this is my starting point
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02 7.3 f350

engine mods will be minimal but i would like 350-400hp at the wheels. i know its not going to do much for me offroad but i started out life drag racing and hp is still my weakness. all cosmetic work should be finished by the end of november.

other plans include front and rear winches, rooftop tent, and some form of bed storage system. i would also like to have front and rear air lockers. this will be my first expo build so please bear with my ignorance and any input would be greatly appreciated.

the truck is already lifted 4in with 35" goodyear mtrs. i dont plan on lifting it anymore. i am looking forward to this build and being able to just hop in and go anywhere i want.

where are you located? Id love to expo a rig like this

I'm sorry I came across so aggro, guess I'm in a shitty mood today.

I still think that's not the best starting point for an overland vehicle, and stand by my meaning but I was a douche about it and for that I'm sorry.

The other shit I said will live on in quotes, rock on.

... Horsepower and overland travel have almost nothing to do with each other. Except that having more horsepower means carrying more fuel and likely tearing up the road more.

I guess the "moar speed moar powar moar size lol!!" crowd won't be satisfied 'till every square inch of wilderness is closed down. Thanks.

wtf?

... horsepower and overland travel have almost nothing to do with each other. Except that having more horsepower means carrying more fuel and likely tearing up the road more.

I guess the "MOAR SPEED MOAR POWAR MOAR SIZE LOL!!" crowd won't be satisfied 'till every square inch of wilderness is closed down. Thanks.

I'm guessing the truck does a little double duty as tow rig, work truck, etc. 350-400 hp is not ridiculous and a little tune can actually help your fuel mileage yet keep the truck reliable and fun to drive. Keep the pics of that monster coming!

wow you know me very well. this horspower "addict" just needs more power for a vehicle that ways in excess of 8000#. it will serve double duty towing my jeep that i use for rock crawling. 400hp on this rig is nowhere near excess and i will actually get better milage with the proper tunes. a titan fuel tank is aleady on the list of future mods and that will give me 60 gallon fuel range. and besides, i'm really not to keen on taking something this heavy to go "muddin" in.

where are you located? Id love to expo a rig like this

i live in nw louisiana. it's gonna take some time but i thinkthis is going to be a great build

This is the expedition vehicles forum. I'm pretty sure the idea of expedition involves going farther away from a Chevron station than hitting sand dunes or whatever. That means carrying a lot of fuel. When you have a lot of horsepower, you burn a lot of fuel for some mysterious reason that science has yet to explain adequately. While there's no law against using a lot of fuel, it just doesn't make much sense to deliberately use an inefficient vehicle on a sport where efficiency and finesse are key. You don't see many bodybuilder cross country cyclists do you?

Furthermore when you USE a ton of horsepower, it tends to result in lost traction for equally mysterious reasons, and subsequently can cause a trail to be torn up, rutted, devegetated, and to become an erosion channel more rapidly than it would if used without unnecessary wheelspin. Additionally if you happen to also have a particularly loud exhaust as many horsepower-philes tend to have, and the access route to a given wilderness passes near a residential area, you just become more of an excuse for those residents to petition for closure of the access route.

Expedition travel ain't "MUDDIN!!!", it's a whole different sport. The equipment isn't the same and the attitude isn't the same. By definition, overland travelers need larger venues which are almost universally public land (within the US) and our right to travel that public land via motorized vehicle diminishes daily, fueled more by negative impressions left by destructive, obnoxious drivers than anything. I see a huge, 400hp behemoth like this with a self-described horsepower addict behind the wheel and all I can think is "what kind of bad impressions is THIS guy going to make?"

Okay hippie, go live in a tree. :shaking:

I'll have to move out as soon as you get the area closed down. :shaking:

Way to profile everybody you don't know. You're one of the reasons America is going down the drain today. FYI 350-400 hp for a truck that size is not a lot, but as somebody one said, "ignorance is bliss".

p.s. I drive an '08 2500 Dodge Cummins with 350 STOCK hp on 35's (which by the way takes more power to turn than stock tires) so I suppose I'm tearing up everything I drive over, right?

