Ok I am building a set of 60s right now, and am going to use 35 spline outers and was going to get some Warn Hubs but then I stumbled on these tera hubs, which are about 50 bucks cheaper than the Warns.

But, I also heard that they are Rebadged Milemarkers and Ive also heard that the 30 spline Milemarkers are very weak:( So Im wondering how they are holding up?

Thanks
:cool:

ask bigdude about milemarker hubs :D

You are building a set of 60s, don't cheap out. Its only $50, you'll regret it and then spend more on a set of Warn hubs.

Just stick to what is tried and true, especially building an expensive axle to begin with. :D

ask bigdude about milemarker hubs

Why? What do hubs have to do with holding the end of a rope?

Sorry BD....I couldn't resist :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Jason R
You are building a set of 60s, don't cheap out. Its only $50, you'll regret it and then spend more on a set of Warn hubs.

Just stick to what is tried and true, especially building an expensive axle to begin with. :D

Exactly:flipoff2: I was trying to save some money cuz this chit is expensive:p I know a couple of guys here have bought them and was looking for first hand experience. And I know about bigdudes experience with MM 30 spline hubs, but I dont know if the 35s are any better, hence the question:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Oh, and Billavista Im ROTFLMAO:bounce: :bounce2: :laughing:

Originally posted by BillaVista


Why? What do hubs have to do with holding the end of a rope?

Sorry BD....I couldn't resist :flipoff2:

Maybe they send you a Pink Izod with them.:flipoff2:

Cmon, anyone break one yet?:flipoff2:

Don't know about the terra low hubs, but I did break a Warn hub and got a free replacement thanks to the lifetime warranty. Go Warn.

I am building a 60 with 35 outters also.....I have a set of WARN hubs but since I'm running a ARB in the front I'm thinking of running the 35 spline Warn "slugs" so I don't have to get out to unlock the front ......anyone have any idea to get a set from.......Thanks in advance guys.........

:beer: :beer:

Originally posted by Shaker
I am building a 60 with 35 outters also.....I have a set of WARN hubs but since I'm running a ARB in the front I'm thinking of running the 35 spline Warn "slugs" so I don't have to get out to unlock the front ......anyone have any idea to get a set from.......Thanks in advance guys.........

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Yea i called a local buddy who is a warn dealer, the warn drive flange part # is 39346, for 35 spl. The kit is actually called like rear 60 FF flange or something crazy like that. It is like 200 buks. Yea thats right more expensive than hubs, but bad ass.

Ian-

Originally posted by Curtis
Don't know about the terra low hubs, but I did break a Warn hub and got a free replacement thanks to the lifetime warranty. Go Warn.

Well the teralows are lifetime warrantied too, but Im leaning towards the warns since the teralows arent proven yet.

Originally posted by COMPLAINE


Yea i called a local buddy who is a warn dealer, the warn drive flange part # is 39346, for 35 spl. The kit is actually called like rear 60 FF flange or something crazy like that. It is like 200 buks. Yea thats right more expensive than hubs, but bad ass.

Ian-

Another reason I'm gonna run the slugs is I have "Heard" that they sometimes can be a pain in getting them fully engaged...they also need to go a full 9/10 of a turn to engage and require a little "rocking" of the vehicle to fully engage them also....Hitting the ARB switch would be much easier....

Yeah I was told that the 35 spline Warn hubs were actually for a rear axle application also. If anyone needs the Part # here it is for the 35 spline "Lock Out" hubs Warn Part # 62672

Didnt dana ever make a full time front 60? that warn crap is expensive

Originally posted by NE-RokToy
Didnt dana ever make a full time front 60? that warn crap is expensive

Yep they did, and the spicer 35 spline stuff comes out to like180 once you get the dust cover snap rings and drive flanges.

It just seamed easy to order one part and get all you need, and as another not the warn stuff has a stout dust cover, and it would be my guess that it seals out mud and water much better than the hammer on cheasy spicer dust cap.

Ian-

I have the Teralow hubs, but they just got put on a week ago, haven't beat on them yet (may not until spring, I hate winter wheeling personally).

I decided on trying the Tera's (which definitely are Milemarkers, comes with a little plastic Milemarker "hubber" thingy) after reading nothing but troubles on here regarding the Warns (as mentioned above by Shaker). Do a search, you will see what I mean.

I'm probably going to get slugs for when I'm wheeling (going hydro assist and possibly ARB).

Charly

The 35 spline rear FF hubs use a machined ring for whatever reason. This ring causes the need to rock the rig back and forth while turning the hub to get it engaged. Just remove the ring and throw it away. :flipoff2:

For the set screw issue.... buy the following from a hardware store:
1 short set-screw (about 3/16 inch)
1 spring (smaller in diameter than the set-screw)
1 BB (bearing)

Replace the Warn set screw with the BB/spring/set-screw combination. You'll have to trim the spring short enough that it allows the BB to slide out of the detent within the hub.

Or you could replace the outer dial with a 30 spline version. I don't think his has the postitive detents though.

Randy's Ring and Pinion has the Spicer drive flanges...and don't forget the caps...

Hmmm, seems like 6 of one 1/2 dozen the other, I guess Ill try the teralows and let you all know when they explode:p

this works for me...

i converted a closed knuckle m715 dana60 to 35 splines all the way across. i ended up with the stub axles sticking out 1/2 inch further than a regular dodge/chevy dana 60. plus the pattern to bolt it up is different.
so our answer.
we took 1/2 inch mild steel, and 35 spline spider gears. we used a hole saw with a bunch of oil and low rpms to drill the center hole out........

i have beating them,so far they are doing great

Mike

Originally posted by dmeis
The 35 spline rear FF hubs use a machined ring for whatever reason. This ring causes the need to rock the rig back and forth while turning the hub to get it engaged. Just remove the ring and throw it away. :flipoff2:

Yup...those stupid rings seem to negate the one main advantage of Warns (over the OE Spicers, anyway), their ease of use.

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For the set screw issue.... buy the following from a hardware store:
1 short set-screw (about 3/16 inch)
1 spring (smaller in diameter than the set-screw)
1 BB (bearing)

Replace the Warn set screw with the BB/spring/set-screw combination. You'll have to trim the spring short enough that it allows the BB to slide out of the detent within the hub.

Or you could replace the outer dial with a 30 spline version. I don't think his has the postitive detents though.

I thought about that, but was looking into another solution. The same thing can be accomplished with a vlier pin, its basically a set screw with a spring-loaded ball in the end. I haven't gotten around to finding one that fits yet, though.

Pete

Fucking Canadians :flipoff2:


Skip milemarker or anyone who re-badges their stuff ;) I sheared the outside "teeth" off the inner splined piece and so did others. If they are Milemarker and have the same design then you could have the same problem.

Bringing this post back to top for any new info.
I am sick of breaking my Warns and prefer not to use drive flanges YET !!!
Anyone use these with good results?
It seems that the warn 35 spline hubs don't fully engage into the slding mechanism, and the end of the gear shears. What good is a lifetime warranty if the shit can't stay together?
Thanks, Ricky...seeya...

Hubs are :rainbow:

Use driveflanges.

I don't know of any "stronger" hubs than Warn's, but Pig at Polyperformance.com makes a nice set of drive flanges. :beer:

Originally posted by Jason R
I don't know of any "stronger" hubs than Warn's, but Pig at Polyperformance.com makes a nice set of drive flanges. :beer:

Yes, we got them done up. I have been working on the site all day and will post a link to the new improved drive gear page in a few hours.

Originally posted by Lance
Hubs are :rainbow:

Use driveflanges.

True dat, sucka foo

My father in law has had them on as a "test for a weekend" kinda thing since last Sept. and he hasn't broken one yet. But just to prove that he has been testing them here's the list of broken 60 parts that broke before the Tera/MM hubs

2- Moser Inner Axles
3- Moser 35 spl outers
1- Factory Chevy Spindle
2- Richmond 5.13 R& P's
1- Detroit Locker

Still haven't broke a single CTM with all the rest of the carnage, hell when the shaft exploded it took us 20 minutes of digging through mud and water in Tellico before we found the caps, put them back in and they held up through another Moser shaft. So all you Warn fans:flipoff2:

From personal experience, lifetime warranty sucks ass if you need 4 wd to get home after they break, and they will. Go with slugs or spicer's broached to 35 spline. I am having a set of each broached right now- I'll post pics when I get them back. SLUGS will NOT let you down.
fwiw- warn is good about warranting them but it's a pain to swap them out...

MileMarker does sell some hubs to Tera but I am not sure if they are the top of the line units. They do make D44 / D60 and D70 hubs with Stainless Steel bodies and large internals made out of a high grade ductile iron, usually shops don't carry those though. I have sold quite a few...no problems yet.

We had a set of the tera low 35 splien hubs at the shop and they are all metal no plastic or nylon parts in them. Cheap too, $130 i think for a set.

Originally posted by TR
We had a set of the tera low 35 splien hubs at the shop and they are all metal no plastic or nylon parts in them. Cheap too, $130 i think for a set.

Please let me know if y'all still have the set.
Thanks, Ricky...seeya...

hey, what about us poor bastards with external hubs?
I like pig's flanges, but the $$ is too painful.

Alright, I ended up getting the warn hubs with set screws, been running em hard for about 4 months now and other than the outside getting beat to hell(they stick out past the wheel with my 17x9 with 4.5" Bs) they have held up well. However, since they are such a pita to engage I just leave em engaged all the time now. Well, I just read this thread again and decided to try dmeis's suggestion and just wanted to make sure I removed the right part;p anyway, here is a pic of what I took out. Thanks,;)

These 35 spline S.S. locking hubs are Milemarker, one year ago tera ordered 200 of these with there logo on the cap. Big dude- give it a rest, if you had put the cap on right those milemarker's would still be going strong. steve

Yup, that's the part to throw away.

I have been running my Warn Premiums for 6 months now and have had no problems what so ever. Either engagement, disengagment or breakage. :D

Originally posted by steve gerstner
Big dude- give it a rest

Uh.... That post is 6 months old. Really looks like I'm beating it to death :rolleyes:

You will eventually bend the inners in the cap of the premiums, with or without the set screw. Warn has had problems with this from the start. Put drive flanges in and forget about it, or put the plastic 30 spline caps on.

get cheap hubs, then switch to 35 spline outers, with flanges for sure.

Originally posted by bigdude
Fucking Canadians :flipoff2:

No sense blaming the suppliers of your clean water , natural gas, electricity and lumber to build houses and well shall I go on...

Sometimes I wonder where you people came from...
FUCKING AMERICANS:flipoff2: http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/carto1710.gif

Originally posted by Sundowner
hey, what about us poor bastards with external hubs?
I like pig's flanges, but the $$ is too painful.

We're SOL for 35-spline lockouts. I managed to find a set of NOS spicer 35-spline drive flanges off an open-knuckle 70 front crate axle; they were going to put on new internal-splined hubs from Six States and run the Warns. Reading this thread and the other, I'm glad that they made that decision and not me. :D Before finding those, I had a wild scheme in mind to modify a couple sets of 35-spline side gears and use 3/8" plate for the bodies; one set welded in, and another set running in Torrington bearings. It would take removal of the dust cover, snap ring, and eight bolts to go from flanged to "unlocked" and that's certainly not very convenient, but I don't have the time to design and machine a one-off set of selectables that I'd be happy about using. Now that I've got 'em, I'm just going to run the flanges. Screwing with something that simple seems a lot like what the white knight said to Alice:
"But I was thinking of a plan
to dye one's whiskers green
and then to use so large a fan
that they could not be seen."