I may have found a 9K warn winch.

2 questions:

first is $250 for this winch a decent price, and second, is 9K lbs sufficent for a scout?

NQS

Originally posted by NotQuiteSane
I may have found a 9K warn winch.

2 questions:

first is $250 for this winch a decent price, and second, is 9K lbs sufficent for a scout?

NQS

9K is pretty good, but if you are really, really stuck, put a snatch block on it, and you now have 18K of pulling power. That really should be enough... although slow, effective.

I'd pay that much for one, if it was in good working order.

Heck, turn a profit and sell it to me for $260... ;)

That's an excellent price for a working winch in fair shape.

Warn 9k is a "lil smoker"



those things suck so bad you couldent give me one

i have a milemarker on my scout and hydraulic is the way to go.

plus the fact that scouts came with saginaw 125s makes the install all the easier

i stuck mine right in between the frame rail and only stick out 1" farther then the stock bumper

hit my www button and take a look, the MM is a small winch for the big power they pack

Dude - if you don't buy a winch for $250 you really aren't quite sane!!

Dude - if you don't buy a 9K warn winch for $250 you really aren't quite sane!!

i have a milemarker on my scout and hydraulic is the way to go.

Must work well in the snow, but in the rocks when you are sitting upside down and the engine is turned off I'll take the Warn any day.

Hydraulic winches are great for snowdrifts and mud, but when there is a chance of a roll over, they suck :p

Originally posted by muskyman
Warn 9k is a "lil smoker"



those things suck so bad you couldent give me one

i have a milemarker on my scout and hydraulic is the way to go.

plus the fact that scouts came with saginaw 125s makes the install all the easier

i stuck mine right in between the frame rail and only stick out 1" farther then the stock bumper

hit my www button and take a look, the MM is a small winch for the big power they pack

Will you sell me a mile marker for $250?

NQS

yep no doubt upside down is a tough place to use a hydraulic

but I still hate lil smokers...i spent a gazillion $ replacing motors in my 8274 when I was young and poor so I'l always hate-em:D

yep no doubt upside down is a tough place to use a hydraulic

but I still hate lil smokers...i spent a gazillion $ replacing motors in my 8274 when I was young and poor so I'l always hate-em:D

then again if i'm upside down shouldent my budies that arent flip me back?

how often do you see guys flip there own rig back?

Originally posted by uglyscout
Dude - if you don't buy a 9K warn winch for $250 you really aren't quite sane!!

If it's a warn, and I can budget the cash, I'll grab it. guy also thinks he has a t19 for me @ $150. and that i need much more

NQS

Originally posted by muskyman
[Bbut I still hate lil smokers...i spent a gazillion $ replacing motors in my 8274 when I was young and poor so I'l always hate-em:D

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Speaking as one who is young and poor...

:flipoff2:

what the hell were you doing that you were smooking motors on an 8274??

8274 has got to be the best damn winch out there.

Joe, get the 9000, which model is it?? It will probably be "slow", but pull pretty good.


I like the idea of the hydrulics, and the definatly have advantages, such as being able to pull all day. I will probably put one in the back of my truck for pull mule duty, but the electric will stay in the front, because the are so versital and can be made to run even when the truck is dead.



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Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
Joe, get the 9000, which model is it?? It will probably be "slow", but pull pretty good.

Dunno. guy just said he had one. supposed to stop by later and give me more details

NQS

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
what the hell were you doing that you were smooking motors on an 8274??

8274 has got to be the best damn winch out there.




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Exactly. I have an 11 year old 8274 and I have yet to smoke the motor. :confused:

Originally posted by muskyman
yep no doubt upside down is a tough place to use a hydraulic

but I still hate lil smokers...i spent a gazillion $ replacing motors in my 8274 when I was young and poor so I'l always hate-em:D
HUH? :eek: I have had my 8274 for years on mine and I'll run it any day over my 12,000 # Ramsey. Also my Scout is quite a bit larger then others out there and I usally am the one that winches everyone else.... no one has ever winched me. Pulled a Toyota out of the Colorado river with it too. As for guys flipping their own rigs back over, been on my side last April at Moab and just used the rear steer and throttle to set it back up! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
what the hell were you doing that you were smooking motors on an 8274??

8274 has got to be the best damn winch out there.


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growing up wheeling deep mud in the midwest most pulls are on stuck trucks on big tires burried in deep mud. and with trucks on 40's and 44's you can some times have to pull them a long long way to get back to terra firma

I started with 12v then went to 24v then ended up running motors meant for snowplows at 36v. they all were big steps forward as far as duty cycle goes but they all ended up the same way. yes 8274 is way better then the "lil smoker" planataries but it too has its limits and I often found myself there.

then I grabbed a 20k winch off a garbage truck and set up my first hydraulic . it never had a problem pulling anything out.but it weighed to much for the front of a truck

when the Milemarkers came out the 68lb part really caught my eye

so now and for the last 7 years I have been running a milemarker 2spd and its just awsome! it makes about 12k on the first wrap run with a boosted saginaw 125.

if all your pulls are short ones ,or if you are most often just righting a truck or pulling it outa a stuck ontop of something then an electric does fine.

but if you want to be winch mule or you are gonna run the deep goo hydraulic is the way to go

I have a 9000lb Mile Marker on my Scout...Different type of power in the pull but it is better than digging all day or trying to figure out how to come-along your ass upright.

