Ebay-PNW Customs - Bender plans ripoff - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

imprtfightr · 01-29-2007, 02:51 PM

Just to let everyone know. I know a lot of you on here have been buying the Ebay plans, to build tubing benders. Well this guy lists his "plans" for $20. When you recieve the download, you get

(cliffnoted)
Buy harbour freight $50 bender
Fill tube with sand
Bend
Empty out sand
Be careful

This guy owns a website www.pnwcustoms.com and his info
Mike
E-Mail: Mike@PNWCustoms.com
or
PNWCustoms@hotmail.com
Phone: 503-342-9966

Im not just trying to bash someone. This guy is scamming people. I dont want anyone else to lose $20. He hasn't responded to my email about a refund but I did recieve the crappy file in 5 minutes.

geberhard · 01-29-2007, 04:34 PM

How did you pay teh guy, paypal?

fabcam · 01-29-2007, 06:55 PM

Hey, I am going to warn my customers about this clown. Thanks for the tip.

.

1969 CJ-5 · 01-30-2007, 12:22 AM

That guy is a DOUCHE! Sorry you got scammed.

WLD_OTZ · 01-30-2007, 07:50 AM

Freiking Classic! Reminds me of the story about my Grandmother when she purchased a device "Guaranteed to Kill BedBugs". She received two 2x4's 6" long. And instructions of course.

Fawking scammers!!

John

fabcam · 01-30-2007, 11:00 AM

I PM'd this guy on Ebay. I said something like:
"Are these plans something mechanical or is it the age old B.S. like how to pack sand into the pipe?"

I got a reply:
"Its an great idea that I came up with on how to pack sand into the pipe. Looks as if I am not the only one to come up with this.
Thanks,
Mike"

I think this guy just didn't realize that his idea is pretty much common knowledge.

.

fabcam · 01-30-2007, 11:24 AM

The seller pulled the auction. I really think he didn't realize this was common knowledge.

edit...update

Well I sent this response back to him:
Thanks for the followup. Unfortunately this is common knowledge in fabrication circles. Just do a google search!!!

And now I received this response back:
I see, you are right. I have offered a refund to anyone who has bought one. I thought I had a new idea one day sitting in the shop messing with a harbor freight bender. Guess I should have done some research before I posted it.
Thanks,
Mike

imprtfightr · 01-31-2007, 12:40 PM

I used paypal. He did end up giving me a refund. I think he knew all along what he was doing, it was just his excuse. Im fairly new into tube bending and even I knew this for years.

rickibrat2 · 02-07-2007, 06:43 AM

gradge door sprils well greassed work a lot better then sand

needmorepower · 02-07-2007, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickibrat2

gradge door sprils well greassed work a lot better then sand

Dude!! You need to put that thing away and type with both hands......

WTF is a gradge door spril?

WLD_OTZ · 02-07-2007, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickibrat2 View Post
gradge door sprils well greassed work a lot better then sand
Dude!! You need to put that thing away and type with both hands......

What really sucks is that I could read exactly what he meant right away! Must be the goggles...

MC · 02-07-2007, 09:11 AM

Omg Sand!!!

:d

Keith · 02-07-2007, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by needmorepower

Dude!! You need to put that thing away and type with both hands......

WTF is a gradge door spril?

I think he means a garage door spring.

cj8scrambld · 02-09-2007, 01:32 PM

Filling tube with sand is a technique...not "plans to build a bender". He knew what he was doing.

65Chevy4x4 · 02-20-2007, 08:57 PM

I personally like the solar powered cloth drier.

Then you get a 25ft long piece of string and a turnbuckle.

01-29-2007, 02:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
imprtfightr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 62011 Posts: 6	Ebay-PNW Customs - Bender plans ripoff Just to let everyone know. I know a lot of you on here have been buying the Ebay plans, to build tubing benders. Well this guy lists his "plans" for $20. When you recieve the download, you get (cliffnoted) Buy harbour freight $50 bender Fill tube with sand Bend Empty out sand Be careful This guy owns a website www.pnwcustoms.com and his info Mike E-Mail: Mike@PNWCustoms.com or PNWCustoms@hotmail.com Phone: 503-342-9966 Im not just trying to bash someone. This guy is scamming people. I dont want anyone else to lose $20. He hasn't responded to my email about a refund but I did recieve the crappy file in 5 minutes.

01-29-2007, 04:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
geberhard Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5861 Location: California Posts: 8,491	How did you pay teh guy, paypal? __________________ Help us cure kids cancer! Shave for the cause :) Tips on how to build your Jeep bigger! New build, daily driver TJ on 44" rubbers Project hot 40 year old

01-29-2007, 06:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
fabcam Rock God Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19763 Location: MN Posts: 1,546	Hey, I am going to warn my customers about this clown. Thanks for the tip. . __________________ The site for the fabricator: www.offroadfabnet.com Bend-Tech PRO is now available!!! Design full tube chassis in less than a couple of hours with the PRO We are the developers of the Bend-Tech products. 651-257-8715 for sales and support www.bend-tech.com 10,000+ now using Bend-Tech

01-30-2007, 11:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
fabcam Rock God Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19763 Location: MN Posts: 1,546	I PM'd this guy on Ebay. I said something like: "Are these plans something mechanical or is it the age old B.S. like how to pack sand into the pipe?" I got a reply: "Its an great idea that I came up with on how to pack sand into the pipe. Looks as if I am not the only one to come up with this. Thanks, Mike" I think this guy just didn't realize that his idea is pretty much common knowledge. . __________________ The site for the fabricator: www.offroadfabnet.com Bend-Tech PRO is now available!!! Design full tube chassis in less than a couple of hours with the PRO We are the developers of the Bend-Tech products. 651-257-8715 for sales and support www.bend-tech.com 10,000+ now using Bend-Tech

01-30-2007, 11:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
fabcam Rock God Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19763 Location: MN Posts: 1,546	The seller pulled the auction. I really think he didn't realize this was common knowledge. edit...update Well I sent this response back to him: Thanks for the followup. Unfortunately this is common knowledge in fabrication circles. Just do a google search!!! And now I received this response back: I see, you are right. I have offered a refund to anyone who has bought one. I thought I had a new idea one day sitting in the shop messing with a harbor freight bender. Guess I should have done some research before I posted it. Thanks, Mike __________________ The site for the fabricator: www.offroadfabnet.com Bend-Tech PRO is now available!!! Design full tube chassis in less than a couple of hours with the PRO We are the developers of the Bend-Tech products. 651-257-8715 for sales and support www.bend-tech.com 10,000+ now using Bend-Tech

01-30-2007, 12:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
1969 CJ-5 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81461 Location: Whiteman AFB (currently in Southwest Asia) Posts: 11	That guy is a DOUCHE! Sorry you got scammed.

01-30-2007, 07:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
WLD_OTZ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41424 Location: high dessert Posts: 379	Freiking Classic! Reminds me of the story about my Grandmother when she purchased a device "Guaranteed to Kill BedBugs". She received two 2x4's 6" long. And instructions of course. Fawking scammers!! John

01-31-2007, 12:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
imprtfightr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 62011 Posts: 6	I used paypal. He did end up giving me a refund. I think he knew all along what he was doing, it was just his excuse. Im fairly new into tube bending and even I knew this for years.

02-07-2007, 06:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
rickibrat2 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20571 Location: dallas oregon Posts: 155	gradge door sprils well greassed work a lot better then sand

02-07-2007, 09:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
MC Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21997 Location: Insane CNC machine mfg Posts: 5,271	Omg Sand!!! :d __________________ Industrial Quality CNC machines at a Hobby Price! USA Quality is job #1 We build CNC plasma tables, click me .................................................. ......... American Motors Engine HERE!! 1-651-257-7917

02-09-2007, 01:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
cj8scrambld Rock God Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 343 Location: Conway, MA US Posts: 1,947	Filling tube with sand is a technique...not "plans to build a bender". He knew what he was doing.

02-20-2007, 08:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
65Chevy4x4 Rock God Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37016 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 2,135	I personally like the solar powered cloth drier. Then you get a 25ft long piece of string and a turnbuckle.

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