventually have a full cage.
Nat
nat_ster 10-31-2010, 10:23 PM Here are a few pics of what’s been taking my time away from my build. Been doing some fabrication of a different kind. Refurbishing C-can shipping containers, and mounting them on skids for the oilfield.
Start with two peaces of 10” 28 pounds a foot, wide flange I beam 58’ long.
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A few close ups for the weld nazi’s. My old lincoln pipeliner can still lay a decent bead.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-31-2010, 10:34 PM A few peaces of 5” sch 80 pipe 8.5’ long and the skid starts to take shape.
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Some black paint, and my helper grabs it off the saw horse’s with the forklift, and set’s it on the ground.
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Nat
nat_ster 10-31-2010, 10:41 PM In the back ground you can see the two c-cans I already sandblasted, and repainted. Each c-can takes 8 hours to blast with a 200hp, skid mounted, 1” line sandblaster. Paint takes 4 hours more.
One c-can has the side cut out for a mobile loading dock.
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6482.jpg
Nat
time bandit 11-02-2010, 10:58 AM looks like the footprint for that container skid is pretty small for the soft stuff, nice build for boggin. and good progress.
nat_ster 11-02-2010, 04:55 PM looks like the footprint for that container skid is pretty small for the soft stuff, nice build for boggin. and good progress.
Thanks.
Around here all the skids are used on top of rig matting on the oil leases.
Nat
YJ_and_Corey 11-02-2010, 11:04 PM Thanks.
Around here all the skids are used on top of rig matting on the oil leases.
Nat
Hey, cool build man. I could use a truck like you are building at work when it gets muddy as hell :)
I'm in GP...
Anyhow, you should PM me a price for one of those refurbished cans mounted on a skid. I need something like that for secure storage out at my quarter.
Thanks
Corey
Apimpdad 11-05-2010, 04:23 PM This thread was linked through the ghetto fab thread, but I don't think it is ghetto fab at all. Keep up the good work. I still used a flux core wire too :D
nat_ster 11-05-2010, 05:03 PM This thread was linked through the ghetto fab thread, but I don't think it is ghetto fab at all. Keep up the good work. I still used a flux core wire too :D
Thanks.
Nat
I still used a flux core wire too :D
In a lot of situations it’s a better choice than using shielding gas from a bottle, and it burns hotter than its gassed cousin too.
bull90 11-07-2010, 04:47 PM A re-center job I did for measurement sake. I will probably use it for a spare when I get my centers cut out of 3/8”.
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_4229.jpg
Nat
im putting some 20" Tractor rims and Tires on my Mazda whats the bolt pattern for the rim? i know its 9 bolt. what did you do to get these tires mounted to your 8 bolt dana60?
1980Jimmy 11-07-2010, 04:53 PM how far north of edmonton are you?
nat_ster 11-10-2010, 06:56 PM im putting some 20" Tractor rims and Tires on my Mazda whats the bolt pattern for the rim? i know its 9 bolt. what did you do to get these tires mounted to your 8 bolt dana60?
All I did was turn the ag rim around so it was the right backspace, around 4", weld the old valve stem hole shut, and drill a new one. Then I cut the center out of a regular 8 lug rim that was 3/16" thick. After that I bolted the cut out center to the back diff of my truck with it jacked up. With the truck in low range and first gear, I used a 7" grinder to get the center as close to perfect as I could. Then I centered it, tacked it into the ag rim, and spun it again. With a bit of bumping with a hammer, I got it to less than 1/8th" of runout. After welding both sides, I spun it again.
Basically used a getto lathe to make sure it would not wobble to bad.
This will only be a trail spare. With in the next few days my new 3/8th" thick centers will be arriving. I got them from the USA. If I need more stuff done, I found a place in BC Canada that will do them for a good price. It will also save me having to wait forever, and pay ridiculous brokerage fee's.
The best way to mount them would be to get a set of Staz Works double bead locks. But at 17" wide, they would run about $3500 by the time they made it to my door.
Nat
nat_ster 11-10-2010, 06:59 PM how far north of edmonton are you?
45 minutes.
Nat
driver351 11-12-2010, 12:58 AM Here is my solution to the rims.