Different winches for different scenerios...$$...


BUY IT...

Originally posted by muskyman


growing up wheeling deep mud in the midwest most pulls are on stuck trucks on big tires burried in deep mud. and with trucks on 40's and 44's you can some times have to pull them a long long way to get back to terra firma

but if you want to be winch mule or you are gonna run the deep goo hydraulic is the way to go

I've never seen an 8274 puke, but MM has a point about midwest wheelin.

Most of my folks ranch is made of 5-6 inches of sod floating on thick quicksand. You drop through, and its 15 feet to bedrock. I've seen bad spots that were 300,400 feet long, a long damn pull for any winch, let alone an electric.

PTO is your friend. (having a 15,000 lbs crawler to anchor to helps :D)

Originally posted by muskyman


growing up wheeling deep mud in the midwest most pulls are on stuck trucks on big tires burried in deep mud. and with trucks on 40's and 44's you can some times have to pull them a long long way to get back to terra firma
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but if you want to be winch mule or you are gonna run the deep goo hydraulic is the way to go


OK, aceptable, in your aplication, yes, a hydrulic is definatly the way to go. Or PTO, or find new wheeling buddies :D


in the PNW, I/we have found the electrics to be more than adiquit. Mostly short pulls, mostly small stucks or righting. Electrics work fine for that!

Like I said, I am seriously concidering a hydrulic or PTO for the rear of my truck, presisly for winch mule duty. Sit on top of an obsticaly and pull the rest of your group up.... BT, seen it done, expecialy on some of the rock walls/cliff faces we have...

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite



OK, aceptable, in your aplication, yes, a hydrulic is definatly the way to go. Or PTO, or find new wheeling buddies :D


in the PNW, I/we have found the electrics to be more than adiquit. Mostly short pulls, mostly small stucks or righting. Electrics work fine for that!

Like I said, I am seriously concidering a hydrulic or PTO for the rear of my truck, presisly for winch mule duty. Sit on top of an obsticaly and pull the rest of your group up.... BT, seen it done, expecialy on some of the rock walls/cliff faces we have...

I would suggest hydro for a scout rear winch. There is too much stuff from Tcase to rear bumper. The driveline would be all over the place.
Bolt a hydro pump to the PTO cover. less line then running a MM setup, and far stonger.

<envisioning a scout pulling a whole group up the wall>

I always hated being winch mule

when I put the 20k hydro on my blazer I ended up being winch man all the time and that took a ton of time away from tral leading and thats more fun IMHO

so I built a stand alone wheel around hydraulic winch to act as winch mule so you can chain it to a tree or some rocks or a pullpal and leav it at the sippy hole or obstacle and it just sits there and works all day long on a gallon of gas. 100% duty cycle 12000lb pull

look at it here (http://www.discoweb.org/discus/messages/17/175.jpg)

That, I like.

I'd make it a little lighter and maybe run direct PTO, but its cool.

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http://ftp.vandermeerfp.com.xohost.com/Wheeling/Hijack.JPG

ive got an 8274 on my yota, but i would sure give 250 for a 9000 to put on my scout:eek: :eek: :eek: i havent seen a good used winch out here since i can remeber.

The guy in front of us at last years NWRCA was running a hydro winch on a full size ramcharger. Ended up burning up his pump and it took him out of the comp. That kind of turned me off to the hydro winch. FWIW I love my M 12,000 Warn. Kinda slow but it's a pulling mutha.:)

well ya cant always blame the winch for burning up the pump.

using a lazer pyrometer shooting the outside of the pump and shooting the fluid inside my pump runs about 35degrees cooler while winching at full load then it does just running down the highway at 70mph then stopping and checking the temp.

not saying you cant burn them up but a $20 tranny cooler will keep the fluid cool if you really think ya needed it.

Dont go with The milemarker 8000, A friend had one on his landcruiser and tried to give me a little tug to get me up this hill, needless to say after a big pop he blew up the planetary Gears in it :nuke: Needless to say he wasnt too happy bout it.

planataries arent made for shock loads such as a pop/snap.

with a winch the load on the gears ramps up.

Hey NQS !! FWIT, I recall reading in one of the mags, meebee offroad (?) regarding an analysis of some 100 or so winch pulls. They were on rock or sand, NOT deep mud. They didn't specify what rigs or winches......... they didn't need to. The Average pull measured something like 2,500 lbs. Just something to think about. That said, I saw a Warn 9000 unable to pull an XJ out of about 3 feet deep snow, up hill. Get the shovels out !!!! You should be good with the snatch block for anything you'll need to pull, even a Scout. Sould work good pullin out the Toys and Jeeps also. :D More $0.02 I see a lot more straps in snow, and more winches in rocks..............

Allmost forgot............ Merry Christmas Forker !!!!:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: