: That 60 degree Isuzu AW4 bellhousing...


Indy Will
06-02-2011, 12:56 PM
Pardon my noob-ness to Isuzu's... I've exhausted my online searching abilities for the day as well...

Everything I've read mentions the 3.5 for the AW4 bellhousing.

I've located a 2004 Rodeo with a 3.2 locally that's willing to sale just the bellhousing... Same trans and bellhousing?

p575
06-02-2011, 01:18 PM
is he trying to sale it or sell it?

Indy Will
06-02-2011, 01:25 PM
Sail. It's coming across the pond.






I had 'for sale' typed and then edited...




Douche.

R.DesJardin
06-02-2011, 01:37 PM
I am very sure the AW autos are in some V6 Isuzus just under a different name, using a GM 60* bolt pattern yes, but Aisin Warner trans none the less. There is a write up about a guy bolt a 3800SC onto his AW trans you have probably seen. I'm guess either a Northstar swap or a SC 3800 swap in a new car?

More info
"I'm saying that the 2004 Rodeo *does* use the AW 30-80 family tranny, and that it is a better tranny IMO. They *did* use them in the past in the 2.6 automatic Trooper in the '88 - '91 time frame. That was the A340H. They went to the 4L30-E in the 90's and around 2002 or 2003 started switching back to the A340 family of trans again. For 2004, *all* 3.2/3.5 automatic Rodeo and Axiom's I've seen (about 15 total at different dealers) are the AW tranny."

Jaybird323
06-02-2011, 04:07 PM
there is a difference between the 60* gm engines and the *60 isuzu engines which the 3.2/3.5 is.

R.DesJardin
06-02-2011, 04:10 PM
there is a difference between the 60* gm engines and the *60 isuzu engines which the 3.2/3.5 is.

Yes, different engines same bolt pattern. Google it up there is several guys that have swapped in Buick 3800's and Aurora V8's. I've found lotsa info on this.

Jaybird323
06-02-2011, 04:44 PM
Im going by what JLEMOND says right here.

http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?t=40304&highlight=degree

and the 3.2L and 3.5L are the same engine, use the same computer, the 3.5L just puts out a little bit more power.

And over on planetisuzoo.com JLEMOND is a retired isuzu master tech that pretty much knows all when it comes to these trucks.

R.DesJardin
06-02-2011, 05:08 PM
Here is what I found about swaps: http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/trooper/AuroraSwap.html
http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-41019.html

Indy Will
06-02-2011, 08:22 PM
and the 3.2L and 3.5L are the same engine, use the same computer, the 3.5L just puts out a little bit more power.
I had read that somewhere as well. I just didn't know if they decided to use a different trans on the 3.2 with less power.

Even if it's got a 60 degree on the motor side I need it to have the Jeep aw4 pattern on the trans side.


I'll check out all the links. Just got back to this. Thanks.

Jaybird323
06-02-2011, 08:30 PM
Ive read that the jeep aw4, ax5, toyota r150f and r151 will bolt up to the 3.2 and 3.5. Atleast the bell housing will.

Indy Will
06-02-2011, 08:38 PM
For 2004, *all* 3.2/3.5 automatic Rodeo and Axiom's I've seen (about 15 total at different dealers) are the AW tranny.

That's sounding better.



Didn't I chat with you about a tap shifter for the my KOH car a couple years ago?


I'll be getting your aw4 full manual shifter if I can get this thing bolted up behind my 2.5 TJ. Racing A Class in ECORS (www.ecors.com) with it. I've pushed the ax5 too far.

R.DesJardin
06-02-2011, 08:58 PM
That's sounding better.



Didn't I chat with you about a tap shifter for the my KOH car a couple years ago?


I'll be getting your aw4 full manual shifter if I can get this thing bolted up behind my 2.5 TJ. Racing A Class in ECORS (www.ecors.com) with it. I've pushed the ax5 too far.

Yeah, thought I recognized your sig. Keep searching you'll find what you need. I tried to get a trans. from a Rodeo but the guys hosed me on it. Been wanting to do a swap using the Isuzu bell housing.

ECORS
06-02-2011, 10:02 PM
Will,

Have you asked Joe Darlington about it? How he talks about his Isuzus I'd be surprised if he didn't know your answer.

BigSwede
06-03-2011, 01:53 PM
and the 3.2L and 3.5L are the same engine, use the same computer, the 3.5L just puts out a little bit more power.


For 98+ motors, yes, the 3.5L is basically a stroked 3.2L. However, the 92-97 Isuzu 3.2L is a different motor entirely. Just a point of clarification.