Stock Chevy 16 x 6 rims with a 8 inch wide band added to them. DIY 4x4 beadlocks.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/dak360/bl.jpg
Here is how I went about modding the rims.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8032767&postcount=21
nat_ster 11-12-2010, 09:08 AM Good job on the rims driver351.
That was the first way I figured on doing it; but with how heavy my rig is, I figured I'd stick with the ag rims for $75 each.
After splitting your rims like that, with one more cnc plasma cut ring, you could have made a two peace double beadlock without adding any more weight.
Do you still have the dodge dakota, and the full size dodge?
Your rig looks sweet by the way. Good solid Canadian unit. I would love to tear up the cutlines with you some time on the way to a lake with monster sized fish!!
Nat
driver351 11-12-2010, 10:25 AM Ive still got the dak, Its not done yet. Sitting at a friends farm waiting for attention. I Want it in my home garage by Dec 1st.:D
nat_ster 11-23-2010, 09:25 PM The last two things I ordered from the US 3 months ago finally arrived.
First was the beadlocks. Plain simple ¼” 16” steel, 30 bolt weld on’s. Shipping said 65 pounds for all 8 rings. They arrived with 2 bolts with lock nuts holding all 8 rings together. The cuts are all clean, and line up perfectly. I ordered plain so I could wash / clean the crap out of my rims easier.
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Then, 3 weeks later, the rim centers arrived. 3/8th” thick, 13.3/8” diameter, 6 hole, 8 lug, with tapered lug holes to fit in the 17” wide ag rims that are patiently waiting. Just like the beadlocks they come held together with two bolts through all 4 of them. Shipping weight was 42 pounds. Cutting is is so perfect, you can’t see a difference in the holes, with them laying flat, all lined up. The only imperfection was a small tick in the center hole where they started, or finished cutting. The center hole is so close to the size of the outside of the hub, that there is almost no side load on the lug nuts. A small tick with the grinder, and they slip right on.
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Nat
nat_ster 11-23-2010, 09:50 PM A few more pics of work I’ve done this summer.
This building is made of 3 sizes of scrap oilfield pipe. 2.3/8th”, 5”, and 8”. The building is 600’ long, and 120’ wide. The customer stores grain, and farm equipment inside it.
My truck shows the size of the building.
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Inside
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The rafters we build out of the 2.3/8th” pipe that span 60’.
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On the right of this pic are the center of the building supports. The 8” pipe.
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Nat
nat_ster 11-23-2010, 09:57 PM This one we built 3 years ago. 25’ x 40’. A much simpler design.
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The way we secured the roof tarp on.
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Nat
nat_ster 11-23-2010, 10:03 PM A bridge we built 2 years ago. Again all scrap oilfield pipe. All pipe was notched with the handheld plasma. This one was painted with Endura, the toughest paint I’ve ever used.
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Nat
nat_ster 11-23-2010, 10:09 PM Scrap prices are the best they have been here in 10 years. Took the time to clean up a few of these. I only moved this one 7km, and it paid $150 at the crusher.
This one got hung up coming over the live roller. So I backed it into a tree till I could winch it on the rest of the way.
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Nat
wahlstrom1 11-24-2010, 05:48 AM So..... what did it cost to built that building?
nat_ster 11-24-2010, 07:05 PM So..... what did it cost to built that building?
I don't know. I only subcontracted as a welder under the general contractor. What I do know is this type of structure cost less than half of what it would cost using I-Beam. It took just under 2 months of me, and my Lincoln Pipeliner laying rod 12 hours a day. I was one of two welders on the project.
The pipe is sold at actions as scrap. It can be bought for as little as $40 to $80 a joint. Joint's are 30 feet long. If you had the time, you could feed the info into say Solid Works, or Bend Tech and it would tell you how much pipe you would need. Then figure out your outside square footage, and price out the tin are your local building supply. With that you would have a ballpark cost without labor, and the cost to have it engineered.
Nat
wahlstrom1 11-25-2010, 05:48 AM Good to know, thanks for the info. I'm kinda interested in something like the hay shed, building a small(er) shop and tinning/spray foaming it.
gutt_72 11-25-2010, 09:08 PM After seeing what kind of shape tubing is usually in before it's deemed scrap, the term 'structural steel' doesn't come to mind. :flipoff2:
nat_ster 11-25-2010, 09:23 PM After seeing what kind of shape tubing is usually in before it's deemed scrap, the term 'structural steel' doesn't come to mind. :flipoff2:
Never had a problem with it here. That big building was engineered by a engineer. Pipe was inspected by him before the building permit was given. Look at the way that building is made, 1 of 3 trusses could fail, and the stucture would still hold. It's by far over built.
