Yesterday me and to other rigs made it to Meadow Lake and down to the trail!!! I was the first person on the trail!!! F--K Ya!!! I will try to post pics.:flipoff2:

awesome!

:smokin:Sweet

Pics or it never happened. :flipoff2:

Yesterday me and to other rigs made it to Meadow Lake and down to the trail!!! I was the first person on the trail!!! F--K Ya!!! I will try to post pics.:flipoff2:
Were you with the guy in the Dodge or the guy in the Early Bronco who went in from the top on Friday? I walked up to the top of Motorhome Hill to check snow conditions on Friday, and there's for certain still a good bit of snow, but I'm stoked with how fast it is melting!

Randii

It happend!!!I dont know how to post pics.We went on sunday.There was a Tan Toyota and tin top sammy at the first camp site at Meadow. it took 2.5 hr to get to Meadow. I was with two jeeps and me in my 4 seater f-toy the red one that is always on the trail

Shit how do u post pics. Igot grate pics

I have pics on Facebook.Go to Chronic Crawlers.

Me too.:flipoff2: Buy a red star.

Me too.:flipoff2: Buy a red star.

You don't have to have a red star to post photos:shaking:


http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/woodytoyota/piazzamount-2.jpg

Photobucket!

Holy chit Meadow Lake

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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.10150303229686635

Rich's photos from FB. Nicely done!

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=677&pictureid=12022

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=677&pictureid=12021

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=677&pictureid=12019

Awesome!!

Nice pictures Rich! Good to hear someone was on the trail besides down to the first crossing.

Thanks for posting my pics. We are going to go back on fridaynight. Camping at Meadow. Sat down to the river!!!!!!! To camp and make fun of the peaple on the other side

Look for us on the Cisco side. :D

Also please take pictures of any trouble spots on your way down from Meadow. Downed trees ect. Better bring a good sized chainsaw.

Email to jeff@fordycetrail.org

Thanks!

team chronic has issues

Damn lots of snow up there still. Bad Ass. How were the skeeters?

Skeeters where f--ked up.Used half a can :(

Thanks for posting my pics. We are going to go back on fridaynight. Camping at Meadow. Sat down to the river!!!!!!! To camp and make fun of the peaple on the other side

We will be attempting to make Meadow from the Bowman side, look for us saturday morning, about 3 to 5 rigs.

We will be attempting to make Meadow from the Bowman side, look for us saturday morning, about 3 to 5 rigs.

what is the bowman side ......route?

what is the bowman side ......route?

www.ghosttowns.com/states/ca/meadowlake.html

There are a bunch of us heading in from Cisco Grove friday night. Be interesting to see how the melt goes over the next couple of days.

There are a bunch of us heading in from Cisco Grove friday night. Be interesting to see how the melt goes over the next couple of days.

If cisco entry is taken does it put you on the other side of the river heading up to winch hill 5?

No.

From Eagle lakes it goes:
1st H2o Crossing
Winch Hill #1
2nd H2o Crossing
Winch Hill #2
3rd H2o Crossing
Committee Crossing (back to Cisco)
Winch Hill #3
Winch Hill #4
Winch Hill #5
Meadow Lake

So, from Cisco you need to do Committee Crossing & then you can hit 3-5, or go down & hit 3-1 H2o Crossings & WHs 2-1

EDIT: There are other important/know trail markers & hills, which I did not mention.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=527701&stc=1&d=1275967804

So the guys going in from cisco fri night can only travel between water crossing 2-3. Thanks for the info I was going to go up friday night and travel from meadow to winch hill 3 but thought that csco up to meadow would be fun. Due to last weekends trip to first water crossing and seeing flow I doubt any other crossing is doable either

if you go in through cisco down Rattlesnake road you will have to cross the Committee crossing to do ANY of the trail. FYI that crossing is typically the fastest and deepest of them all

We will be attempting to make Meadow from the Bowman side, look for us saturday morning, about 3 to 5 rigs.

