Awhile back, skeetshooter and I were setting up the gears in my scout. The rear was no problem using the old carrier (after a little welding of course). The front 60 was a little different story since I had a new detroit to put in.

Well, you know, we are just a couple of east Texas farm boys who have never really had the privilege to work on anything new so we determined that we should start out with the same amount of shims that was on the stock carrier.

So after we 'pressed' the bearings onto the detroit with a big ass socket and a ball peen hammer we then proceeded to install it in the housing.

It only took us two brain surgeons about 15 minutes to beat that son of bitch into the housing with the aid of a wooden block and a fawkin circus hammer.

Our spirits were crushed when we found that it was too tight. Who would of thought:confused:

By this time it was about 3 am and I had to be at work at 7 so I left and drove the hour home.

The next day we devised a most devious plan.

First secure the rig with a warn 8274 mounted to the shop floor.

Second, you need a crazy bastard similar to this who has developed a booty fab gin pole truck that we affectionately call "The Apparatus"

Another view of "The Apparatus" and skeetshooter

Next you attach the business end of the apparatus to the stuck carrier.

The whole operation should look something like this. If you ever do this please consult this photo to make sure you are using the correct procedure.

The next step requires two people: you must simultaneously work both winch controllers until the rig is stabilized, otherwise you will jerk it off of the jack stands.

When you reach the desired tension, your buddy can control the apparatus (skeetshooter) and you (me) can sit there like Johnny Bench trying to keep your new Detroit and 6.17 gears from hitting the floor.

After that you just take a good guess at the number of shims you should pull out, spend 5 hours building a bearing puller, then using a hammer and chisel anyway,put the carrier back in, don't check shit and call it done:flipoff2:

If everything was done correctly you should end up with something like this. Only things required are dana 60's, detroit locker, The Apparatus, and several 30 packs of Budweiser:flipoff2:

:eek:

did that work? looks like from the way your pulling it would jam the carrier in there even worse since its not pulling from the center.

why spend all that money for a new detroit and install it half assed?

i was consulting my confederate 4x4 guide and i thing all procedures were done correctly...except you should have had to pull the carrier bearings like 5 more time to ensure you get Good at it :flipoff2:

nice work...never doubt what 2 rednecks and a 30 pack can accomplish!

*sigh* and here I sit thinking honed out carrier bearings are a good thing?
Oh well. Keep in mind if you don't have any backlash, it's the same as a Denver 4WPW install!

so with all that flat land around there why do you need a furbyfur anyway?

Originally posted by CJ5-man
:eek:

did that work? looks like from the way your pulling it would jam the carrier in there even worse since its not pulling from the center.

why spend all that money for a new detroit and install it half assed?

It worked, and we did check the backlash and pinion depth, and we did get a good pattern after several attempts.

Just makes for a better story to say we didn't check:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Chrisjeep7
i was consulting my confederate 4x4 guide and i thing all procedures were done correctly...except you should have had to pull the carrier bearings like 5 more time to ensure you get Good at it :flipoff2:

nice work...never doubt what 2 rednecks and a 30 pack can accomplish!

Sir, I am offended!! We are definitely not rednecks, and it takes us much more than a 30 pack to do this kind of work.:p

I did notice on the back of the apparatis truck window that you dudes are Hooked on Quack.....That could be the problem!!!Quack, beer, and booty fabbin don't mix!:skull:

hey you guys stole my method:flipoff2: , oh well whatever works right?:D

I guess if it works. You guys went thru a lot of extra work. Try reading some of the Tech pages from numerous websites on the net. :flipoff2:

I was just refering to a site that you posted. See below. So

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/reference/dana60/

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97267

All those fab skills and apparatus, and no one took 20 minutes to make a case spreader out of 3 pieces 1/2 x 2 flat bar, some 3/4 threaded rod and nuts, and two small pieces of 3/4 pipe to hold the threaed rod (all pivot points 3/4 x 1-1/2 bolts) ?

Booty Fab lives ;)

seriously though, if anyone wants to see a pic of the one I made, I'd be happy to email you one. it is adjustable for 44s and 60s, and cost like $20 to make using all new steel and hardware from the local lowe's (didn't have time to scrounge at work for the free stuff)

Chad-

Well written story and pics! Sometime you've got to make do with what you have.
"The Apparatus" BWAHAHA! LOVE IT!!:) :)

Originally posted by chumly2071
All those fab skills and apparatus, and no one took 20 minutes to make a case spreader out of 3 pieces 1/2 x 2 flat bar, some 3/4 threaded rod and nuts, and two small pieces of 3/4 pipe to hold the threaed rod (all pivot points 3/4 x 1-1/2 bolts) ?