Thanks for looking.
Nat
78fordf150ranger 11-27-2010, 10:01 PM I hate to Ask But you said your a welder??? What CWB'S you currently hold? Cause judging by some of those welds Im gonna guess None.
nat_ster 11-27-2010, 10:17 PM I hate to Ask But you said your a welder??? What CWB'S you currently hold? Cause judging by some of those welds Im gonna guess None.
Hi my name is Austin,im 16 years old and am a kinda newbie to 4x4ing,i am a apprenticing tool and die maker and am wanting to get a BIG old burban
Ah, finally a 16 year old weld Natzy
I hold no tickets for anything. I just do what ever I can with the tools I have that pays. I do far to many different things to worry about certifications.
What weld you referring to?
Nat
78fordf150ranger 11-27-2010, 10:53 PM Here are a few pics of what’s been taking my time away from my build. Been doing some fabrication of a different kind. Refurbishing C-can shipping containers, and mounting them on skids for the oilfield.
Start with two peaces of 10” 28 pounds a foot, wide flange I beam 58’ long.
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A few close ups for the weld nazi’s. My old lincoln pipeliner can still lay a decent bead.
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Nat
Alot of those welds are fairly ugly and make me wonder how good of an idea it is for you to be welding structural steel and Putting up buildings, welding your own junk fine,weld fails and kills you, your fault. Weld Fails On building and Kills someone Not alright,
nat_ster 11-27-2010, 11:01 PM Stay in school son, I have a daughter as old as you. Your trying to act more knowledgeable than you relay are. Just because this is PBB, it don't make you a welding inspector.
Engineer's pass my welds job after job. There is nothing wrong with the looks, or penetration of any of the pics.
Thanks for looking son. I'll see you on the trail when you finally get a rig.
Nat
78fordf150ranger 11-28-2010, 09:05 AM Wow you found some 5 year old posts. Im 21 been welding for a number of years, your welds Aren't up to Par and you shouldn't be puting up structual steel with out a Valid CWB endorsement. Im a weld supervisor for the steel erection company i work for i over see 15 welders. Make sure that the welds will Pass the visual inspection and The radiograph(X-Ray) inspection.
And just Cause an Engineer passed it dosen't say shit! they Design they don't look at welds they look at drawing and make sure its done according to what they have designed.
And you welding to Spring steel weld thats just stupid. Its Hardend so now you have fatigued the steel by Putting that much heat into it, and took the Temper out of the steel and changed the grain structure. How would you Go about welding a Truck frame???
i may be 21, But ive done the schooling on welding and worked in this field for a number of years
cj7sswampers 11-28-2010, 09:24 AM Woah man, I'd be careful about taking that on the ice! I guess its thick enough, but :eek:
cj7sswampers 11-28-2010, 09:31 AM Wow you found some 5 year old posts. Im 21 been welding for a number of years, your welds Aren't up to Par and you shouldn't be puting up structual steel with out a Valid CWB endorsement. Im a weld supervisor for the steel erection company i work for i over see 15 welders. Make sure that the welds will Pass the visual inspection and The radiograph(X-Ray) inspection.
And just Cause an Engineer passed it dosen't say shit! they Design they don't look at welds they look at drawing and make sure its done according to what they have designed.
And you welding to Spring steel weld thats just stupid. Its Hardend so now you have fatigued the steel by Putting that much heat into it, and took the Temper out of the steel and changed the grain structure. How would you Go about welding a Truck frame???
i may be 21, But ive done the schooling on welding and worked in this field for a number of years
How many? I count 2 max. Because 3 years ago you were in high school.:laughing:
78fordf150ranger 11-28-2010, 04:35 PM started when i was 17 years old.
nat_ster 11-28-2010, 04:48 PM Woah man, I'd be careful about taking that on the ice! I guess its thick enough, but :eek:
Yep, it was thick. That pic was taken in late march of last winter. We had 24" of ice.
I'm always relay careful when it comes to ice. Before driving onto it, I always measure the thickness. Then if it's in question, every 200 yards or so. I also be mindful of beaver houses, stream inlets ect.
