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we can go that way
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Location: Roswell NM
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fj80 high steer the way you need it
UPDATE (3/26/13) just got off the phone with my machinist, my foundry is bumping up the order and the parts can be machined alot sooner. this means about 5-6 weeks instead of 10-12 like i was planning. OVER THE NEXT 2 WEEKS I WILL GIVE 10 PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO SECURE THEIR SET AND SAVE $75. demand is higher than ever on these and this batch will sell out quick. the batch following this will be sometime around july or august. pm me to place your order if you want in on the discount/secured sets.
thanks, billy ![]() ![]() it's finally here. how many times have you seen a bent toyota front housing? or a sheared trunion pin? or broken steering studs? or huge wheel spacers that create a huge scrub radius that make it hard to steer? well i've seen it all, and the best solution to all these problems is to go with the toyota axle that was designed for a vehicle twice the weight of the mini axle. not to mention it's 8" wider, so no need for wheel spacers any more. i have personally run a stock fj80 axle under my truggy with full hydro, and it worked well. my problem was that my tie rod hit every rock in front of me and bent several times requiring straightening even though it was 1/4" wall chromolly. another thing was that every trip out i had to tighten my steering studs that constantly came loose. i sold my truggy to a friend and his first trip out to the hammers with it he broke the stock knuckle. not good. i have designed an all new knuckle casting that has beef added all the way around, but most importantly up top where the steering arm attaches to it. this arm is attached by 6 studs, the same size studs as you see with dana 60's. have you ever had to fight those pesky cone washers that don't want to come off the stud? me too, and i hate it. this is why i went with cone nuts, same as a lug nut. nothing to fight with, nothing to fly off and get lost under a rock on the trail. these studs are also placed far apart to make them even stronger by placing a lot less leverage on them. fj80 axles have larger knuckle balls which place the trunion bearings farther apart than mini axles, making them stronger. if that's not enough, the pins are 20mm as opposed to the mini axles 17mm pins. want even more? most mini axles are upgraded with IFS calipers and vented rotors. the fj80 brakes are already much bigger and better than the upgraded mini axle brakes, so you dont have to spend more money on upgrades. here's one more thing- longfield super axles makes chromolly fj80 birfields that are way bigger than mini axle 30 splines. you already know how strong the mini axle longfields are, so imagine how hard you'd have to try to break these things. so now what, weak ring and pinions you say? how about a fabricated housing from diamond or ruffstuff specialties? stronger than stock, nicer looking, and the option of running a toyota 9.5" third member. all beef, all toyota, and much lighter than a dana 60. what about re-using some of my mini axle steering copmponents? yes you can. the arms have a 6" throw at the tie rod holes, and an 8" throw at the drag link holes. ackerman angle you say? each arm has 2 holes. the first hole is for the tie rod and it gives you the right amount of ackerman angle for the average wheel base. need more steering angle and full hydro with the common 8" ram? use the forward holes that have no ackerman angle for the furthest possible steering in comp based rigs. leaf sprung rigs vs. linked rigs, and uptravel. mount the tie rod and drag link on top of the arms for leaf springs, or mount them under the arms for linked suspension and maximum uptravel. for this reason alone, these will only be heim joint style arms for now until we get enough demand for fj80 TRE's. these have been tested on the best trails at the hammers numerous times, and flogged through the whoops harder than i've ever done before in any of my toyotas. i have checked my knuckle studs like i always do, but unlike before where i had to tighten them more than once per trip, these have never loosened. you can forget about the shims to set your trunion bearing pre-load too, because these have 3/4" set screws with jam nuts to make setting preload a snap without removing the arm several times. basic kit includes: left and right knuckles left and right arms sleeves to weld into arms by the consumer (for getting the tie rod height exactly where you want it) studs, nuts, set screws and jam nuts for knuckle to arm connection. other things you will need- 3/4" heims, tie rod and drag link tube, and grade 8 5/8" bolts for the heims. i highly reccomend ruffstuff specialties for heims and all other bracketry for your build. great products that last, great prices, and great customer service. for leaf springs i highly reccomend davez offroad for a super nice front hanger with 2" wider spacing. this keeps your u-bolts out of where your diff is, and gives you stability while maintaining good flex. shackles coming soon, but if you need to save money for now, do what i did and put both spacers on the inside rather than one on each side. davez offroad has awesome toyota parts at awesome prices, and he's a super good dude who will help you out. lastly you'll need to cut down your stock arms into lower trunion bearing caps. band saw, chop saw, grinder with flap disc, and whalla, you have some caps that saved you some money. if you want nicer caps with bling, stay tuned for the big trunion bearing kit that includes new lower caps and bigger pins for the arms. basic kit price: $850 plus shipping and sales tax for NM deliveries. patent pending. we are hellfire fabworks and we are here to stay. so stay tuned for more upgrades to this kit, as well as other products. we will only sell what we are willing to run. please call me with any questions or to place an order 619 395-0665 -billy INSTALL NOTE: BIRFIELDS WILL NOT FIT THROUGH THE KNUCKLE AND WILL NEED TO BE IN THE KNUCKLE BALL PRIOR TO KNUCKLE INSTALLATION, THIS IS KOWN AS THE CAMO METHOD WHICH I HAVE ALWAYS USED IN THE PAST.
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FJ80 HIGH STEER KITS /forum/axles-tires-wheels/997804-fj80-high-steer-way-you-need.html Authorized ruffstuff dealer- pm me for pirate discount and free shipping! pm me for affordable built toyota 3rd members or parts! ADS racing shocks- i can save you money on those too! |
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we can go that way
Join Date: Jan 2007
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holy long post batman.
btw, pics and website coming soon, but you have probably been following my thread in the toyota forum if you're reading this. ready to ship in less than 3 weeks. i have a waiting list for the first batch, but there's a chance that not all will place their orders soon enough to keep their spot. speak up and i will add you to the list to see if you can get a set before the next run, which will be about 3 months out.
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FJ80 HIGH STEER KITS http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=997804 Authorized ruffstuff dealer- pm me for pirate discount and free shipping! pm me for affordable built toyota 3rd members or parts! ADS racing shocks- i can save you money on those too! |
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I need 2 sets right now! Way to get it done Billy
I hope others see this as a big thing, this was way more work than it might seem...Finally a real High Steer for an FJ80 axle!
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we can go that way
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thanks tyler!
and thanks dan!
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FJ80 HIGH STEER KITS http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=997804 Authorized ruffstuff dealer- pm me for pirate discount and free shipping! pm me for affordable built toyota 3rd members or parts! ADS racing shocks- i can save you money on those too! |
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we can go that way
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still waiting for some quality pics, but here's a few in the mean time.
the arm in the first pic is rough cut, unfinished, and not as nice looking as the production arms of course. ![]() the 3rd pic is a display arm without the tie rod and drag link holes.
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FJ80 HIGH STEER KITS http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=997804 Authorized ruffstuff dealer- pm me for pirate discount and free shipping! pm me for affordable built toyota 3rd members or parts! ADS racing shocks- i can save you money on those too! |
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I sent my check via snail mail today.
X2 on what Dan said. Quote:
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Now thats the way an 80 should have come from the factory...!
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how did you manage to flop on the pinch? makes for a good advertisement though?
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we can go that way
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![]() ![]() it was humerous though because i've ran that trail so many times and consider it to be very easy, but it handed me my ass that day. i'd love to have another clean first gen again...
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FJ80 HIGH STEER KITS http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=997804 Authorized ruffstuff dealer- pm me for pirate discount and free shipping! pm me for affordable built toyota 3rd members or parts! ADS racing shocks- i can save you money on those too! |
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we can go that way
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btw, we have 10 extra sets up for grabs.
![]() paypal is sales@hellfirefabworks.com please add 3% for paypal fees since our profit margin is already too slim on these. if you want to save the 3%, feel free to send check or m.o. to hellfire fabworks 10305 ashwood st lakeside ca 92040 please email scott if you send payment so he can track it. scott is my business partner btw, and that's his 4runner posted above with the linked front. e-mail: macaulay.scott@gmail.com i will have limited internet access from this sunday til next friday so call me @ 619 395-0665 if you have questions that need answered right away, or e-mail scott if you're ready to place an order. thanks, -billy
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FJ80 HIGH STEER KITS http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=997804 Authorized ruffstuff dealer- pm me for pirate discount and free shipping! pm me for affordable built toyota 3rd members or parts! ADS racing shocks- i can save you money on those too! |
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![]() come on people you know you want these! I don't even own a yota and these things look bad ass compared to the stock ones
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look at that, any loyal toyota fans dream come true, awesome!!!!
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![]() Ummm isnt adding the 80 series axles supposed to make it more stable!!? lol just sayin' Heres the truck these need to go on billy, it make the axles look wider!! /forum/toyota-truck-4runner/999198-12-narrowed-1983-toyota-hilux-trail-truck-build-killer-b.html Im the guy in St.louis that you spoke with about buying up some of my 80 front axles (5) call me sometime if you still have my #. I am needing 2 sets of these arms, 1 for the narrowed 83 and for the UZed 4Runner Last edited by Killer B; 08-10-2011 at 01:37 AM. |
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we can go that way
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subscribed for a future upgrade for my pile...
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Not at all!!, I have got the mounts that will bolt the 1UZFE right into your 22r mounts and finding a UZ isnt hard at all and they are damn cheap now too. I will give you a call later this week and we can work something out. |
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there's a lot of aussies that i'd like to get these to, and hopefully it wont take too long to get these3 over there. i know this is a popular axle for you guys. ![]() thanks, -billy
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Hey Billy, give me a call so I can get you some funds for a couple of pair of these, my FJ45 is begging me for the big upgrade
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Badass Billy! Keep it going....
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![]() thanks tim! these are in stock!
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F'n NICE Billy
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