I have a 22r in my 83 pu that iv'e driven for over a year. It has only 35k on it but it's blowing massive amounts of oil into the intake through the blow by valve, and some out of the dip stick. I didn't know anything about cars when I first got my truck so when my rad when out last august I had the motor temp all the way to red for 5-10 minutes, and I didn't change the oil for a year. I have since learned much, but this current problem is looking bad. The PVC valve is working, the motor does not smoke, it doesn't make any strange noises, and I have not driven it rough at all. I'm going to run a compression test this week. Also, it idles very rough and often stalls. Please help guys, this is my daily driver.

Sounds like it a has a few broken rings

yup... thats what i was thinking
Sounds like it a has a few broken rings

people have told me that if it's the rings, it would be making a lot of blue smoke power.

by the way, thanks for responding guys.

Well, mine did the same, but at 95k miles on a reman motor.

It did not smoke at all at idle. It would poor smoke at WOT (full throttle) up a hill, but you couldn't tell by how it was running.

The way you could tell was that it would blow the dipstick up and eventually started blowing oil out of every oraface... nice huh?

There's no cheap fix non-labor intensive fix.

If it's really got 35k and the block isn't worn, you could pull the head, pull the pistons out and just replace the rings after honing the block.

You could complete rebuild, which is what I did. Pretty time intensive. The motor has to come out and be stripped down. It's a great learning experience.

You could replace it with a reman.. maybe $750 or so for just the short block.

If you want to rebuild, let me know, I've got a set of .020 over pistons that have less than 10k miles on em (block had a hairline fracture). Cheap. Also have a stage 1 cam and a few other goodies..

Email me if you have questions about replacement or reman, but email directly - d_ginther@hotmail.com

I don't have the funds for a reman. But my friend said that if I tear this motor apart, it will cost 600-800 to go through it. The engine itself runs smooth(besides the idle), it's just the excessive blow by. Now that I think about it, my friend said my motor was smoking going uphill a few months ago when he was behind me going to the rubicon. So if it is the rings, then it should be a relatively simple and cheap fix? Also, when you say "honing," do you just mean inspecting it for other problems, or an actual procedure.

Honing the engine is takeing and honing machine or tool and putting it down each one of your cylinder holes. smooths the walls of the engine. (Cleans them up)

Originally posted by tunaman
So if it is the rings, then it should be a relatively simple and cheap fix? .

Thats pretty funny. If its the rings, "simple" is not the word to use. Mean you need to tear down the engine and replace them.

I compression tested the motor today.
My results go as follows(We double checked them).

1= 140
2=40
3=90
4=130

After this process we adjusted the valves. Not that it would cure my problems, but they needed it. So we've concluded that possibilities include: bad head, cracked rings, or something odd and fishy. Maybe something is clogged, hell i'm just guessing. But from what i'm told since it's shooting out of the dipstick, it means "can anybody say...... rebuild time."

If there is anymore input from anybody. Don't hesitate. I would appriciate any advice that you could offer.

If you see blow by, it's very likely the rings.
You can squirt some oil into your cylinders - that should increase your compression if it is the rings.

For $600-800 you can really rebuild a 22r completely, if you're doing the work yourself.

Here's what I do - if you've got the time, but not the budget.
Tear it down, keep the head as-is.
Rebuild the lower:
have it vatted $30-$50
crank polished/turned $20-$65
new gasket kit $70
new timing gear $60
new waterpump & oil pump
New crank/rod bearings $45
New rings $30-100 (depending on type)
Check the wear on the bore. If it's good, reuse your current pistons. Otherwise, I'll sell you a set of .020 over for $50! (10k miles on 'em)

If you really want it cheap, just tear it down, hone the block, install new rings. Just replace the gaskets...

Dunno what it is with these engines and rings....

I thank you a whole lot for being helpful dcg. What i'm probably going to do is when I arrange another temporary car in a few weeks, me and my boss are going to tear it apart at the shop. It's probably rings by everyone's diagnosis. So I guess it's gonna be a party. My co-worker says i'll end up junking the project and selling it to him for 300 bucks with the motor apart. But even though i've never done anything close to this before, I think it'll get done with helpful friends, the pirate board, the fact that it's my daily driver. And the attitude that FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION.:cool:

That's a good attitude.

If you have rebuild questions - you can ask on the board or ask me directly.

A great source for good *new* parts (good prices) is: http://www.engnbldr.com - he's been very helpful to me.

I'll offer opinions if you want on your rebuild options.. Just remember if you've got a $600-800 budget and are time limited, you could just get a reman short block.

The rebuild takes a while, mainly due to machine work. Your local machine shop might rebuild it for you (at a reasonable price) if you take the block in. That's another option.

At a min - turn the crank, check the wear on the cylinder walls, replace the timing gear.

Just be patient as well as persistant while working on it...
-d