Every year around here, someone makes that cost all mistake, and drops a truck into a lake. It sends chills through me every time I go out out on the ice.
Nat
yellowk20 11-28-2010, 04:50 PM started when i was 17 years old.
Lay your best bead and take a picture with sign next to it saying Pirate 4x4 and post it up. until then take your punk ass out of dudes build thread with your know it all attitude.
his welds aren't all that pretty, ( not that mine are any better) but obviously there good enough for him to make his living as a welder
nat_ster 11-28-2010, 04:55 PM started when i was 17 years old.
Kid, go away. I and others don't care how long you have been a weld inspector in your fairytale world. People like you that can't tell what a unit bearing is, don't become weld inspectors at 21.
You probably have learned a lot in the last 3 years, be proud of your self for that. However, bullshitting will only stop, or slow your self from learning. Do your self a favor, Don't make that mistake.
Now go brag in shit chat or in your own thread. This one is mine. Good by.
Nat
nat_ster 12-16-2010, 11:36 PM I finally took a day to get moving on my rims. My goal is to get the rims sandblasted, weld centers in, the beadlocks on, paint, and mount my tires before Christmas. This I will be doing in a friends shop with all the tools I’ll need, for $25 a hour. Tools include a 8 foot lathe, 12 foot sheer, 12 foot bending break, 350 ton press, about 5 good mig welders, 2 tig welders, ect. I got a good start so far.
The way the rims looked when I brought them home. 17” bead to bead. Two are just blank shells; two have old centers, that need to be cut out.
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The two blank shells.
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Next I rough cut the old centers out with the plasma cutter.
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Nat
nat_ster 12-16-2010, 11:50 PM Finished grinding out the remains of the old center. Also used a torch to heat and straiten a bend on the bead.
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Sitting out in 2” of the 18” of snow we got the last 2 days, ready for me to start sandblasting.
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With the sandblasting done, I started welding on the beadlocks inner ring.
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Nat
nat_ster 12-16-2010, 11:55 PM http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6671.jpg
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One more for the weld nazi’s. This is with a $4800 miller mig welder.
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Beadlock all welded up, and ground smooth. Edges flap wheeled smooth to prevent cutting into the tire bead. Ready for the first coat of primer.
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Nat
nat_ster 12-17-2010, 12:05 AM http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6677.jpg
Center tacked in at 3.25” backspacing. Although I did some vary careful measuring, I’m still not 100% sure this is right. I’ll have to mount the tire, make sure I can turn lock to lock before I finish welding it solid.
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Then I gave it a shot of rustoleum primer. The freshly sandblasted steel, still warm from welding, soaked the primer right up.
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Nat
8APrius 12-17-2010, 05:19 PM Note To Self: Buy $4800 TIG :smokin:
Tool7D 01-03-2011, 01:34 AM I love the build. I am courious about the pinion angle on the front axle. It appears to be pointing down at a "less than prefered" angle. I can't tell on the pics with the tires on, whether or not it has changed. Have you corrected it, or will it work out OK considering you have the axle sitting 8 inches forward?
JOSH
nat_ster 01-04-2011, 06:47 PM I love the build. I am courious about the pinion angle on the front axle. It appears to be pointing down at a "less than prefered" angle. I can't tell on the pics with the tires on, whether or not it has changed. Have you corrected it, or will it work out OK considering you have the axle sitting 8 inches forward?
JOSH
Good eye.
The front pinion angle is sitting at the factory setting, somewhere around 4 degrees I think.
Even with the extra 8", the front pinion will need to be pointed up at the t-case front output. To do that, I need to grind off my inner C's. Most C's are only welded on the side of the tube, not the end. Both the ones I have are welded in both, making it almost imposable to grind them off without destroying them. At this point I have to decide whether to chop up my spare Dana 60 for the inner C's; or order some Reid Racing C's with a price tag of around $700 to my door.
When my work slows down, I'm going to see if I can get a local shop with a big lathe to cut the welds out. Then I should be able to turn the c"s with heat, dry Ice, and a BFH.
Nat
nat_ster 01-04-2011, 07:15 PM After a few months of sitting in the snow, I decided to sweep it off, and shovel all the snow back for easier tire installation.
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After.
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Nat
nat_ster 01-04-2011, 07:21 PM The difference between a 18.4 x 16.1 on a 11” bead to bead rim, with 4” back spacing.
