been workin on this one for a while now, here are some pics.....

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thats going to be one heck of an expedition truck :flipoff2:

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HOLY Fuckin EPIC! WOW is all that I can say man!!!

AMAZING!

Awesome work Matt.

did you lay the shocks down and canterlever them so they didnt stick up through the bed/frame??

yes, this truck will also be getting a pop-top camper too so the customer wanted an unobstructed bed space for sleeping/camping/hauling gear.

Your welds are freakin awesome!

The dimple-holes in the rear face of the rear bumper - if stuff gets in there, is there a way to get it back out, or is the bumper sealed otherwise? I *think* I can see little drain holes at the bottom, like if you wanted to wash it out. Are those dimple-holes in the bumper just for looks?

how much travel and what are you doing for CVs in front?

Very impressive work.

yes the dimples are just for looks.....they are by request of the customer.......and yes there are 4 drain holes in the main plate to let debris/water out.......the outter cv's are stock and the inners are a 930cv with custom 300m axles. the kit will do 15" but i strap them at 14" just to keep things reliable.


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totally bitchin :smokin:

interesting, did not expect factory CVs to handle that much angle. looks like its going to be a pretty darn fun truck. which motor does it have?

yeah the stock outter cv's are actually pretty decent all things considered....and the truck has a 5.3L

So, where does one go to make a deal with the devil?

Far out, that's amazing.

So, where does one go to make a deal with the devil?

Blitzkrieg motorsports.

Is the rear axle going to be stock?

Is the rear axle going to be stock?

for now yes.........but when he blows that one up im sure he'll be back for one of our 9" housings.

Very nice work !!!

FYI though dont use those cans for gas unless you make a way to vent them. If not they will expand and it will take a friggin pipe wrench to open them.

I want to make sexy time with your welding!

Matt, I really like how the swing outs carriers on the rear bumper don't cover up the tail lights.

Still not sure why someone would want you build a truck with that much bling in the suspension and not do a bullit proof axle while you were at it.

I'm thinking it would be like dating a transvestite to me. It will gets the job done, but is gonna be messy eventually!:D

Nice work Dude! I'd be proud if I could lay down an inch of welds that purdy!

Curtis

So, much weld porn !!
:smokin::smokin::smokin:

HOLY Fuckin EPIC! WOW is all that I can say man!!!

AMAZING!

x2

well this truck will mostly be a street queen...and i really doubt it will get used to even 10% of its potential so the 10 bolt will be fine for a while im sure.

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Amazing fabwork!

Wow!

WTF? theres no silver bullets in any of the pictures - cant be the real helton

LOOKS BITCHING!!!! I've drooled over your work for years on Dezert Rangers!!
I hope you dont mind but figured I'd ask..Do you mind of I do pretty much a complete rip off of your rear bumper design for my back country camping,hiking,fishing,dirtbiking,roof top tent in the bed toting Dodge diesel?
:D

lol........no i dont give a shit! copy away. :grinpimp:

Nice work Helton!

lol........no i dont give a shit! copy away. :grinpimp:

Mucho Graciass :grinpimp:

How many hours do you have in that rear bumper Senor Helton?

Since I have 220' of tube order coming in on the 28th and will be down there picking it up anyhooters.What thickness is that rear 2x3? Part number on them niffty locking collars? I guessing McMaster catalog.
I'll try and do your design proud,AND change enough of it so as not spitting image :D

how many hours?? shit i stopped counting after about 30 or 40....lol........the back bone of the bumper is 2x6 .120 not 2x3..........and yes mcmastercarr is where we got the t-handle pins........

and shes in the home stretch now......had her on the tires today....getting the alignment all set......need to do the exhaust still...and now the customer wants a viar system too like i did on the zombie apocalypse fighter. lol....more fun for me! haha

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In-fuckin-credible :smokin::smokin:

how many hours?? shit i stopped counting after about 30 or 40....lol........the back bone of the bumper is 2x6 .120 not 2x3..........and yes mcmastercarr is where we got the t-handle pins........


Damn guess my post is full of fail of material and cat's hahaha
Thanks for the info pimpn.Wasnt able to see the newest pics on the .gov computer tonight while on Staff Duty.Lookn forward to getting released in the AM and checking em out.

Looks bitchen Matt.
What jack is that?

its called a kwikjak....its from baja designs. i have no idea if it works well or not, its just what the customer gave me to mount.

FAWK,thing turn'd out pimptastic!!!
On the rear bump with is the width of sheetmetal from the 2x6 to the pipe?
Looks like about 6" .

And bout how much pipe you spose yall used?

Outstanding!:smokin:

Jeebus. Amazing attention to detail. I know where I'm going when I hit the lotto!

Lots of great ideas filed away. Thanks for sharing.

I know your riding this weekend,but 1 1/2" tube or 1 3/4" ?
Ordered up the T-pins and tire hinge and latch kits. :grinpimp:

how many hours?? shit i stopped counting after about 30 or 40....


When you have that many hours into a bumper, does the customer actually get billed for that many hours? Your fab work and welding is top notch, but do people actually pay $3k-$4k (estimated) for a rear bumper? Or does it all even out when the final bill is tallied up? Obviously this guy has money, considering everything thing else you've done on the truck. I'm just wondering if you get payed for every tedious hour you put into these types of projects.

