The Crook!

[Sentry7]

Most of you don't know me because i troll a lot and use pirate for the wealth of good info and education. and i like all the pretty pictures in the build threads. But since this is most suiting here, here is where i will put it. Mods let me know if i need to change the title to be more to the point or if this should go in the stolen vehicle sec. This actually has nothing to do with pbb, just a bad individual in the Jeep and 4x4 world.

I'm writing this to inform, not for sympathy or gain of any kind. as a few of you know i am Active Duty USAF, and used to be a very prominent and active member of Military Jeepers OKC Chapter.

As many of you may know i sold my tj in may of 2011 to I35 Sports and Imports. Since then this situation has become a living nightmare. The owner of I35, Mike Akbaran wrote me a business check for the amount owed and told me that if i hear nothing by the end of the weekend to cash the check. I did just that. I cashed the check and to my surprise it came back NSF a few days later. I immediately called Mike the owner and asked what had happened and he told me that he forgot to fund the check. being naive i believed him and played along for close to 3 months with much back and forth between the two of us. his excuses being he had a bad month or his bank won't fund him for anything. some of these being true but the shocker lies ahead. i began to pursue legal action in sept after being summoned by my bank for default. Default even though i have never missed a payment, have never been late on a payment, and never left any thought that i might default on this loan. so as of now i am facing a default judgement, and being out a jeep and close to 6500. yes, there are things to make this situation somewhat better. mike is going to more than likely skate free due to fact that if you tell someone to hold a check, you have no legal obligation to make that check right. the courts will literally not even hear your case. they will just call you a dumb ass.

After talking with the Moore police dept and Cleveland county district attorney this guy has a history of doing this. buying up vehicles and writing bad checks for them. writing bad checks in general is just his game. my attorney says that the outcome is bleak to say the least. he may skate out of this via bankruptcy, civil suit against him is almost off the table. i on the other hand am going to have a black eye on my credit for some time, and the bank could care either way of how this turns out on my end they just want their money and they want it now. From what i have heard from a few sources that Mike is going to be back in business on a co-op with a friend fronting the business of course. I'm posting this here and on many other boards to inform people of what this individuals actions have been and may become again in the future. He has continued to rip people off both buying and selling vehicles. If i can influence just one person to not buy from this individual i feel as if this was worth it. and next time you sell something being to an individual or a legitimate business like i did, cash is king.

For those of you wondering the jeep was a 1997 Jeep Wrangler Sahara, 97,000 Mi Approx when sold, Black, with spice interior, dana 44 rear axle, soft top, half doors w/ soft uppers and a broken zipper on the drivers side frt window, had faded and torn black and tan seat covers, had a 4'' pro-comp lift, 33x12.50/15 Pro Comp Extreme M/t's, 4.10 gears, had an oem front bumper that was cut to stuby length. and a various trail scratches and no mirrors when sold. sold by I35 Sports and Imports in Moore, OK if you have seen this jeep pm me or if you have my jeep pm me.

[058hamer]

Thanks for the heads up.

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-...1&pf=p&pdl=500

Good luck. Hope somebody eventually disappears this guy.

[Sentry7]

i'm trying to slam the hammer on this dude but legal loop holes are kicking my ass.

[billybob13]

it's a criminals world. they can do whatever they want, and no one can do shit about it. i see it all the time and nothing ever happens to these shit heads. it's about time for some change.

[95rokrunner]

Why cant you report it stolen?

If you never paid off the bank for the loan (I assume causing the credit issues) then doesnt the bank still have the tittle?

[Ho Shorts]

Originally Posted by 95rokrunner

why cant you report it stolen?

If you never paid off the bank for the loan (i assume causing the credit issues) then doesnt the bank still have the tittle?

this

[Sentry7]

oklahoma is what is known as a title holding state. which the person who has the loan or lein in fact has the title. so i have the title and is still in my name as of two weeks ago when i went to the ok tax commission at the capital and filed for vehicle history report. i'm working every avenue i have as to nailing this guy. but for those of you in oklahoma keep an eye out for this jeep.

