: Old Florida Rd, Florida, MA


Malltero
11-10-2002, 07:23 AM
Just wanted to post this here. This is from one of the people on the 4x4wire. It was concerning Old Flordia Rd, a unmaintained road in Mass.


I think I,m in the right place for this?

I got this e-mail the otherday through Yankee Toys. Has anyone else heard any thing about this BS. From what I can gather from it Florida RD's days maybe numbered

Here is the write up I recieved.

Nick is right on the ball with this. The membership needs to step up to the
plate on this one. All you lurkers out there on the list, now's the time to
make yourselves known. I'll even make the 4 hour drive from CT in my
4Runner if a group of YT members will go with me. Who'se in? It's time for
people to participate in more than just wheeling events and cookouts.

MJF

At 12:06 PM 11/5/02 -0500, Nick Jennings wrote:
>Fellow Yankee Toys,
>
>Here is an issue we NEED to participate in. A very good local trail is
>potentially going to be closed. If any club members have an interest in
>continued wheeling here in New England this is your opportunity to get
>involved.
>
>If you have any or know any contacts in MA land use law please contact me.
>
>Related:
>
>If you have an interest in continued legal wheeling in NH please contact me
>about how you can get involved.
>
>Thanks,
>Nick Jennings
>
>
> >From: E4WBrill@aol.com
> >To: eastern4wheelers@yahoogroups.com, ec4wdalanduse@yahoogroups.com,
> >regiondmail@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Florida Rd Update!!
> >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:52:24 EST
> >
> > Hey everyone, here is some update info on Florida Rd from Paul Regish
> >and
> >Bill Barnes. There is talk of an attorney... I know Blue Ribbon had one out
> >here in MA (Clark, do you know if he still resides out here?) and Kieth M
> >had
> >a contact. We need to get on the horn ASAP and get our ducks in a row. This
> >will be our first real battle, I know that the Region and E4W have some
> >money
> >to put towrds it. Lets see how much its going to cost and get rolling.
> >Anyone
> >with ANY legal contacts in MA let us know.
> > Here's the info:
> > >>Greetings Rich and all:
> >
> >Carl Merrick, Joe Ostrenga, Keith Gammel and I attended the Florida
> >Planning
> >board meeting last night. Also present were Charlotte (didn't catch her
> >last
> >name) the owner of the Charlemont Inn, EPO Walsh and Tim Zelazo (planning
> >board member and State Forest Supervisor).
> >
> >As it stands we still need to do the legwork to get over to the Pittsfield
> >Registry of deeds to get the exact road layout. EPO Walsh explained she
> >has
> >indesputable evidence of the road going through the swamp with "standing"
> >water now over it. She explained that the DEM has lawyers and surveyors
> >working on the topic. It is my general sense that they are going to
> >attempt
> >to close the road via some type of wetlands tactic. We need to research
> >the
> >road and then we need to find some serious help regarding the wetlands laws
> >and old county roads passing through them. The town Selectmen and Planning
> >board were very receptive of us and it should be easy to work with them to
> >find a solution.
> >
> >.02 Paul Regish<<
> >
> >and from Bill Barnes:
> > >>NOW, is the time to pay for a land lawyer..get ALL the clubs and
> >JJUSA to make a commitment to pay a lawyer to research the road issue.
> >Ideally, look for a firm in the N.A or Pitts area that can do REAL
> >research.
> >Look for a fee in the 5- 10,000 range. DEM WILL close that end of the road
> >unless you can prove an alternative and/ or a court threat. They'd hate to
> >lose a big one in court (sets a precedent) and will bullshit their way to
> >an
> >illegal closure. I'm telling you...do it or lose it.
> >
> >Bill<<
> > Please act on this in any way we can. Any Qs or comments,
> >suggestions,
> >just ask, get ahold of me etc....
> > Talk soon,
> >David Brill
> >President & Land Use Eastern 4 Wheelers
> >Land Use Chair, Region D/Northeast of EC4WDA
> >Land Use Chair East Coast 4WD Association
> >Brilliant Signs & Grafix
> >Wallingford, CT
> >203-269-1317