Nice starting point yogisjeep! Don't mind people like Eric D, he's just jealous that your truck can haul more and stay out longer than his S10 Blazer!:flipoff2:

Nice starting point yogisjeep! Don't mind people like Eric D, he's just jealous that your truck can haul more and stay out longer than his S10 Blazer!:flipoff2:

I'm not trying to compare my junk with anyone's else, I drive a shitty little blazer, it's no secret. Look if you saw someone heading out to a football field with a kayak and a fur coat wouldn't you point out he's got the wrong equipment? What's he going to do, haul 400 gallons of fuel around to feed that thing 150 miles from the nearest station? Tread lightly with 8000lbs across a soft river bank? There's a land use forum (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=18) that wouldn't really even need to exist if places didn't keep getting closed down and it's not hard to see how torn up trails = closed trails.

Yogi's big black truck is a nice truck for towing, maybe a nice truck for hitting a beach or something or running some fire roads. It really doesn't look like the right equipment for expedition and here we are on the expedition forum. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers but I stand by what I said, if this ends up being an OK overland truck well then I owe him a cold drink and an apology - I'll kick back and watch from here on out.

it would be pretty easy to put an 80-100 gallon transfer tank in the bed of that thing, not to mention the tank it already has holds 40 or so. i'd say thats a pretty damn good range. and since it is a dually, it will provide more flotation and traction, therefore less wheelspin and digging in wherever he goes.

sorry, you just sound like a douchebag whos butt hurt about people getting trails closed. its not cause people drive big trucks, its cause people are irresponsible and leave trash or get hurt. i've seen plenty of trails closed or threatened by something no bigger than a yota on 35s.

sorry, you just sound like a douchebag whos butt hurt about people getting trails closed. its not cause people drive big trucks, its cause people are irresponsible and leave trash or get hurt. i've seen plenty of trails closed or threatened by something no bigger than a yota on 35s.


You're right, I was rude. And I am butt hurt about people getting trails closed, aren't you? Seriously? When I saw the OP talking about horsepower it struck a nerve, I'm sick of having to drive 3 extra hours to get to the few places that still haven't been closed down yet. Aren't you?

Yeah I sounded like a douche about it. Sorry bout that.


Now that that is all cleared up,go fawk yourself :mr-t:stay the fawk out of his thread :shaking: Well, at least I'm not the only person saying rude shit around here. :shaking:

You're right, I was rude. And I am butt hurt about people getting trails closed, aren't you? Seriously? When I saw the OP talking about horsepower it struck a nerve, I'm sick of having to drive 3 extra hours to get to the few places that still haven't been closed down yet. Aren't you?

Yeah I sounded like a douche about it. Sorry bout that.

Now that that is all cleared up,go fawk yourself :mr-t:stay the fawk out of his thread :shaking:

Way to profile everybody you don't know. You're one of the reasons America is going down the drain today.

Do you even realize the hypocrisy of that statement?:confused:

Interested to see what the rig turns out like. I've got an '01 7.3L F250 SRW that I occasionally kit out for expo travel. No trail use though.

my only thought is it's too new. i mean if you really expo this thing your going to get desert pinstriping all down the sides. and being heavy has it's drawbacks. i'm about 10,000 but in the desert it's not too much of a problem, although if i try to jack up the front end the hi-lift starts to look like a C. i don't think i'd do well in mud but i've never seriously tried it. anyway with some common sense and self control you should be ok out here, as for lousiana i have no idea. oh and i agree about not lifting it anymore. 35's shouldn't be too hard to find if you have a flat but something bigger might be.
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It ought to be interesting.. I don't think it's too big, but the dual rear wheels could prove to be a hinderance. I am in the process of turning my dodge (that was once a tow vehicle for a jeep I no longer have) into a long range expo vehicle. If you do some searching, you will find that big trucks are very popular for overland excursions.. The dual wheels are gonna be your biggest drawback... but with some driving skill, it could prove to not be a problem.

Scott

Yogi's big black truck is a nice truck for towing, maybe a nice truck for hitting a beach or something or running some fire roads. It really doesn't look like the right equipment for expedition and here we are on the expedition forum.

I don't know Yogi's family situation, but I bet if he has kids, my heep wouldn't work for him at all, yet works for me perfectly, by getting done what I want it to get done, where I want it to get done. Your expedition is not his, his is not mine, and mine is not yours.

Agreed, everyone views expeditions as something different... I am working on turning my former tow rig into an expedition vehicle. My idea of an expedition is just enjoying the outdoors, not necessarily getting out to the most remote sections of the world...

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Scott