: 1600 8valve blown crank!!!! Help!!!!!


Tuner Inside
11-16-2002, 04:05 PM
Ok I've had it with the crank that is in my kick. The keyway on the crank that holds the lower timming belt gear is smeared. I have had to weld the gear to the crank twick now and I no longer can get the valve timming right.

From what I have leaarned the 8 valve crank is a cast crank(correct me if I'm wrong.) Since I have to replace the crank, is there a forged crank I can use or a stock suzuki crank that doesn't have this smearing keyway problem?

Any help would be great.

1991 4dr Sidekick JLX 1600 8 valve

Bobzooki
11-18-2002, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by Tuner Inside
Since I have to replace the crank, is there a forged crank I can use or a stock suzuki crank that doesn't have this smearing keyway problem?

Geez, that's news to me. Never saw this problem on my 91 1.6/8 valve, my 92 1.6/16 valve, or any of my THREE 95 1.6/16 valve engines.

If it'll fit, I would go with the crank out of a 16 valve, as they're rated for 96 HP instead of the 80 HP of the 8 valve.

EDIT: According to Hugh Reynolds, of Reynolds Machine (he specializes in building these motors), the stock components are plenty strong to handle 140HP, without replacing them.

MuddMachine
11-18-2002, 07:12 AM
You could nitride the crank and balance it..... i would think

Tuner Inside
11-18-2002, 08:24 AM
I talked to suzuki(canada) about the crank and they said it was a factory problem. The keyway was faulty and the factory replacement cranks have the problem resolved. I think they are full of shit. Going to get a picture of the crank once I get the engine pulled.

I have acess to a 16 valve crank so I am wondering if it will work? Hmmm, or I might just have to order up a new crank.:eek:

Oh hey one more thing, anyone got a personal opinion on a good low-mid camshaft????? I might as well do one since the engine will be out. Need something to go with the nice thorley header..

okcrawler
11-18-2002, 09:40 AM
I had a simular problem with my 1.6L 8V. But, I think the crank bolt is too long, and does not tighten the lower timing gear properly. The gear wobbles around and eats up the keyway.

I found the problem before the crank was badly damaged and I replace the gear and key. I also build a heavy washer to shim the bolt out. That appeared to tighten up properly. Anyway, something to check when you put the motor back together....

Tuner Inside
11-18-2002, 09:26 PM
I don't know about the bolt length. When I found it the gear was doing the death wobble. But like I said they say the crank is soft.

One way or another I will double check the gear like you said.

OKIE ZUK
11-18-2002, 11:51 PM
I'm in the process of TIG welding another crank right now. I build up the slot inside then dremel it out while fitting slot with key. This one is a Sami I also done Track/Kicks. The bolt backs out, when you reinstall use Lock-tite. You might look for a weld shop nearby. Robert