[az-k5]

He didn't pay for it, he still has it. It should be reported stolen immediately. Report the loss to your insurance company with the police report and it WILL be found. Insurance companies play in a different league when it comes to these type of things. That is why you pay them each month.

[Ho Shorts]

You have the title, he has the vehicle and hasn't paid for it.

REPORT IT STOLEN

End of story, there shouldn't even be any discussion in the matter.

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

Friend test drives Jeep.

To your house.

[v6toy4x]

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

friend test drives jeep.

To your house.

this!!

[250f4life]

I'd never take a check for near that amount with out verifying funds period. Not trying to be a dick by no means. But YOU took "his word". I completely understand wanting to trust someone. I dont care if they roll up in the most expensive MB off the lot, I'm calling their bank.
Good luck and thanks for your service.

[ddestruel]

Originally Posted by Sentry7

oklahoma is what is known as a title holding state. which the person who has the loan or lein in fact has the title. so i have the title and is still in my name as of two weeks ago when i went to the ok tax commission at the capital and filed for vehicle history report. i'm working every avenue i have as to nailing this guy. but for those of you in oklahoma keep an eye out for this jeep.

WHOA......

YOU STILL HAVE TITLE.

HOLY CRAP Then REPORT IT STOLEN



You can produce the check as evidence of breech of contract. Declaring you had an oral contract for payment within a set time period, his non-payment due to lack of funds is a breech aka broken contract. Then tell them you have demanded your property back and he has refused to return it and he is now withholding your property from you. Possession is 9/10ths of the law and possession of the title means that's your jeep. make sure you continue to pay insurance and registration in the mean while and turn it in to the local Law enforcement as stolen ASAP like tonight.

Your statement to the officer is "I want to report my vehicle stolen, I had an agreement to sell the buyer has failed to perform any payment in the agreed upon time schedule and now is refusing to return my vehicle or make good on owed payment there fore i am being deprived of my property and want it delared stolen" " here is the last known address for the vehicle, here is the name of the theif"

At least that is what i did in montana with a jeep that a friend (or someone who i thought was a friend) did something similar, i agreed to payments for a balance of $2500 in the last month he took possession over a weekend while i was out of town and then failed to make good on the last $1000. I still had title and reported it to the sheriff soon as he wouldnt return my phone calls. I explained exactly as it happened a month later it was picked up on a TS. He stole $1000 from me as far as i and the DA were concerned. The jeep was returned to me and he ended up doing some time for possession of my stolen property and a few other stolen items and assualting an officer. Its a shame when the people you think you've known for 10 years drop off the deep end and decide to back stab you, once they do that all bets are off.


NAIL this guy's ass to the wall if you still have title do not relent on the the stolen property and vehicle charges or pursuit of them. the squeky wheel gets grease, if the DA trys to avoid filing charges write a compelling letter and if you can find any other victims get them involved

[Bandit 10-4]

First off, I am a licensed bonded TX auto dealer.

I am a little confused as to exactly what has happened here to you...

You are mistaken about Oklahoma being a title holding state. Texas is a title holding state where as the lien holder of vehicle holds the title until the lien is satisfied. In Oklahoma, not a title holding state, you are responsible for keeping the title... That being said, for the banks protection, there is a very important document that goes along with that Oklahoma vehicle title, a lien release... Without the TITLE and the LIEN RELEASE Big red could not have legally sold YOUR jeep... SO

If you took said 97 jeep tj to big red and dropped off and in return received check for said $6500 and no title was given to big red, check was no good so no sale, report YOUR JEEP STOLEN!!!

What did big red say? Where did they say 97 jeep tj is?

If you took said 97 jeep tj to big red and dropped off and in return received check for said $6500 and you DID give big red your title and you DID sign over to them... They STILL CAN'T SELL YOUR JEEP WITHOUT LIEN RELEASE!!!

.?????

MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION
Why did big red write YOU a check for what YOU owed on the said 97 jeep tj??? Makes no sense...

If you came to me with said 97 jeep tj and said "hey bud trying to sell my jeep, u interested? I owe my bank $6500 on it and I will sell it for that". I'd say "ok sounds fine, I will buy it for that". NO WAY would I write YOU a check for $6500 and just hope you are an honest guy and you go pay the jeep off and bring me a clear title AND LIEN RELEASE...

As far as your bank situation goes, if you didn't make payments on the unpaid loan while you were being led on by big red... It's not the banks fault...

I'm not trying to be an az, but the story doesn't ad up...

It still sounds like you got shafted by big red and obviously they wrote you a HOT CHECK!!!

THE WAY I READ YOUR POST IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ALSO FRAUDULENTLY SOLD A JEEP THAT WASN'T THEIRS!!!

So report your jeep STOLEN!!!

Also you should have had full coverage insurance on said tj since you had a lien on it... so REPORT IT TO YOUR INSURANCE NOW!!!

I hope you get some satisfaction out of this terrible situation and if I can help feel free to PM me I am less than 3hrs from big red and know some people that know some people...

Please feel in the blanks though so maybe someone can help you...

[cjcraig7]

It is not a stolen vehicle when you voluntarily drop off the keys and the vehicle. If the check was currently dated and it bounced you may have a criminal issue. The fact that the check was post dated makes it a civil issue.

Coppers aren't going to get involved in a cluster fug like this.

In California, if the dude had a dealers license - California DMV would be the agency to call.

Call the folks in your state that regulate dealer licenses.

[Sentry7]

yes to clear everything up. oklahoma is a non title holding state. meaning the title resides with me. he supposedly sold the vehicle the day after i "sold" it. now he won't give me the name or address of who he sold it to. the cops keep telling me its a civil matter. and the da keeps saying that they don't want to prosecute because its a gray area. i have tried to report it stolen. but it keeps coming back as the same area. da says that since it was a post dated check (which he wrote on a friday evening and told me if i don't hear from him by the end of the week end to cash it), it was my better digression as to question the legitimacy of the check. which a business who turns around 1.5 million in inventory annually could back a check for 6500 from a business account. i am perusing charges for theft by fraud, but yet again it rests with the da who i shy on pulling the trigger because according to them its a gray area. and insurance company won't do a thing unless its actually reported stolen. and every time i report it stolen it comes back as its a civil case matter not criminal.

edit: bandit, mike contacted me on a monday saying that he wanted to buy my jeep to add to his inventory because it was fairly cheap compared to the rest in the area. and it wasn't big red it was i35 sports and imports. no relation.

[the_white_shadow]

Paging Chris.

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

VIN + Carfax = Interesting information?

[Sentry7]

Originally Posted by the_white_shadow

Paging Chris.

huh?

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

VIN + Carfax = Interesting information?

not tracking?

[CJNTN]

If I35 sold it the day after he got it, how could the new owner title/register the jeep without the title for the Clerk's Office? I bet he still has it or chopped it. Maybe I'm missing something.

[Sentry7]

Originally Posted by CJNTN

If I35 sold it the day after he got it, how could the new owner title/register the jeep without the title for the Clerk's Office? I bet he still has it or chopped it. Maybe I'm missing something.

my guess is that the new owner has not titled it, unless he swaped vins. and i hope he didn't chop it.

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

VIN + Carfax = Interesting information?

As in, run your VIN through carfax and see who currently 'owns' it in the system.

[az-k5]

Originally Posted by cjcraig7

It is not a stolen vehicle when you voluntarily drop off the keys and the vehicle.

So you're saying if I borrow your trailer and never return it that would not be steeling?

If so can I borrow your trailer this weekend?

[red racer]

Six months or more............dark night....ball bat......lots of bruises,contusions,scrapes and teeth missing......need any more be said??