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/IMG_6454.jpg
And a 21.5 x 16.1 on a 17” bead to bead rim, with 3.25” back spacing.
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Nat
Tool7D 01-07-2011, 09:30 PM Wow. Thats a huge difference. I like it.
One issue you may have with the front pinion angle is the passenger side spring perch. Being that it is part of the carrier housing ( not to mention the retarded studs) it will require some "backyard enginering". The drivers side perch is easy to remove and rotate on the axle housing, but that pass side will be interesting.
I've been trying to figure out a simple way to accomplish it for awhile, but its been put on the back burner for a few years. I may just give in and mod a chevy axle to work, sinse they dont have studs.
JOSH
Laynez71 01-17-2011, 03:39 PM Badass build, glad im not the only person on this website with ice fishing on the brain. I have a 03 sierra on 35's I use for now but im building a 2 door yukon with snow wheeling in mind as I spend every weekend of the season on the ice and then some.
What are you guys catching up there? Lakers, pike and whites? If your ever down in southern sask I can set you up on some deadly walleye, pike, perch and burbot fishing.
Cheers
Layne
bpas328xi 01-25-2011, 05:45 PM How old are you as of right now?
nat_ster 01-25-2011, 07:54 PM Wow. Thats a huge difference. I like it.
One issue you may have with the front pinion angle is the passenger side spring perch. Being that it is part of the carrier housing ( not to mention the retarded studs) it will require some "backyard enginering". The drivers side perch is easy to remove and rotate on the axle housing, but that pass side will be interesting.
I've been trying to figure out a simple way to accomplish it for awhile, but its been put on the back burner for a few years. I may just give in and mod a chevy axle to work, sinse they dont have studs.
JOSH
With how busy work has been for me, I think when I get back to this in the spring, I'm going one link front and rear. No more leaf springs; air bags front and back.
Here is a link to where I found my specs and part numbers.
http://www.truckspring.com/suspension-parts/firestone-air-bags/heavy-duty-truck/reversible-sleeve-air-springs.aspx?sortorder=1&page=10
Badass build, glad im not the only person on this website with ice fishing on the brain. I have a 03 sierra on 35's I use for now but im building a 2 door yukon with snow wheeling in mind as I spend every weekend of the season on the ice and then some.
What are you guys catching up there? Lakers, pike and whites? If your ever down in southern sask I can set you up on some deadly walleye, pike, perch and burbot fishing.
Cheers
Layne
Where I go we catch pike, perch, and walleye. When the truck is done I want to go for some nice northern Alberta / NWT Lake Trout fishing.
How old are you as of right now?
How old are you? You all butthurt because no one loves your stock ford. Start a build thread for all the "mods" you have done.:flipoff2:
Nat
thewanderer 01-26-2011, 07:03 PM Thats going to be a bad ass rig dude.
I wouldn't put a second of thought into anything some pu**y on a forum says about your welds. Anyone that talks s**t like that has never built anything worth looking at.
daKota9 01-30-2011, 09:03 PM I hope you remembered to to fix the killer dowel pin....
nokian 01-31-2011, 02:39 PM Yeah I agree about the comments about your welding. I actually am an engineer and have inspected welds along side certified inspectors and have developed and re-certified welding procedures for both CWB and ASME codes for a very respectable Mechanical contracting and fabrication contracting company.
People like that should just keep their negative comments to themselves. I think your welds look fine given your environment and methods.
About your truck. Looks pretty intense haha. A bit too much for me but I can always appreciate something ambitious and inspiring! I'll be posting soon about my own little project. Stay tuned!
jumbo2 01-31-2011, 04:52 PM Ahh now I see what your problem is. Your one of the BC4x4 boys. You better stay where you are if you know whats good for you. I find you on the trail, I'll drive right over what you drive!!
Nat
I would like to meet you on the trails :flipoff2:
nat_ster 02-09-2011, 08:08 AM I would like to meet you on the trails :flipoff2:
I look forward to it. If my truck won't handle you, I sure will. Where I go, you and your rig may not return.:flipoff2:
Thats going to be a bad ass rig dude.
I wouldn't put a second of thought into anything some pu**y on a forum says about your welds. Anyone that talks s**t like that has never built anything worth looking at.
