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Old 11-20-2011, 01:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Thanks for the time on the phone the other day. Looking forward to running these in the new ultra4 racer. Any ideas on internal axle seals for 40 spline axles in the torq housing?

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Old 11-20-2011, 10:04 PM   #27 (permalink)
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So are these the new go over the solid offering? Seems they have some cool features over the soild product.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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It would be hard to compare the two diffs and I don't want this thread to get into a one is better than the other match, they both have their up and down points.

The Solid 14 has a lower price, is sand cast and uses a 2 bolt though bolted main cap.

The Super 14 is permanent mold cast, uses a 4 bolt main cap and costs more.

The biggest thing at this time is availability. If you call right now we can have a Super 14 shipped out to you ASAP. The Solid 14 is still going through production.

There is place for both diffs in the market and Solid has a great reputation for being a solid company.

Torq Axle is working to build their reputation as a great company as well and to do that they know they need to get out the best product they can as fast as they can.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Thanks for the time on the phone the other day. Looking forward to running these in the new ultra4 racer. Any ideas on internal axle seals for 40 spline axles in the torq housing?

No worries Steve, you've been one of the longest on the waiting list for a 14 bolt drop out of some kind, now with the Super 14 availability we can get you into one soon.

For the inner seals, we've been recommending the 450068n (National seal) and just machine up a small ring to hold it in place. We should have those rings available as soon as I can get working on the Super 14 we have here.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:56 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Another 6 unit off the mill about an hour ago.



Housings on the rack and shipping.



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Will both drop outs fit in both housings? Example... If a guy wanted to run Ruff Stuff housings would the super 14 style fit?
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:38 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The Super 14 uses a different housing than the Solid 14, but Roughstuff has them both!
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[QUOTE=Tech Tim;13641715]It would be hard to compare the two diffs and I don't want this thread to get into a one is better than the other match, they both have their up and down points.

It was not my intention to stur up any non sense, but with that being said it is going to be the MOST common question, every time. Thanks for the info.

Do these have a warranty, or is it that race type of thing where if you break it we will take care of you as long as you did not do something retarded like run it out of oil?

In terms of the axle seals could the rev 14 seals from Crane work? They do offer 40 spl options.
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Another 6 unit off the mill about an hour ago.



Looking good Jim, keep at it!
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Here are a couple pics of the current housing options.

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Can you post up or PM me info on the new pro gears?

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Old 11-22-2011, 11:48 AM   #37 (permalink)
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No info yet, Torq is still waiting on samples, hopefully we'll see something in a few weeks.
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It was not my intention to stir up any non sense, but with that being said it is going to be the MOST common question, every time. Thanks for the info.

No worries, just wanted to get that out there.


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Do these have a warranty, or is it that race type of thing where if you break it we will take care of you as long as you did not do something retarded like run it out of oil?

The warranty on these is best described as a common sense warranty:

If it broke when it shouldn't have, Torq will take care of it. If it broke because of something stupid you did, it is on you.



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In terms of the axle seals could the rev 14 seals from Crane work? They do offer 40 spl options.

No, the Crane seals are designed to work in a factory cast housing. We do have a seal collar that will work with the Roughstuff & Torq housings.


Yes, 40 spline option is offered and even encouraged.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:07 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Took a few measurements on the Super-14 last night to show how beefy this 3rd member is.


Bottom Flange:
This is the mounting flange on the bottom of the diff. At 1.5"s, it has some serious beef to it. Which of course is important when we are dealing with aluminum.






Side Flange: The mounting flange up the sides measure in at .619, so almost 5/8" thick. Net effect is a burly flange designed to keep flex to a minimum.





Bearing caps: Built from 6061-T6 and secured with 4 cap bolts, the Bearing caps are just plain burly. 2"s wide at the narrowest point, 2.100" at the cap bolt section and just over an inch thick gives the Super-14 some awesome torque loading capabilities.







I've done a few aluminum 9" 3rd members in years past for a few competitors and the bearing caps take a huge beating. The stouter the bearing caps, the longer the diff will hold together.
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Came by the shop and got to touch and drool all over this thing. All I can say is it is amazing!!! Beefy does not even begin to describe this diff. It is massive in all the right places. I cannot wait to see some more of these out in the world getting beat on, I don't think anyone is going to have ANY issues with strength on this diff.
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Ordered! Can't wait to get them under the rig
I better learn how to wait though.. once built they've still have to take the slow boat to Aus.

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can we get more shots of the torq made housing
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:03 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm swamped in the shop right trying to finish up a project that has been sitting here waaay too long. Once that is done and out of here I'll do a full inspection on the housing with measurements.

5.38 gears and bearings just showed up from Superior Axle & Gear and an Air Locker is on the way, sometime next week we'll show a full on how to build a Super 14.
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How about a clearance on the housing compared to a OE 14 Bolt? Is there a big difference in a 14bolt with a flat bottom kit like TMR Customs 15bolt kit?
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I don't need em yet, but I'll be calling for two thirds to keep as spares in a few months!
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How about a clearance on the housing compared to a OE 14 Bolt? Is there a big difference in a 14bolt with a flat bottom kit like TMR Customs 15bolt kit?

I might be able to drag an OE 14 bolt in here and compare them.


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I don't need em yet, but I'll be calling for two thirds to keep as spares in a few months!
Great, we've got them on the shelf!
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How about a clearance on the housing compared to a OE 14 Bolt? Is there a big difference in a 14bolt with a flat bottom kit like TMR Customs 15bolt kit?
The clearence is way mor that a shaved 14 bolt I just put them under my rig for koh front and rear I have 13" of ground clearence with 39.5 krawlers with 17 lbs of air in them that's the front clearence rearend is also 13" clearence with 39.5 krawlers same air pressure also. They seem to be holdin up pretty good but the true test is in acouple of weeks
My be Levi from torque or Tim can post some pics of the rig there under and it doesn't have a little motor by any means its a supercharged stroked ls1 with port and polished heads and a Nasty tune and cam
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To add to the info above. Here is the torq 14 housing next to a spider trax 9". It's bigger but not by much...






Does anyone have a write up on gear setup on the super 14's?
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The clearence is way mor that a shaved 14 bolt I just put them under my rig for koh front and rear I have 13" of ground clearence with 39.5 krawlers with 17 lbs of air in them that's the front clearence rearend is also 13" clearence with 39.5 krawlers same air pressure also. They seem to be holdin up pretty good but the true test is in acouple of weeks
My be Levi from torque or Tim can post some pics of the rig there under and it doesn't have a little motor by any means its a supercharged stroked ls1 with port and polished heads and a Nasty tune and cam
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