Dave Paglianite of Avoca PA

[Leafsprung]

Made a gentleman's agreement with someone who is apparently not a gentleman on the following:
/forum/vehicles-trailers-sale/423100-1965-land-rover-109-5-door.html

Part of the agreement was that he would return the seats and the bumper in exchange for a reduction in price on the car. (about 500-600 worth of stuff). He is not responding to repeated emails/calls to his cell. Home phone is unlisted. If you know where I can reach Dave Paglianite of the Avoca/Scranton PA area aka: bmgdave308@msn.com please drop me a PM or post it here.
-Thanks
-Ike

[ih4x4]

from www.zabbasearch.com

found this while searching for his email address http://www.1919a4.com/cgi-bin/ubbmis...erName=BMGDAVE

this could be him or his parents or ???
both these people have a avoca and scranton address

GERALD PAGLIANITE More Information
25 SAINT MARYS ST Recorded: 11/28/2003
AVOCA, PA 18641 (570) 457-0708

GERALD A PAGLIANITE More Information
901 WOODLAWN ST Recorded: Unknown
SCRANTON, PA 18509 (570) 346-1715
www.ZabaSearch.com/ZabaWeb

MARITA PAGLIANITE More Information
901 WOODLAWN ST Recorded: 07/11/2001
SCRANTON, PA 18509 (570) 346-1715

Originally Posted by Leafsprung

Made a gentleman's agreement with someone who is apparently not a gentleman on the following:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423100

Part of the agreement was that he would return the seats and the bumper in exchange for a reduction in price on the car. (about 500-600 worth of stuff). He is not responding to repeated emails/calls to his cell. Home phone is unlisted. If you know where I can reach Dave Paglianite of the Avoca/Scranton PA area aka: bmgdave308@msn.com please drop me a PM or post it here.
-Thanks
-Ike

[Leafsprung]

Still no dice. Ive called every Paglianite in Scranton with no luck. Anyone else have any suggestions? Apprieciate the help.
-Regards
-Ike

[ih4x4]

whats his user name on the board, did you contact a mod to see if they could get ahold of him,

Originally Posted by Leafsprung

Still no dice. Ive called every Paglianite in Scranton with no luck. Anyone else have any suggestions? Apprieciate the help.
-Regards
-Ike

[padesertboy]

damn, I wish I could help. I have buddy`s in
a large area of Pa...
lol

[rusty davis]

Originally Posted by ih4x4

whats his user name on the board, did you contact a mod to see if they could get ahold of him,

X2 Was this transaction made with a board member or not?

[Leafsprung]

I donno if hes a member or not. Posted it up here, he called an mentioned the ad. Trusted him to return the seats and bumper as per our agreement and havent heard from him. Cant find any concrete contact info for him either. Seems pretty shady. Hopefully someone can help me find him.
-Ike

[Leafsprung]

Still no luck reaching this guy. Anyone point me towards any resources that might be helpful?
-Thanks
-Ike

[mdill]

So why exactly did you ship the truck with stuff that was not part of the deal ?


Am I missing something ?

Mike D.

[Scraps]

That sucks man. Sorry.
Might want to post this on www.roversclub.org
They are somewhat local to your man and may have seen your old rig. They just had a big ralley over the weekend and maybe someone can help. Also LRM was there so keep an eye out in the mag.

[Leafsprung]

So why exactly did you ship the truck with stuff that was not part of the deal ?

I wasnt there when he picked it up (a friend handled that) Made the deal by phone. Certainly should not have taken him at his word, but hindsight is 20/20.

Thanks Scraps, I will post up over on ROVERS

[chuckmac]

I just got transferred to a store in Scranton. I will ask the locals that work for me if they know or have heard of this guy. Also, I will keep an eye out for the truck.

Hope this works out for you

[Leafsprung]

Very Much apprieciated. Its a hard rig to miss, hopefully he will turn up.
-Thanks
-Ike

[Leafsprung]

I got an address for this guy. Who can go leave a note on his door for me? Happy to compensate you for your time.

-Thanks
-Ike

[steved]

Mention this at ParagonAP.com, BMJA.org, and MarylandCreepers.com...they are all from "that" area. Someone should be able to help...

steved

[DTroy]

I found this:

David J Paglianite
102 Glendale
Avoca, PA 18641-9534
Phone: (570) 457-3629

Hopefully that's the guy and you can get this resolved. Keep us updated.

[norville]

Not to difficult to miss that rig in any color. I will also keep an eye out. I did'nt realize all the locals on this board.

bob

[DTroy]

Leafsprung,

The info I found checks out. I did some recon today. I took the address and found driving directions on Yahoo.
I found the guy's house. It's a yellow double. He and his mother live in the house. Apartment numbers 3 and 4.
I saw the Landrover parked behind the house. His mother was outside with the dog. I asked her if I could take some pics. She said that her son takes the truck to car shows. And that he drives a dark Dodge Dually.

The Moosic Police Department might have jurisdiction there. The non-emergency number is: 570-457-7269
It's not a big city so they will probably be much friendlier to you. It would be great if they stopped by and talked to this guy's mother. She would probably keep him in line.

The house is located on Springbrook Road (Rt.502)

The PA license plate on the vehicle reads: GHK-0773

[DTroy]

[Slapahoe]

Now thats some recon. Reminds me when that guy took pictures of Charlie Wenzels house at night and shit through his window.

[krb]

Originally Posted by Leafsprung

Made a gentleman's agreement with someone who is apparently not a gentleman on the following:
Part of the agreement was that he would return the seats and the bumper in exchange for a reduction in price on the car. (about 500-600 worth of stuff).
-Ike

Was this agreement made prior to the sale?If so why didnt you remove the items?If not I would have asked for full price then return the money to Dave when he shipped the parts back.
Doesnt make sense that he(Dave) would want to pay for shipping that stuff back,I dont think it would be cheap.
Why would someone want to buy a nice looking 4x4 like that and not want the seats or bumper?Why not just offer less money?Why would you want the seats and bumper back?I guess it was a way to con you.
P.S.I'm NOT trying to defend "Dave".
Good luck.

[Leafsprung]

WOW, THANKS TO DTROY!! Thats some serious help!! Ive been calling/emailing the guy weekly for going on a year now and I have had NO response whatsoever. Hell I called every Paglianite in the Scranton/Avoca Area.

KRB,
The whole story which, due to its complexity I had avoided typing out, is this:
I had moved west to Oregon and brought three of my rovers with me. This one, which I had decided to sell, was parked at my moms place in Indianapolis. Not wanting to transport it and then turn around and sell it, I listed it for sale and took phone calls and supplied pictures to interested parties, with the understanding the car was available for pickup in Indianapolis. Dave calls and is super interested, says hes ready to buy but his budget is 12K. I say, "fine, tell you what, I have another rover project that could use the seats (defender seats) and the bumper (a rare dealer option Mayflower Autmotive parts winch bumper) I will take 12K if you will send me back the seats and the bumper." He agreed. He said he would come pick it up in a weeks time. I called my mom (in her 60s) told her that Dave would be coming to pick up the rig in a week and I Fed Exed her the title and keys. She was nice enough to agree to meet him and take the payment and hand over the keys/title and she reminded him that he needed to send back the seats and bumper since she could not remove them there (and I would not expect her to). He explicitly agreed and told her it was no problem, he then loaded up the truck and I havent heard from him since. Had I been able to be there, I would have removed them before he took the car. I trusted him to follow through, and he has failed to do that, despite repeated calls and reminders, nor has he even once bothered to return my extremely numerous calls. Im even more irked by the fact he flat out lied to a little old lady who was nice enough to meet him with the keys and paperwork. Anyway, thats the long version. Im not pulling any punches, I just want whats mine.

Again, thanks for all the help DTroy, Ive been trying to reach this guy for a LONG time. Im NOT about to let it drop. Your help is VERY apprieciated and I would be more than happy to compensate you for your time/trouble. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

-Thanks
-Ike

[Leafsprung]

Ok,
Called and carefully explained he situation to the Moosic Police. They were less than helpful. They claimed that: that is not their jurisdiction, it was a matter for the civil magistrate (which they would not provide me with contact information), and without anything in writing I was screwed anyway. I called the Avoca Police and they wouldnt answer their phones.

I called the number that Dtroy listed and got no answer or voice mail. I called the cell number I have for him and left a message (as I have every week). Im addressing another (the 5th) letter to that address as we speak.

-Ike

[DTroy]

Leafsprung, I'm glad I could help in some way. As far as compensation goes, I say pay it forward.

Some numbers I found: Avoca Borough Mayor 570-457-4947
Avoca Police Non-Emergency 570-457-4011

They phone listing shows that the Mayor and his secretary have the same phone line, so she'll probably answer. She can tell you what Magistrate they fall under (I think Avoca is too small to have their own).

And as far as having it in writing goes, I think a verbal complaint is sufficient enough to file a complaint with the Magistrate. The Magistrate's office will tell you exactly what's up.

Hopefully legal action will work for you.

[Leafsprung]

Id love to find out where he works. I'm sure a couple calls to his boss would not go unnoticed. Another Pirate member has been leaving notes on this guys truck (Many thanks) Hopefully he will decide that its not worth being harassed for the rest of his life Thanks again to everyone. Let me know if any compensation is in order for your assistance.
-Regards
-Ike