: Looking for people running stock h1's(not recentered) on xj's


savvypower
11-30-2010, 06:40 PM
like the title says, looking into this. searched a little bit and only found a few pics of people running this setup. i want to run stock h1's so i can keep it at a reasonable width.

jayxj96
11-30-2010, 06:51 PM
with what axle's ?

savvypower
11-30-2010, 07:10 PM
srry meant to include that, its a 89 kingpin d60 srw, and sterling 10.25 rear.

jayxj96
11-30-2010, 07:17 PM
Are you just wanting pic's ?

aparke4
11-30-2010, 09:17 PM
i have them on 3/4 ton 60/44 hd's and i had to get spacers...a little cheaper and easier than re centering the rims but the backspacing gave me no clearance on flex and on turning (rub long arms) and i have a lot cut out... i think they are 7 inches of backspacing and are fucking heavy

i had to space mine out with ballistic spacers for the damn things to work

5.9 ANDY
12-01-2010, 03:19 AM
^ that is correct, h1 wheels have 7" backspacing,
with the military goodyear 37" tires and rubber run flats they weigh 150lbs each.

savvypower
12-01-2010, 04:33 AM
i was mainly looking for pics but this info is helping me out. basically i am trying to stay away from re centering (3.5" backspacing) so i can keep it sort of road legal. tire size is probably going to be 37" pitbull rocker rad's. even pics of recentered h1's on a fullbodied xj would be cool just to see how wide it really is going to be. thanks

xjT0ny
12-01-2010, 04:59 AM
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg460/tonysinnette/projects/SN153264.jpg

Here is mine on re-centered H1's and 36's. Axles are 3/4 ton (44/9). I used pressed centers that I got from someone on here. I don't rub at all. I'm 81 inches from the outside of tire to outside of tire.

ONEtonXJ
12-01-2010, 07:01 AM
Here is mine on re-centered H1's and 36's. Axles are 3/4 ton (44/9).

read the title again bud..

xjT0ny
12-01-2010, 07:24 AM
i was mainly looking for pics but this info is helping me out. basically i am trying to stay away from re centering (3.5" backspacing) so i can keep it sort of road legal. tire size is probably going to be 37" pitbull rocker rad's. even pics of recentered h1's on a fullbodied xj would be cool just to see how wide it really is going to be. thanks

I did... and then I read the rest of the thread.

savvypower
12-01-2010, 07:33 AM
cool looks good, so roughly how much wider am i going to be with one tons instead of the 44/9?

ashmanjeepXJ
12-01-2010, 07:51 AM
You can cut the knuckle to clear the rims and get special high steer arms but Id just do spacers.

Dookey
12-01-2010, 07:58 AM
You can cut the knuckle to clear the rims and get special high steer arms but Id just do spacers.

I'd probably just recenter them. :grinpimp:

ONEtonXJ
12-01-2010, 08:11 AM
i run non recentered H1s on my '86 DRW GM60 and every clears no problem..

i think im at 88" sidewall to sidewall with 40x13.5s..

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/DC4W-93XJ/Tater2TakeTwo012.jpg
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/DC4W-93XJ/Tater2TakeTwo001.jpg

savvypower
12-01-2010, 08:31 AM
thanks for the pics, technically the drw axle is equivalent to a srw 60 with 3.5" bs wheels so your is what mine would look like with recentered rims. i may just run them stock width and notch the arm like the above pic.

ashmanjeepXJ
12-01-2010, 10:32 AM
i think im at 88" sidewall to sidewall with 40x13.5s..


Thats wide. Im only 84" with 42-14.5 on 3.5BS recentered H1 on a 79Ford d60, 69.5in WMS

ONEtonXJ
12-01-2010, 10:50 AM
Thats wide. Im only 84" with 42-14.5 on 3.5BS recentered H1 on a 79Ford d60, 69.5in WMS

wide as fawk! i'll be gettin some SRW hubs and shit to recenter my H1s when the money tree blesses me haha

savvypower
12-01-2010, 10:58 AM
might just run some steelies to suck the tires in some more and to keep it cheap.

RCman
12-01-2010, 03:16 PM
I'm running stock backspaced H1s on a full width '79 Ford D60. Had to trim the inner fender and modify the steering, but other than that I'm happy with them. No spacers up front. I just cut the stock arms off and ran high steer. I think I've got a pretty decent width and I'm happy with it.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/RCman/Wheeling/Rocktober-Fest%202010/IMAG0213.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/RCman/Wheeling/Rocktober-Fest%202010/CIMG5760.jpg

You can see the minor inner fender modification under where the ECM sits stock. Same on the other side under the battery tray.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/RCman/JeepBuild/Reconstruction/InnerFenderPainted.jpg

Steering clearance:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/RCman/JeepBuild/Reconstruction/SteeringCompleteDriversSide.jpg

jayxj96
12-01-2010, 04:08 PM
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1030198

savvypower
12-01-2010, 04:46 PM
looks good! i like the sound of stock h1's with rock rings. plus it is keeping it very reasonable. RCman that is one of my favorite xj's ever. i have to see it in person some day lol

blackee
12-01-2010, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE=ONEtonXJ;12186980]i run non recentered H1s on my '86 DRW GM60 and every clears no problem..

i think im at 88" sidewall to sidewall with 40x13.5s..

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/DC4W-93XJ/Tater2TakeTwo012.jpg
QUOTE]

No shit it clears no problem, your wide as fuck with the DRW hubs.

barillms
12-02-2010, 10:49 AM
88" wide?? Holy nutsack dude.

I'm at 84.5" wide outside sidewall, keep in mind I'm running superwide 16.5x39.5" bias Rockers with sidewalks bulging like a fat girl's muffin top in stretchy jeans at McDonalds at 10:29am. If I was running skinny tires, I'd probably be at 81-82" sidewall to sidewall.

My stock H1s required a 1.5" wheel spacer to clear the stock steering arm up front on a 60, but it's a good thing because the hub only sticks out like 3" with the spacers bolted on:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/barillms/photo-146.jpg

savvypower
12-02-2010, 11:07 AM
Looks like with flanges you have nearly nothing hangin out, love the look of the stock 8 bolts. If I can keep it about 80"il be happy

ONEtonXJ
12-02-2010, 11:27 AM
im pretty sure its 88"..... but im also 3 states away from my rig for another 2 weeks..

xj9140
12-02-2010, 02:15 PM
I'm running stock backspaced H1s on a full width '79 Ford D60. Had to trim the inner fender and modify the steering, but other than that I'm happy with them. No spacers up front. I just cut the stock arms off and ran high steer. I think I've got a pretty decent width and I'm happy with it.

You can see the minor inner fender modification under where the ECM sits stock. Same on the other side under the battery tray.


Hey RCman. Have you measured your scrub radious? I mean, its probably e-relevant with your full hydraulic but, I was curious how far in the negative you are since you have H1's, Ford knucks and 40 something tires.

jayxj96
12-02-2010, 04:13 PM
I am at 81" with 4.5" b.s and a 12.50 tire !

savvypower
12-02-2010, 05:04 PM
I am at 81" with 4.5" b.s and a 12.50 tire !

And 3/4 tons, not one tons

jayxj96
12-02-2010, 05:08 PM
And 3/4 tons, not one tons

:smokin:

barillms
12-02-2010, 05:23 PM
And 3/4 tons, not one tons

You don't count then.... Jk.

savvypower
12-02-2010, 05:46 PM
lol in that case i don't count either because mines not together yet haha

RCman
12-02-2010, 07:08 PM
RCman that is one of my favorite xj's ever. i have to see it in person some day lolHaha. Thanks.
Hey RCman. Have you measured your scrub radious? I mean, its probably e-relevant with your full hydraulic but, I was curious how far in the negative you are since you have H1's, Ford knucks and 40 something tires.I have not, hadn't had a need.
Really it doesn't matter much being that it never sees street time and is mainly a crawler type rig with short sprints of wannabe go-fast stuff.

If you are truly interested let me know and I'll take a tape to it and measure.

SnailMan
12-05-2010, 09:25 PM
Hey RCman are those Longfields your running? If so how do you like them?

Jordan7118
12-06-2010, 12:02 AM
im pretty sure its 88"..... but im also 3 states away from my rig for another 2 weeks..

Long-distance relationship, huh? I feel your pain...

Good information in here. Thanks, fellas :smokin:

RCman
12-06-2010, 01:01 PM
Hey RCman are those Longfields your running? If so how do you like them?They are RCVs, yes.
I love them so far; service, fit & finish and functionality have been 100%.