When you have that many hours into a bumper, does the customer actually get billed for that many hours? Your fab work and welding is top notch, but do people actually pay $3k-$4k (estimated) for a rear bumper? Or does it all even out when the final bill is tallied up? Obviously this guy has money, considering everything thing else you've done on the truck. I'm just wondering if you get payed for every tedious hour you put into these types of projects.

Well if he was getting paid for every tedious hour, do you think he would have stopped counting? :flipoff2:

Sure, if the customer is the type where money does grow on trees, you don't even count the hours, just throw out a way inflated figure and be prepared to be rained on with $20's :flipoff2:

the lower main portion of the bumper is 1.75" and both the swinging pieces are made from 1.5".........as for the hours and price.....no the customer is not paying by the hour for this. we came to an estimated labor time prior to starting and that is what the billing is based off...and its all figured in to the total build cost of the truck.....had we just been building a bumper alone than yes we prolly would be billing the customer differently.

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:eek: FUCKING GANGSTER :eek: :grinpimp: :grinpimp:

Lovin it. Absolutely bautiful work Matt
Why'd the guy go with the single cab for christ sake?

Awesome build. You do really nice work.

Lovin it. Absolutely bautiful work Matt
Why'd the guy go with the single cab for christ sake?

well im assuming he wanted one since he bought it brand new. :grinpimp:

Matt, If I ever hit the Lottery you're going to get to build all my junk.
I couldn't do a weld that nice if my life depended on it.
With all the projects I want to build, I could keep you busy till the day I die.:D

That is a piece of work. :smokin:

May I suggest http://swagoffroad.com/images/24.JPG

Troy

Turned out great Matt. Thats the sweetest singlecab chev I have seen!
Eric I to am a fan of the single cab trucks. You never have a problem with a bunch of scrotes pileing up in your ride.

I know your riding this weekend,but 1 1/2" tube or 1 3/4" ?
Ordered up the T-pins and tire hinge and latch kits. :grinpimp:
did you get the hinge from mcmaster? it looks like trailer axle (?) P/N?

did you get the hinge from mcmaster? it looks like trailer axle (?) P/N?

You can get them here on pirate, try here (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=802184)

-John

you can get them here on pirate, try here (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=802184)

-john
thank you!!! :d

Matt, are you guys doing anything with the late model fords? Any plans to?

LOOKS BITCHING!!!!
I hope you dont mind but figured I'd ask..Do you mind of I do pretty much a complete rip off of your rear bumper design
:D

Same here.

Matt-

Can you tell me where you got those licsense plate lights? I'm building one of these for my chevy and that's the only thing I haven't been able to find yet. Awesome design btw. I wish I had the money to give you my truck and have you work your magical skills on it.
Thanks

Can you tell me where you got those licsense plate lights? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=license+plate+bolt+lights)

.........................

Muchos gracias.

well this truck will mostly be a street queen...and i really doubt it will get used to even 10% of its potential so the 10 bolt will be fine for a while im sure.

That is the saddest thing I have ever heard! :(

That is the saddest thing I have ever heard! :(

The dude will probably sell this thing for like 80% of what he paid for, then it will bounce around from owner to owner and only occasionally get used. So sad.

Perhaps a bit off topic, but I was wondering if you would know whether or not your long travel system would be applicable to the hybrid GMC Sierra/Chevy Silverado trucks, or would it confuse the electrical systems too much?

Nice first post fella. Also a member for that long without one. I applaud you. :)

Are we gonna get to see pics with the camper mounted, and flying over some whoops?!!@!

i love 4x4 prerunners,but most people just stick with the 2wd :(

Does that latch set up seem to be pretty solid? I did something similar with the same latch and it didnt keep it locked in real well, but it wasnt exactly the same. Mine acctually swung open on me on the trail and my jerry can mount ate my tail light.....

holy crap!!! i have the same thing...in my dreams :(

what size are the tires?

Wow this is great, nicely done.:smokin:

-Alex

HOLY WELDING PORN!:D WOW I haven't seen welds/ fab work like that in long time. very cool.:smokin:

Beautiful! Amazing work!

And BRILLIANT. I've always wondered at "expedition" vehicles that have all the bells and whistles but mostly stock supsension. Guess rattled out kidneys are part of the adventure for some.

When I am out in the back country, there is nothing I wish for more than a suspension system that can handle hours of rutted, bumpy roads.

This is perfect!

nice feature in "Offroad" this month. congrats

Holy mother of god, that thing is amazing!

If I had the coin my Ram would be in your shop getting the same treatment. That is a work of art. Well done!

Killer work. Amazing rig, love it.

dont forget to heat treat those suspension arms. haha

Amazing craftsmanship!

What are you're thoughts on spring under and flipped shackle? Would it be better for a heavier rig like say a '96 suburban 4x4?

Are the A arms wider then stock? The website says 91" track which should work out to +2 on each side. Correct me if I'm wrong I'm not sure what the new trucks are stock.

Not sure if I missed it but what was the rear suspension travel set at? 16"?

Are the '08 wheel bearings rotors and caliper any different from my '96 4x4 1500 sub? The reason I ask is I really like the knuckles and would get these and make my own arms that are a +4 with a 5"bs walker rim to help with cv angles and steering scrub, steering axis inclination and so forth.

Keep up the great work! Thanks

bump cuz I love that rear bumper.

and so I can find this later. :flipoff2:

bump cuz I love that rear bumper.

and so I can find this later. :flipoff2:
I copied the pictures to my computer to show to my fabricator buddy. We plan on building something similar on my W250

So I'm curious - would something like this be competitive in the stock or modified class at KOH?