What do you guys think - can I fit these with a little trimming?:D:D
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Chris
****Special thanks to JOHNS351C for the new tires!****

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Sorry 'bout that. See if this one works:).
Chris

I tried the link three times........

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Hmmmm. Well, it's showing up for me. I just loaded the pics, though, so maybe it takes 15 minutes to show up or something. Hmm.
Chris

http://community.webshots.com/photo/55742049/55742324OtTUey
Does that work better?
Chris

Tires are cool, but get rid of that :rainbow: bumper:flipoff2:

Haha. Not the first time I've heard that:).
Chris

Originally posted by GO 4LO
Haha. Not the first time I've heard that:).
Chris

Well you should have taken the advice!!

:eek: :eek:

:D To each his own.
Chris

That bumper has more tube in it than some buggy's :flipoff2:

:eek: that bumper must weigh 200 pounds

126lbs;). Maybe I should rename this thread "everyone laugh at my bumper" haha:D:flipoff2:.
Chris

when you loose the bumper it shuld have enough lift for those... :flipoff2:

Originally posted by GO 4LO
126lbs;). Maybe I should rename this thread "everyone laugh at my bumper" haha:D:flipoff2:.
Chris

yes you should!

God freaking god man, that's just wrong! :barf:

I just have one comment on that bumper.....:barf:

Don't you realize that is the ugliest fawking bumper in the world? Or are you oblivious? :confused:


How come you didn't paint the butt ugly rear bumper that beautiful dandylion yellow to match your cage and gas tank skidplate? :rainbow:

that is the ugliest dayum thing i have ever seen in my entire life!!!

nice rear bumper too, notice the yellow.

Originally posted by TTM
that is the ugliest dayum thing i have ever seen in my entire life!!!
Thank you:). By the way, the front bumper is getting repainted body color (or red if I put it on my black TJ). I don't like the color Mike painted it for me. The design, however, I'm stickin' with;).
Chris

By the way, I thought all of you were "hardcore"? I've never seen so many people concerned with looks, rather than function haha. My bumper cost me less than it would cost to buy a Warn winch mount and cheapo 2x5 rect. tubing bumper, plus it affords me some radiator protection in the event of a rollover and frontal protection against deer collisions, which are common in my area. These are worth the extra 50 lbs IMHO. The only criticism I've heard from you is about how it looks - at least address its functional shortcomings! What a bunch of posers:flipoff2: :flipoff2: bwahahahaha
Chris

Well to each his own I suppose, but I hope you never roll with that sucker, cause it's coming off and becoming a dangerous flying object. :eek:

Originally posted by RudeZuk
Tires are cool, but get rid of that :rainbow: bumper:flipoff2:

Actually, I like the bumper, it looks nice and simple, i could, however, do without all that crap attached to the top of it, except of course the 8274. :flipoff2:

maybe you should but the tire in front of the bumper and ask again?

Well, lets talk about function.
A grill hoop could solve almost all the problems you mentioned, but the deer, well I bet that a deer would take out just about any bumper.

THOSE TIRES ARE HUGE!!!
You should start a thread that says "48's on a dana 30???"

You'll have to keep us posted on how the hell you figure out how to run those on a TJ!

BTW GO4LO, we're hardcore with good taste. :flipoff2:
no one wants to wheel a :rainbow: rig!

If you think that thing looks cool then thats your own parogative, but was I was trying to bring up is that that thing adds a lot of extra weight. Extra weight = broken u joints.


































But I have to agree with some of these other guys, that thing is fugly:flipoff2:

Originally posted by WideJ
Well, lets talk about function.
A grill hoop could solve almost all the problems you mentioned, but the deer, well I bet that a deer would take out just about any bumper.

THOSE TIRES ARE HUGE!!!
You should start a thread that says "48's on a dana 30???"

You'll have to keep us posted on how the hell you figure out how to run those on a TJ!

BTW GO4LO, we're hardcore with good taste. :flipoff2:
no one wants to wheel a :rainbow: rig!

Well, it's not been tested on a deer yet:). The triangular vertical supports are about 3.6 times as strong as the vertical tubes in a frontal impact, and they are braced at the bottom right by the frame. I couldn't design it any stronger than I did - but you're right, at high speed, a deer will take out just about anything.
I know exactly how I'm going to run the tires - steering Rockwells F&R, full hydro from Station/JOHNS351C, custom longarm I designed, and airbags. And a lot of trimming. I may even drop a flatbed on the back of it:). Thanks for the intelligent post ;).
Oh, and maybe I'll paint my big TJ pink with purple flowers and paint "POR" across the hood just for y'all;).
Chris

Originally posted by Weezer
If you think that thing looks cool then thats your own parogative, but was I was trying to bring up is that that thing adds a lot of extra weight. Extra weight = broken u joints.

But I have to agree with some of these other guys, that thing is fugly:flipoff2:

That's cool - I understand what you're saying. I just didn't consider 126 lbs (versus 75 or so for rect. 2x5 cheapo bumper and winch mount) that big of a compromise in weight. Thanks.
Chris

The point is......it's :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:

Originally posted by Spank
The point is......it's :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:

Ah, yes, I see now that you are a VERY hardcore wheeler.
Chris

Geez, lighten up guys. So he got a deal when he bought the bumper and the tires off the same truck. Big deal. :flipoff2:

Pete

Originally posted by pcorssmit
So he got a deal when he bought the bumper and the tires off the same truck. Big deal. :flipoff2:

Pete

Haha. It doesn't bother me - I can take the ribbing as well as anyone. I just find it funny how "hardcore" some people fancy themselves.:D
Chris

We are just commenting how your bumper looks like ass and really serves no purpose. Looks like a fawkin cattle guard.

Originally posted by Jason R
We are just commenting how your bumper looks like ass and really serves no purpose. Looks like a fawkin cattle guard.
Thank you for clarifying. I just didn't quite understand the other thirty posts like yours;):flipoff2:
Chris

come awn guys, get off his ass. he is trying to get in the new mad max movie

Originally posted by Spank
nice rear bumper too, notice the yellow.

The yellow is not the bumper :rolleyes:

Now I know I've seen a bumper like that before on a Jeep(ney)!

Originally posted by Beast40


The yellow is not the bumper :rolleyes:


No sh*t! What I meant to say was, "Nice rear bumper, and all that fawking ugly ass yellow paint on the SKIDPLATE and rollcage."

happy? :flipoff2:

So I take it you are gunna stretch out that wheel base? Are those the 54's or the 48's? They look too big! I'm going with the softer 46's. I can't wait to see how ou mount them?

Originally posted by 4Bangler


Actually, I like the bumper, it looks nice and simple, i could, however, do without all that crap attached to the top of it, except of course the 8274. :flipoff2:

Ditto, the top half of that bumper is beggin for the sawzall.:eek:

:flipoff2:

That thing needs to be chrome!!!!! :rainbow:

If you cut off the stupid "fender protectors" it would look MUCH better. What purpose do they serve?

-J

what size are your new tyres?

Fist off the bumper is gay, we think its ugly and also believe form fallows function... Basicly way to much crap that doesnt do the job as well as a simpler design (unless it is indeed a cattle guard) OK now thats out of my system....

I wouldnt bother with a flat bed in the rear because to use those tires well your going to need to stretch the wheelbase ALOT otherwise it will want to flop over backwards whenevre you look at a steep climb. Other then that keep us posted

The tires are 16.00R20 - they measure 52" tall, 16" wide sitting there - not on rims, not on vehicle. They will be going on 20x10 beadlocks. The wheelbase will be stretched.
Chris

Originally posted by NE-RokToy
I wouldnt bother with a flat bed in the rear because to use those tires well your going to need to stretch the wheelbase ALOT otherwise it will want to flop over backwards whenevre you look at a steep climb. Other then that keep us posted

Thanks for the comments. I'm not sure I understand the correlation between stretching the wheelbase and not using a flatbed, though? Could you explain this for me? My purpose in consdiering the flatbed is two-fold - first, I can get some more shock-mounting room in back (never carry passengers in the rear anyway, and getting rid of the tub will open up a lot of room). Second, I can gain lots more tire clearance (more than with just hacked fenders), which will translate to less lift and a lower CG, which is already gonna be way too high due to the tires LOL:). The rear axle is going to be pushed back about 12" from its stock position, and the front axle will be moved about 12" forward. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Chris

Originally posted by GO 4LO
The tires are 16.00R20 - they measure 52" tall, 16" wide sitting there - not on rims, not on vehicle. They will be going on 20x10 beadlocks. The wheelbase will be stretched.
Chris

FARK :eek:
what did that run you per tyre?

Originally posted by BJ On Roids


FARK :eek:
what did that run you per tyre?

They are pretty cheap.

Johns351C who is on the board here sells them for $150 each in 95%+ condition. I think he sells the 100% tires for $200.

I have some 52" XL's from John that I am very happy with. I can't wait to run them.

You know Sam with the blue Land Rover hybrid right? He knows where you can get some of these tires in Oz.

Sean

Yeah, John's got great prices on military tires, Rockwell stuff, steering setups, you name it. Great guy to buy from - I highly recommend him.
Chris

Yea Chris, you poser :D :D :D

Originally posted by T1H5_TA3
when you loose the bumper it shuld have enough lift for those... :flipoff2:

:grinpimp: BLahahahahahahaha:D


seriously ditch that bumper or at least do some trimming. it looks like something MR.T and the A-TEAM built..

how much wheelbase do you plan on having? i would make that thing 110 or better if i was doing it. also i'd stretch it the same amount on both ends, not just the front. especially if your gonna flatbed it. just my.02 :D

I was gonna buid a bumper like that, only it would have a fold down grill on the front, and I would use all that extra tube for extra capacity propane storage, maybe some horizontal 8 inch spikes too, this way, when I do hit that deer, I just flick my Bic, and BBQ!!
















Dude, it's super

:rainbow:

Good God that bumper is fawkin ugly, take that shit off!:rolleyes: :eek: ever heard of a simple radiator bar??:rolleyes:

2nd that. GOOD GOD MAN!!, No class with the bumper. Lose it. Oh Yeah, good luck getting those tires to fit if you have to save money by building a bumper like that from scrap. :flipoff2:

GOD DAMN, LAY THE FUCK OFF, HE GETS THE POINT. :rolleyes: CHRIS, YOU TAKE SHIT VERY WELL, I WOULD BE FREAKIN PISSED BY NOW. ON THE TIRES, THOSE ARE FREAKIN HUGE... I WOULD THINK THE WIEGH OF THOSE SUCKERS, PLUS ROCKWELLS AND THE ENGINE WOULD KEEP THE FRONT PLANTED PRETTY WELL...

TOO BIG FOR MY TASTE, BUT HEY, I'M NOT THAT HARDCORE :P

MATT

I thought it was a joke at first, but now that I realize your serious: go for it! Just make sure to include pics. I'm thinking it'll look something like Tim's 350 Samuari.

That's funny. Guys on the other side of the country know what's best for your Jeep and your area.

You know the routine :flipoff2:

Originally posted by FIXXXXAH
ON THE TIRES, THOSE ARE FREAKIN HUGE... I WOULD THINK THE WIEGH OF THOSE SUCKERS, PLUS ROCKWELLS AND THE ENGINE WOULD KEEP THE FRONT PLANTED PRETTY WELL...

TOO BIG FOR MY TASTE, BUT HEY, I'M NOT THAT HARDCORE :P

MATT

You're right. My '97 is going to be very heavy overall. It'll be running a light 302 for the engine, so that hopefully, all the weight I add (Rockwells, tires, ...) will keep the COG low. There's a couple other surprises in store for it, but everyone will just have to wait until I post the finished pics before they get to make fun of those. They'll be even more :rainbow: than my bumper;).
Chris

Originally posted by PITDOG
2nd that. GOOD GOD MAN!!, No class with the bumper. Lose it. Oh Yeah, good luck getting those tires to fit if you have to save money by building a bumper like that from scrap. :flipoff2:

2nd that? You mean 52nd that, right?:D
Chris