Tin_Man
12-11-2010, 06:10 PM
Forget the gay mud truck stablizers. It's for road miles only (had DW w/o them). Hydro assist in near future.

Recentered at 4-1/2" backspacing from Trail Worthy (they did extremely nice work on the H1 rims). This is 1/2" different that stock H1 rims w/2" spacer. On Tera 60 w/kingpin that's 69" wms to wms... right at 77" outside rim to rim.

http://www.sija.org/robs/1ton95.jpg
http://www.sija.org/robs/1ton96.jpg

savvypower
12-13-2010, 07:06 AM
any side pics?

Tin_Man
12-14-2010, 03:08 AM
I haven't trimmed yet. Will have to loose a good portion of the front bumper and fender. The rear is limited on up travel due to previously bending springs. Won't have to trim too much in the back.

http://www.sija.org/robs/1ton78.jpg
http://www.sija.org/robs/1ton80.jpg

TheDeathtrap
01-03-2011, 08:10 PM
im in the same boat here in WV the Tires must be covered by the fender so... this looks like the way im goin... ive got bushwhackers on my full bodied xj ... i think i can keep them under there with stock h1's

savvypower
01-05-2011, 07:30 AM
Yep, I'm going to attempt the same except with a tube fender setup instead of the bushwackers, should be possible. If you get it done make sure to put pics up here

savvypower
01-30-2011, 07:15 PM
Okay another thing i'm interested in, anyone running the stock h1's with leafs in the rear? i searched to no avail.

barillms
02-08-2011, 02:38 PM
Nope... Coils rear with 14 Bolt, no wheel spacers.

Ghost
02-10-2011, 08:03 AM
Okay another thing i'm interested in, anyone running the stock h1's with leafs in the rear? i searched to no avail.

Was not possiable with my rear 60. The rim hit the leaf spring. I would have had to inboard the leaf's to fit the h1 without some recentering.

savvypower
02-14-2011, 06:13 AM
Not the answer I wanted but, thanks for the info

xj9140
02-14-2011, 07:52 AM
Was not possiable with my rear 60. The rim hit the leaf spring. I would have had to inboard the leaf's to fit the h1 without some recentering.

Not the answer I wanted but, thanks for the info

Yeah, x2 Sounds like I am going to need some spacers back there with my rear 60. I wonder how thick? Will post up after I get some wheels.

savvypower
02-14-2011, 10:21 AM
if my rig wasn't under 2 feet of snow i would go out right now and throw a wheel on to double check but..... il just wait and link it when i get the front done. i like the simplicity of the leafs for now but i guess thats going to change

heapxj
02-14-2011, 08:19 PM
Stock H1's w/ 38's works great

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/benblasco/flexing.jpg

savvypower
02-15-2011, 08:23 AM
So that's with leafs in the rear?

heapxj
02-15-2011, 06:04 PM
yep

Action Fab
02-15-2011, 07:58 PM
So that's with leafs in the rear?

thats going to have everything to do with your rear WMS. rear axle come in A LOT of differant widths.

heapxj
02-15-2011, 08:18 PM
my 14 bolt is 65" if that helps

savvypower
02-16-2011, 05:38 AM
I'm running a sterling 10.25. Thats means I should clear.

savvypower
02-16-2011, 05:57 AM
The only other issue I see its that im running 38.5 14.50 sx's, so the additional width might be a problem.Heap, does it look like you would have the additional clearance for the 14.50?

heapxj
02-16-2011, 07:58 PM
The only other issue I see its that im running 38.5 14.50 sx's, so the additional width might be a problem.Heap, does it look like you would have the additional clearance for the 14.50?

I do have room for a 14.5 and I would assume that it would only rub at extreme stuff/ turn. You should be fine

savvypower
02-17-2011, 08:11 AM
Awesome! Thanks for the help

savvypower
02-18-2011, 03:55 PM
hey i just noticed your picture, is that at the entrance to Mabell?

heapxj
02-18-2011, 04:19 PM
Perhaps

andrewmacc
02-22-2011, 10:09 AM
Quick bump to ask for profile shots of you guys on one tons, H1 rims or not. Trying to figure out how much I'm going to stick out with all width accounted for (tires and rims on), to see if I'm gonna be just about forced to narrow the axles.

savvypower
02-22-2011, 12:42 PM
quick bump to ask for profile shots of you guys on one tons, h1 rims or not. Trying to figure out how much i'm going to stick out with all width accounted for (tires and rims on), to see if i'm gonna be just about forced to narrow the axles.

x2

heapxj
02-22-2011, 05:57 PM
I don't have any profile shots of my junk but go to

http://www.kissmydiff.com/

my Jeep is in the Oct 26th ( bottom right ) video throughout, should give you an idea of where it sits. You don't have to narrow the axles, trust me

savvypower
02-22-2011, 08:04 PM
looks just as narrow as mine was on 35's, thats perfect. exactly what i was looking for

savvypower
04-13-2011, 05:29 PM
figured i would add to this, i got my 14 bolt setup under the jeep, heres a profile shot, 38.5-14.50's

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/savvypower/2011-04-06133901.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q9/savvypower/2011-04-06151509.jpg

xj9140
07-16-2011, 07:47 PM
My rear Dana 60 is 66" WMS to WMS. With Humvee wheels, 41.5x13.50 Rockers I have 1" clearance between the leaves and tire. I am going to need spacers so I can air down off road, but they fit.

JK-idding
07-16-2011, 10:37 PM
i run non recentered H1s on my '86 DRW GM60 and every clears no problem..

i think im at 88" sidewall to sidewall with 40x13.5s..

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/DC4W-93XJ/Tater2TakeTwo012.jpg
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/DC4W-93XJ/Tater2TakeTwo001.jpgThat look's sick!!!!! Who need's to trim fender's when you flex out over your hood!!!!:D

jkl
07-17-2011, 10:03 AM
im pretty sure its 88"..... but im also 3 states away from my rig for another 2 weeks..

Your in the ballpark, just went out and measured mine at 86". DRW chevy 60 w/ 39.5" Iroks on stock H1s. Could be off just a hair cause I measured it by myself.

barillms
07-17-2011, 12:20 PM
You need spacers up front for sure... 2" i'd recommend. Just get a set of 4 2" spacers and you'll be fine. If you want the rear narrower than the front then you can buy a couple pairs of the cheap 1/4" plate spacers and double them up until your tire clears the leaf spring adequately.

Either way you're gonna have to build some fender flares for road laws whether u run 2" spacers, 1.5" spacers or plate spacers...

If you're running leafs in back you should also build a high clearance anti wrap bar with a mini shackle or those leafs wont last.

barillms
07-17-2011, 12:23 PM
My rear Dana 60 is 66" WMS to WMS. With Humvee wheels, 41.5x13.50 Rockers I have 1" clearance between the leaves and tire. I am going to need spacers so I can air down off road, but they fit.
Those 42s GOTTA rub your rear inner fender well like crazy.... I'd space them out 1.5" further or it'll be like having the brakes on when flexed.

xj9140
07-17-2011, 01:16 PM
You need spacers up front for sure... 2" i'd recommend. Just get a set of 4 2" spacers and you'll be fine. If you want the rear narrower than the front then you can buy a couple pairs of the cheap 1/4" plate spacers and double them up until your tire clears the leaf spring adequately.

Either way you're gonna have to build some fender flares for road laws whether u run 2" spacers, 1.5" spacers or plate spacers...

If you're running leafs in back you should also build a high clearance anti wrap bar with a mini shackle or those leafs wont last.

If your talking to me. I built the front not to use spacers. It's 70-71 wms-wms. And that is just poor advise to use double stacked 1/4" spacers:shaking: As for wheel hop and anti-wrap. my leaves are friggen stiff, the stack is 5" thick from a 3/4 ton IH truck. With the notched leaves and UHMW liners they flex surprisingly well. Not going to build a traction bar. I'll go 1/4 elliptical and air shocks, keeping the back half of the leaves for stability. Going to wheel the rear suspension as is for a wile.

Those 42s GOTTA rub your rear inner fender well like crazy.... I'd space them out 1.5" further or it'll be like having the brakes on when flexed.

41.5's:flipoff2: I wont drive it if they rub. It will be setup properly first. If the wheel wells need enlarged more thats what I'll do.

XJsavage
07-17-2011, 03:31 PM
I know this is a little off the beaten path... but how do the H2's fit? Any special mods needed for those? pics?