Yeah I agree about the comments about your welding. I actually am an engineer and have inspected welds along side certified inspectors and have developed and re-certified welding procedures for both CWB and ASME codes for a very respectable Mechanical contracting and fabrication contracting company.
People like that should just keep their negative comments to themselves. I think your welds look fine given your environment and methods.
About your truck. Looks pretty intense haha. A bit too much for me but I can always appreciate something ambitious and inspiring! I'll be posting soon about my own little project. Stay tuned!
Thanks guy's. I do my best.
I hope you remembered to to fix the killer dowel pin....
Haven't yet, but it's on the list before it drives again.
Nat
spacitywheeler 02-13-2011, 05:10 PM love what I see so far... Any updates?
To any and all the haters... keep on keeping on, hate till you can't hate any more. This guy is building with what he has and not running up debt for a paint job or other bullshit. This is pretty damn close to living the dream!
Bill
welderrwc72 03-03-2011, 05:56 PM Looks good, Got to love those old pipeline welding machines, Ive got two of em and use them everyday. Im building Almost the same rig over in the Dodge section under cummins truggy, Its nice to see someone had the same idea with the cummins:smokin:
nat_ster 03-24-2011, 08:32 PM Some parts are starting to arrive.
Here are the two Su joint 360’s from Froggy Fab in Quebec Canada, for my front, and rear one link.
They arrived vary well packaged. They could have gone around the world a few times with that much tape, foam padding, and cardboard. Also vary well oiled to prevent rust. Each unit weighs in at about 25 pounds.
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They can be found here:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=967220
Nat
Tool7D 03-26-2011, 09:43 PM Its good to see you are still working on it. Cant wait to see the progress.
Josh
nat_ster 04-25-2011, 09:06 PM I decided to use the last 3 weeks of winter to work up some loads for the 40 rifles a buddy and I are selling at the 49th Calgary Gun Show. So Thursday at noon we loaded the 96 Ford Explorer down with the 40 rifles, a bit of reloading gear, about 10 spare barrels, and some ammo all to sell at our tables. Everything from a 338 lapua that weighs 20 pounds with a 2.5km range, to a 25cal Theoben Crow Magnum gas ram Springer pellet rifle. The poor little Explorer was sure loaded down heavy. I didn’t take the one ton Dodge as I hate driving it around in Citys.
Our table
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The 20 pound 338 Lapua is the rifle on the far left.
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The turn out was so good, I lost my voice by the end of the second day.
Nat
nat_ster 04-25-2011, 09:22 PM The few pics I snapped of the rest of the show. I spent most of the time at our Table.
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Nat
nat_ster 04-25-2011, 09:26 PM http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/nat_ster/My%20Build/Pictures3001.jpg
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Then on the way home I checked out the Calgary Tower. It cost $15 to get in.
Looking down 600 feet.
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Nat
time bandit 04-26-2011, 02:15 PM I spy a blond holding a big gun. looks hot too.... lol
bogginb2 05-29-2011, 08:04 AM shes going to be sweet, i always wanted an old cummins like that
nat_ster 07-10-2011, 09:41 AM My high steer arms arrived. 11 business days after I sent the money by PayPal the they arrived. Not bad to Canada.
This is how 4wheelsupply ships them. $120 to my door.
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They can be found here.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=947915&highlight=
Nat
nat_ster 08-01-2011, 07:31 AM I spy a blond holding a big gun. looks hot too.... lol
That's a friends new Internet wife.:D
Nat
nat_ster 08-01-2011, 07:51 AM Got started working on my spare front dana 60. Rather than tear the truck apart more, I figured I would get the spare ready, and swap it under.
Getting a head start on grinding the shock mounts and inner C’s off.
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Spring perch an driver side.
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Nat
nat_ster 08-01-2011, 08:45 AM I had the welder on the truck from another job, so I took the time to get started building my flat deck.
3” channel for main runners on the frame, 2” channel cross members every 16” on center, 3” x ¼” angle for the sides and back, and a piece of 3”x3” x 3/16 box tubing for the front. The tubing and headache rack will be integrated into the rollover protection system. Decking will be 1” plywood.
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All squared up.
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Stood the deck up for easier welding.
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Then it rained me out.
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Getting some spacers ready for the deck. I also started removing unneeded bed, and spring mounts.
Best way I found is a small cut with a zip disk, then a 4 pound hammer with a 1” cold chisel. It can be done without the cut first, but it takes 5 more hits per rivet.
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Nat
nat_ster 08-01-2011, 08:59 AM Before
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After
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Then I trimmed the rest of the fenders.
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And finished cutting under both doors. There will be a bit more trimming before I weld the new steel in.
Sand blaster is in the background.
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More trimmings.
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Nat
nat_ster 08-01-2011, 09:18 AM I was going to do just black steel stacks to carry the diesel exhaust up away from the truck. Anyone that works around a diesel truck knows all diesels should have stacks. Too many times I’ve gotten stuck, or hooking / unhooking a trailer, had to endure the stink burning my eyes, and choking me out while I’m cranking a trailer jack. But a friend of mine traded some old rims for two 4” chrome stacks. I will leave enough room between the cab and the deck to run 5” if I change them down the road.
Sitting there for a look.
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Back to my ag rims. I changed the way I was going to build them. Now in case I upgrade to rockwells latter, I’m using 6 lengths of sch160 pipe with a ID of ¾”, 3.5” long, welded to the inside of the rim shell, that bolt to the rim center with 6’ ¾” bolts per rim like farm tractors do.
Turning the pieces on the lathe.
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Nat
workin'dodge 08-01-2011, 09:47 PM chrome stacks!?! you might trick people into thinking dodges are worth something.:flipoff2:
sick build, doing any motor mods?
nat_ster 08-02-2011, 12:43 PM chrome stacks!?! you might trick people into thinking dodges are worth something.:flipoff2:
sick build, doing any motor mods?
If I don't swap the original VE pumped, 160hp Cummins for a P pumped, 190hp one out of a bus, then I will. The way it looks now, I'll run the VE pumped Cummins for a winter, the swap next year.
The P pumped Cummins in my bus is unreal compared to the poor little VE pumped one in my truck now.
Nat
workin'dodge 08-31-2011, 08:56 PM That p pump will smoke out your neighbours,
totally worth it!
Made any progress lately?
how many K on the motor?
driver351 08-31-2011, 10:32 PM you should bob the frame behind the rear spring hangers, keep it up man, i cant wait to see it done.
nat_ster 09-03-2011, 08:49 AM That p pump will smoke out your neighbours,
totally worth it!
Made any progress lately?
how many K on the motor?
340 on the one in the dodge. Still running like a top when I parked it.
420 on the one coming from a bus. Still running like a top, just needs a few seals.
you should bob the frame behind the rear spring hangers, keep it up man, i cant wait to see it done.
Springs front and back will be disappearing, and transport Firestone air bags will be taking there place with the one link. There are pics of my Froggy Fab Joint 360's back a bit in this thread.
Unfortunately no progress on the dodge. It would have been just about done, if I hadn't put this project ahead of it.:D
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1004576
Nat
nat_ster 10-01-2011, 09:23 PM My StazWorks 22.5 super single rims have arrived. They are one piece, and set up to run a standard single 11R22.5 highway truck tire. The 11R22.5 is within a inch of the same height as my 21.5 x 16.1 Ag tires. This way I can run my Ag’s for the bush, and my 22.5’s for the street. Recap 22.5’s only cost $400 for a nice winter tread pattern with 32/ 32nds of tread. Comparable light truck tire here in Canada would cost at least twice that much, and last about 25% as long.
Big thanks to John at StazWorks for such a great product, and putting up with the communication errors between us.
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Nat
yellowk20 10-02-2011, 10:32 PM Cool, how much were the wheels?
nat_ster 10-10-2011, 11:50 AM Cool, how much were the wheels?
$1350 before shipping, Just under $2000 to my door when the US / Canadian $ was equal. Sounds like a lot, but they will pay for them selves with the first set of tires.
Tires for them will range $350 to $450 a tire depending on what tread pattern I choose for the fist set. After 150,000km, when I where the first set out, retreading them will only be $150 a tire.:D
Nat
nat_ster 11-11-2011, 07:44 AM Thanks for all the comments guys.
All my build threads will be on hold for a few months due to a immanent Divorce that had been coming for some time. All units and tools will be moving to a new location, as she will be keeping the house.
Thanks again for all your interest.
Nat
Dr Evil 11-15-2011, 11:36 AM Good Luck sorry to hear.
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