Good luck that way. I rode that route a bunch last year on my dirtbike and it seems as though most of that route sees hardly any sun.

I was the tin top Sammy at meadow lake. We cleared about 5-6 trees off the trail. It was nice having meadow lake all to ourselves. Little cold though.

I have seen this page in a book before what. I was on the trail a guy had it. What book or map book is it?
Damn thought it would post with the other post, so refering to 5 post up^

FunTreks Guidebooks

Good luck that way. I rode that route a bunch last year on my dirtbike and it seems as though most of that route sees hardly any sun.

We made it to Tollhouse lake on the 4th, it took some work, but we figure we can get further two weeks later.

Just got a report from a buddy who lives up there, seems the snow on that north side is not melting as fast as we hoped, probably going to Cisco instead.

I goofed. Only been up there once, so forgive the newbie! We're going in eagles lake. Don't know how far we'll make it but planning to have a good time. We'll have about 7 rigs with us.

I goofed. Only been up there once, so forgive the newbie! We're going in eagles lake. Don't know how far we'll make it but planning to have a good time. We'll have about 7 rigs with us.

Jason, you'll get to the first water crossing.. people have already been there.

Be careful though. Unfamiliarity w/ what is too deep to cross could ruin the run ;). If it's all you in samis I'd say don't cross over 300cfs.

Just got a report from a buddy who lives up there, seems the snow on that north side is not melting as fast as we hoped, probably going to Cisco instead.

how much trail can be done from cisco? i thought this only brought you in to the river whih is too high to cross

how much trail can be done from cisco? i thought this only brought you in to the river whih is too high to cross

If your going this way you will hit the committee crossing down frodyce lake the worst of all the creek crossings, though it's a good trail ride down to the creek crossing.
Is fordyce even accessible?

If your going this way you will hit the committee crossing down frodyce lake the worst of all the creek crossings, though it's a good trail ride down to the creek crossing.
Is fordyce even accessible?

The river is moving very fast and the water is deep. On top of that the "good" lines will need to be rediscovered after the 2700+cfs release not too long ago. The short answer...not crossable yet.

With that being said the trail is usable on the Eagle Lakes side up to the 1st water crossing. Also, meadow lake has been reached and you may be able to get to some trail from the top side.

I planned to try and make it to winch hill 3 from meadow lake and then back up on sat. With people mentioning cisco I was just making sure Im not missing out on another route in. Last weekend I went to first water crossing and the flow was huge so figured all water crossings are non passable till dam release is stopped or limited

FYI

Dreamflows is showing 350cfs! It looks like it peaked on July 6-7 at 2500 cfs and has been going down everyday since. That being said it could be a product of the cooler temps and reduced snow melt, so it could come back up at any time.

I would be VERY cautious in even considering a crossing until it is sub 150 cfs.

The only way on the trail is throw Meadow Lake and lots of snow.It is about 1.1/2 hr fron eagle to Meadow staging on the hwy.:mad3::mad3:

FYI

Dreamflows is showing 350cfs! It looks like it peaked on July 6-7 at 2500 cfs and has been going down everyday since. That being said it could be a product of the cooler temps and reduced snow melt, so it could come back up at any time.

I would be VERY cautious in even considering a crossing until it is sub 150 cfs.

As Pepe said....350 is no joke. It seems low because it was so high only a few weeks ago. After adding in tributaries, which are not accounted for in Dream Flows, it is substantially more than 350. Also the changing temps will affect the river flow. As the day warms up the creeks really start to increase flow. Keep an eye out for thunder showers as well.

Never Piazza'd a spring mount.. LOL!


You don't have to have a red star to post photos:shaking:


http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q252/woodytoyota/piazzamount-2.jpg

Never Piazza'd a spring mount.. LOL!

I know, but this is how that picture came along.:laughing:

Piazza'd (http://fourdice4x4.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120)

Never Piazza'd a spring mount.. LOL!

High lifting the body off the frame was, and still is, very entertaining. :flipoff2:

no its not

Spoke to PGE and they are currently filling the lake back up. They are at 103 feet and need to go to 114 before they will decide to spill more water or not depending on temp and melt.

They have closed the spillway and the release is coming out the needle now.

So might it be possible to cross this weekend?

[QUOTE=chainrnng;13116477]If cisco entry is taken does it put you on the other side of the river heading up to winch hill 5?[/QUOTE

really...

sorry

Fordyce is not for the faint of heart

look at the map, if this is your first time, make new friends and become part of their group.. C U at Cisco Grove Saturday morning...

So might it be possible to cross this weekend?

Jason,

MMMM....no. :D

We are going to run up Saturday for a day run to see how far we can get up Signal Peak, and then maybe go play on Drive Line till dark.

Meeting at Eagle Lakes Staging area at 10AM. You are welcome to join us.

Jason,

MMMM....no. :D

We are going to run up Saturday for a day run to see how far we can get up Signal Peak, and then maybe go play on Drive Line till dark.

Meeting at Eagle Lakes Staging area at 10AM. You are welcome to join us.

Bebe Ill be camping around first water crossing on the trail fri night Ill look for you at staging 10ish on sat.........My plan subject to change if my buddy talks me into driving down to committee fri night from meadow
jason

Ran in to Meadow from 89 today, started hitting snow at mile 4 Meadow Lake Road. It appears those that have already been through this way had to work for it. Still lots of snow, here are a couple pics...

Thats so impressive the amount of snow up there still and Meadow being partially frozen. Epic winter.

Ran in to Meadow from 89 today, started hitting snow at mile 4 Meadow Lake Road. It appears those that have already been through this way had to work for it. Still lots of snow, here are a couple pics...
Great pics... I've been up the last two Fridays including yesterday, and it is impressive how fast the snow is melting. Motorhome hill is a third uncovered this week, after having only a few percent uncovered a week ago, and the drifts on the way in are melting fast. We have a few weeks' worth of time, and then Trek is gonna be a blast this year!

Randii

Spent the night here at top of driveline. At least 15 rigs passed through just before midnight on the way to the river

First river crossing was fine rigs crossing all day spending the night tonight just before winch hill 1

Pics or it didn't happen! What size/weight rigs? How "safe" was it?

15-18 rigs crossed smallest was my buddy's stock 4 runner with 33 tires ifs

Bebe Ill be camping around first water crossing on the trail fri night Ill look for you at staging 10ish on sat.........My plan subject to change if my buddy talks me into driving down to committee fri night from meadow
jason

Sorry we missed you. We headed up signal peak and got stopped by huge drifts about 1/2 mile from the top.

Headed back down to fix a broken rig on drive line for another friend. Talked to George who said he had crossed the river at the first crossing. Had a great day - the weather was awesome.

15-18 rigs crossed smallest was my buddy's stock 4 runner with 33 tires ifs
Great! Thanx for the info!

Help steering broke stuck on trail near winch hill 1 my buddy is bringing parts to trail head need a rig to bring out parts or a welder
Jason cell 5303681530

Made it to Meadow and down to the river:flipoff2: SO you can it to the trail but ther is still 10 foot drifs. PLEASE Try to go in throw Meadow!!!!We nead to try to clear the road for Sierra Trek:eek:.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!l on the trail. There was a dog death in another group.The truck rould over and dog ended up under the cage.:(

PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!l on the trail. There was a dog death in another group.The truck rould over and dog ended up under the cage.:(

Was that the blue toyota sat night?

That sucks!

Sorry to the owner.

So am I correct in thinking that getting to the top end of the trail via Meadow and then down to Committee and back shouldn't be an issue at this time for an average rig on 37's? I might head up that way this weekend.

I would think down at the 3rd crossing (wide/double) it would be pretty easy to cross so I could get down as far as the 2nd crossing and the water fall if we feel like going that far, and then back up and out.

15-18 rigs crossed smallest was my buddy's stock 4 runner with 33 tires ifs

I hear he crossed dead weight? Someone in a bigger rig pulled him across. Is this true? If so good job for thinking ahead and preventing problems. But if you did pull him you shouldn't tell people he “crossed”. The water is still high and strong. I would not “drive” a rig with 33's across right now. People will read your post and think they can drive any stock rig across.

If I'm wrong, sorry and I will delete my post. Just looking out for peoples safety and our sport! :beer:

So am I correct in thinking that getting to the top end of the trail via Meadow and then down to Committee and back shouldn't be an issue at this time for an average rig on 37's? I might head up that way this weekend.

I would think down at the 3rd crossing (wide/double) it would be pretty easy to cross so I could get down as far as the 2nd crossing and the water fall if we feel like going that far, and then back up and out.

From the committee crossing up to FD Lake there is only one spot that that has snow. Right where the mini avalanche is the snow is slushy and could require a little extra effort. Nothing major though. From the lake to the summit there are a few spots with a lot of snow and large holes. But a locked rig on 37” should motor up it.

Scott on committee close to the summit (http://youtu.be/35haaMYx_po)

Someone please sckool me on how to embed a youtube video!

I hear he crossed dead weight? Someone in a bigger rig pulled him across. Is this true? If so good job for thinking ahead and preventing problems. But if you did pull him you shouldn't tell people he “crossed”. The water is still high and strong. I would not “drive” a rig with 33's across right now. People will read your post and think they can drive any stock rig across.

If I'm wrong, sorry and I will delete my post. Just looking out for peoples safety and our sport! :beer:

yes he was dead weight engine off however I was being safe......there were 3 rigs on the other side 33 inch tires whom did make it. Caution though on our way back the river was much higher or harder to cross. Water went over his hood up to windshield and he floated. According to dream flows website the flow only increased 50 more cfm than our morning trip but I tell you that 50 cfm increase scared the p**p out of me in my rig full size dodge 5 inch lift on 37's

Regardless of what dreamflows says, the the water is pretty high. Our group all run 42's and the crossing definitely gets your attention. The picture here is rockybar crossing committee sunday morning, he is linked, running 42's and sits pretty high.

From the committee crossing up to FD Lake there is only one spot that that has snow. Right where the mini avalanche is the snow is slushy and could require a little extra effort. Nothing major though. From the lake to the summit there are a few spots with a lot of snow and large holes. But a locked rig on 37” should motor up it.

Scott on committee close to the summit (http://youtu.be/35haaMYx_po)

Someone please sckool me on how to embed a youtube video!

Scott was the man that night, no fear of the skinny pedal. :smokin:

I got stuck and had to winch about 20 feet past where he is in the video.

Regardless of what dreamflows says, the the water is pretty high. Our group all run 42's and the crossing definitely gets your attention. The picture here is rockybar crossing committee sunday morning, he is linked, running 42's and sits pretty high.
When the rock in the water, just below the dog, is under.... I dont cross.

From the committee crossing up to FD Lake there is only one spot that that has snow. Right where the mini avalanche is the snow is slushy and could require a little extra effort. Nothing major though. From the lake to the summit there are a few spots with a lot of snow and large holes. But a locked rig on 37” should motor up it.


I didn't ask about committee, I'm asking about the other side of the trail (and the road) from 89 thru Meadow to the 2nd/3rd crossing.

I'm not crossing Committee @ 350. 300 is about my safe limit.
I'm on 37's but fairly low, which is good for almost everything except deep fast moving water...

I didn't ask about committee, I'm asking about the other side of the trail (and the road) from 89 thru Meadow to the 2nd/3rd crossing.

I'm not crossing Committee @ 350. 300 is about my safe limit.
I'm on 37's but fairly low, which is good for almost everything except deep fast moving water...

Ah...I missed the part about going back up to Meadow.

Regardless of what dreamflows says, the the water is pretty high. Our group all run 42's and the crossing definitely gets your attention. The picture here is rockybar crossing committee sunday morning, he is linked, running 42's and sits pretty high.

I have video of the crossing.the second rig floted about 6 feet down river.That is us in the dackground(chronic chrawlers)

You can get in to Meadow on 33s if you know how to snow wheel.A Bronco with broken coil and know front driveline.He made it out with a hevy foot.:shaking:

You can get in to Meadow on 33s if you know how to snow wheel.A Bronco with broken coil and know front driveline.He made it out with a hevy foot.:shaking:

Shit i could have made it in my Taco..:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Sup with it Rich???:flipoff2:

I have video of the crossing.the second rig floted about 6 feet down river.That is us in the dackground(chronic chrawlers)

The second rig was my son, I was driving the green jeep. I would really like to see the video.

I didn't ask about committee, I'm asking about the other side of the trail (and the road) from 89 thru Meadow to the 2nd/3rd crossing.

I'm not crossing Committee @ 350. 300 is about my safe limit.
I'm on 37's but fairly low, which is good for almost everything except deep fast moving water...

Erik, you will do fine going in Meadow and down to the river. I know your rig and the rigs that went down there.

Thanks- just noticed the river dropped to 260ish too. No longer an issue if it stays that way. :D

So do you guys think we could get tow rigs into meadow lake in a couple weeks?

I think a plow will be neaded to get threw the campsites to get to the meadows.the snow is melting at 2/3 feet a week.Dut ther are 10 foot drifs still.On facebook(chronic chrawlers) ther is a pic of a friends rig upsidedown in a 13foot hole.:shaking::shaking:

I think a plow will be neaded to get threw the campsites to get to the meadows.the snow is melting at 2/3 feet a week.Dut ther are 10 foot drifs still.On facebook(chronic chrawlers) ther is a pic of a friends rig upsidedown in a 13foot hole.:shaking::shaking:

Yeah Rich, is that the same dude who floped his shit on his lid last year from like 15" up?????

No.that was Chris in his 4runner at the botton of wintch hill 4. this is Neco on his 2nd trip in his new toy buggy.the 1st trip ended the same way at Moonrocks.

:smokin:

Had a fun trip all the way from Eagle Lakes out through Meadow Sat.

No snow on the trail but there is a TON of it up in the Meadow Lake area and on the road to Meadow Lake. Tons and tons of 4' drifts and a handful of 6-10' ones still as well. Water everywhere. No ice in the lake any more.

I would kind of discourage using the road for now as its pretty mucked up with mud holes and bypasses. Its melting fast, but I don't know if it will be clear in time for Sierra Trek!



PS- the initial climb on the mud "hole bypass" is on its way to turning into "Winch Hill One-half" :D

PS- the initial climb on the mud "hole bypass" is on its way to turning into "Winch Hill One-half" :D

Haha I was thinking the same thing. It just looks bad I didn't even spin a tire! Good name though. :laughing:

Went in Eagle lakes and out committee. Trail looked pretty good. Some logs in the trail between WH1 and committee.

Its melting fast, but I don't know if it will be clear in time for Sierra Trek!
Even if we have to plow, I expect to have the event.

Randii
Randy Burleson
Sierra Trek Chair 2011

I hope that we can get the Motorhomes in. Looking forward to the event, driving up from So. Cal.

I hope that we can get the Motorhomes in. Looking forward to the event, driving up from So. Cal.
Don't worry -- there's more talk about snow than actual snow, IMHO.

We're three weeks out from the event, and the majority of the road in is high-quality gravel-over-roadbase road that holds up well to wet conditions. As for the snow, it is melting quickly, and temperatures are trending up, and traffic is going up, and... :D

Randii