Booty Fab lives ;)

seriously though, if anyone wants to see a pic of the one I made, I'd be happy to email you one. it is adjustable for 44s and 60s, and cost like $20 to make using all new steel and hardware from the local lowe's (didn't have time to scrounge at work for the free stuff)

Chad-

I would like to see some pics. I thought of doing this myself. E-mail to sittowj@auburn.edu

Originally posted by SniperFire


And for suggesting that you can find better tech elsewhere on the net than PBB you get the coveted award to display in your trophie cabinet...

http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/images/assclown.jpg

Redneck tech is the shiznit :D

Who was watching the manure pit while you guys were doing this? :flipoff2:

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen!!!

'round these parts we don't use dem fancy schmancy jackstand thinger-ma-bobs, we all jus chain da axemal to a couple er big damn logs, so's we can skid it 'round the yard in two-by drive, if'n ya mount da logs to da knuckles and hook yer z-bar drag link to da log you can even steer kinda, dat way wez just gotta chain da carrier to a pole, da trailer house, er momma's leg and throw dat fur-by-fur inta da backwards gear, one er two good jerks and dat carrier pops right out. Werks good to chain it to momma's leg cuz then she can catch the gear thing and keep it nice an' clean and out of da cow shit.

That's a mighty fine picture of yer girlfirend on the grille of yer fur-by-fur, she gotta sista?

good story...i dig it.

Originally posted by 4Bangler
That's a mighty fine picture of yer girlfirend on the grille of yer fur-by-fur, she gotta sista?

http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/competitions/lousa02/agy.jpg

some serious hightech redneck shit, i love it. but you two do go about the hardest way possible to do shit don't ya. mike

My fave. "fawkin circus hammer"

:D :D :D :D

Dan

who needs a spreader? the case self spreads when you pull the carrier from one side!

Originally posted by chumly2071
All those fab skills and apparatus, and no one took 20 minutes to make a case spreader out of 3 pieces 1/2 x 2 flat bar, some 3/4 threaded rod and nuts, and two small pieces of 3/4 pipe to hold the threaed rod (all pivot points 3/4 x 1-1/2 bolts) ?

Booty Fab lives ;)



Chad-

We had a case spreader, but that motherfawker was stuck! Besides, we already had "The Apparatus" just sitting there not being used.

Originally posted by gunracer1
but you two do go about the hardest way possible to do shit don't ya. mike

I thought you already knew this:confused: , I mean, don't you remember when we pulled the axles and third member out of skeetshooters front axle just to beat the diff cover back out at 2:00am at the base of powerline instead of just driving back to camp.

Then 30 minutes later we attempted to repair a blown power steering line with hoseclamps and fuel line.

Then the next morning skeetshooter just welded the hole in the line with my wire feed instead of driving to town to get another one. Don't you remember Mike?

Of course we could have done it the easy way, but that's for pussies:flipoff2:

Hell, it ain't no fun doing shit the easy way :D

What's really scary, is that Confederate 4x4 now owns 3 lathes and a Bridgeport mill, there is no telling what will happen........

I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

That's right not only do we build killer diffs but we now do Computer repair. I just brought this one back from the dead.

Bring us your PC

Are YA Scared?

Was the APPARATUS or Circus Hammer involved?

Originally posted by SniperFire
Originally posted by 4Bangler
That's a mighty fine picture of yer girlfirend on the grille of yer fur-by-fur, she gotta sista?

http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/competitions/lousa02/agy.jpg

I think this is what you were shooting for, very nice.

http://www.darksiderz.co.uk/competitions/lousa02/images/agy_jpg.jpg

:cool: I think you bootie fabbers could kick some serious ass in Junkyard Wars :p

Originally posted by Hayraker
Was the APPARATUS or Circus Hammer involved?

im guessing a LOT of both!!

love the chrome pig!!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1034294

So, is it part of the formula to have the cover bolts installed at this point?

You know, it's a helluva lot easier with to pry bars on the ring gear bolts :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Hayraker
I thought you already knew this:confused: , I mean, don't you remember when we pulled the axles and third member out of skeetshooters front axle just to beat the diff cover back out at 2:00am at the base of powerline instead of just driving back to camp.

Then 30 minutes later we attempted to repair a blown power steering line with hoseclamps and fuel line.

Then the next morning skeetshooter just welded the hole in the line with my wire feed instead of driving to town to get another one. Don't you remember Mike?


i remember.......well sort of:flipoff2: