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86Yota4.70 · 04-25-2007, 08:35 PM

To start off... about a month ago I bought an 89 xtra cab to swap the drivetrain into my buggy... so after swapping the drivetrain i posted the rest up for sale /forum/misc-stuff-sale/565673-1989-toyota-4x4-part-out-whole.html
Tyler AKA Broke_okie_Ty called me on the phone interested of buying the truck.... After talking with him on the phone i found out he had some parts that i needed.... Said he had what he "thought" was a w56 with a top shift t case....

He went to pull a few days later and saw that it was a forward shift t case but i said whatever and told him I would trade him the truck for 300$, tranny and tcase, did not want the title, and i keeping the ifs steering box on the truck.... He said sure he even had a ifs box that he would bring up and give to me so i could leave the one on the truck.... Told him to come up whenever he got a chance...

Ended up coming up to vacaville from Fresno on the 14 of april.... when he got to the house said he accidently left the ifs steering box at home BUT said he would ship it to me... Also said this in front of 5 of my friends.... got the truck all loaded up and went to pay me.... Started counting the money and handed me 400$... I said whoa we agreed on 300$ and that is to much so here and GAVE HIM BACK THE 100$

and told him to just ship me the box and it will be fine... we unloaded the tranny and t case and i noticed it was a g52 NOT a w56 and asked him about it... he said thats what he thought a w56 was because ALL g52's are top shift Tcase... Chad Romine aka Fenderbmxer86 the tranny guru corrected him and said it was a g52.... didn't really care because i was plannin on selling the tranny anyways so i said whatever... gave him directions back home and he was on his way....

He called me a few days later and said he needed the title.... i said ok and told him to pm me his address.... He did so a few days later and i told him as soon as i got the steering box i would send him the title.... Didn't hear back so i called him 3 times last week and sent him 2 pm's... got a pm back that said as stated....

86Yota4.70 · 04-25-2007, 08:36 PM

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hey Taylor, i'm haveing a problem with this arrangement. i gave you $300 cash and a transmission for the truck, correct. that tranny and TC was worth $200. $300 + tranny = $500. i thought the deal was i was going to give you $400 and a gear box for the truck, then we were going to swap trannies straight across. i came home with just a truck. why am i giving you another $100 in gearbox parts plus the money to ship it, for a truck with no motor or anything. that dosent add up to me. as far as i'm concerned we are square, i just wanted the title because it would make things a little easier. you can call me if you want but thats where i stand on the subject.
thanks Ty

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Originally Posted by 86Yota4.70
haven't heard from you in a few days and saw that you have been on.... please let me know what is goin on.... thanks

Taylor

86Yota4.70 · 04-25-2007, 08:37 PM

Called him about 3 hours ago and the argument ended with him straight up telling me he IS NOT going to send me the box or any money.... What should i do??

johnny_boy02 · 04-25-2007, 09:03 PM

Report the truck you sold him stolen..........

86Yota4.70 · 04-25-2007, 09:15 PM

The worst thing is I have his name address and phone number so i don't see how he thought this one would work out....

redranger4.0 · 04-26-2007, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny_boy02

Report the truck you sold him stolen..........

x2

TatonkaII · 04-26-2007, 09:51 AM

Id report it stolen too. what an ass

SeaBass44 · 04-26-2007, 01:17 PM

stop trusting people

you did this to yourself

I would have either pulled the box off, or told him to leave empty handed, or took the $100 extra for the box.

don't let people get over on you, he did and many will if you let them.

no it's not ok or right for him to do this,

post up in chit chat for revenge, about only thing that might help, 1 zillon calls to his house might make up for your loss

86Yota4.70 · 04-26-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaBass44

stop trusting people

you did this to yourself

I would have either pulled the box off, or told him to leave empty handed, or took the $100 extra for the box.

don't let people get over on you, he did and many will if you let them.

no it's not ok or right for him to do this,

post up in chit chat for revenge, about only thing that might help, 1 zillon calls to his house might make up for your loss

Thanks.... Yeah i guess i'm to trust worthy with people that i meet and ACT the same way.... And to top it off i had to remove his name from the bad seller/buyers list for some reason...

SpraynPray · 04-26-2007, 06:05 PM

You do have some recourse, but with all things involving the government it will take time and it won't be easy. You can file the "proper" forms for small claims court. Luckily enough you are both in CA, so this website should help with all the forms and questions:

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/forms.cgi

But then you have to prove the case, so keep all his emails as proof he went back on a verbal agreement. At least he will have to drive the 160 some odd miles to appear in court.

86Yota4.70 · 04-26-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpraynPray

You do have some recourse, but with all things involving the government it will take time and it won't be easy. You can file the "proper" forms for small claims court. Luckily enough you are both in CA, so this website should help with all the forms and questions:

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/forms.cgi

But then you have to prove the case, so keep all his emails as proof he went back on a verbal agreement. At least he will have to drive the 160 some odd miles to appear in court.

yeah it would be pretty stupid for him to even make the trip....

86Yota4.70 · 05-01-2007, 08:15 PM

sent out the paper work for small claims... just got to have it delivered!

86Yota4.70 · 05-03-2007, 04:01 PM

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fine, give him my number, but its hard to take someone to court, when you don't have the plates or title to match my vins'

this is what i got from him yesterday.... this guy just seams to get worse and worse...

cgriffin_5139 · 05-03-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 86Yota4.70

sent out the paper work for small claims... just got to have it delivered!

I'l do it i live in fresno.

86Yota4.70 · 05-03-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cgriffin_5139

I'l do it i live in fresno.

well if my friend doesn't do it this weekend when he is down there i'll let you know... thanks

cgriffin_5139 · 05-04-2007, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Yota4.70

well if my friend doesn't do it this weekend when he is down there i'll let you know... thanks

No problem let me know. Oh and it doesnt hurt that Iam 6'4" and 350lbs and will squish his head like a grape!

odin544 · 05-04-2007, 11:20 PM

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Yesterday, 09:22 PM
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fine, give him my number, but its hard to take someone to court, when you don't have the plates or title to match my vins'

this is what i got from him yesterday.... this guy just seams to get worse and worse...

so he has switched vins on the vehichle? weird, isnt that another crime?

86Yota4.70 · 05-05-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by odin544

so he has switched vins on the vehichle? weird, isnt that another crime?

good point...

86Yota4.70 · 05-05-2007, 10:02 AM

If i report it stolen should i call Vacaville PD or Madera PD??

cgriffin_5139 · 05-05-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 86Yota4.70

If i report it stolen should i call Vacaville PD or Madera PD??

Clovis Pd is your best bet what is his address?

86Yota4.70 · 05-05-2007, 02:13 PM

1988 ashcroft
clovis, ca 93611

odin544 · 05-05-2007, 03:35 PM

a while ago my buddy sold a jeep xj to someone on payments. the guy quit paying so i grabbed my truck and flatbed trailer and we drove by the guys house. jeep was sitting there so we stopped down the street and called the police and told them we were repoing it since he stopped paying. they showed up and we loaded the jeep. nothing the buyer could do. we left with the jeep. funny thing is my buddy resold it to someone else on payments. same thing happened again. but if hes anywhere near you and its in haul-able condition. just go get that shit back. but call the police and let them know. that way you aren't trespassing and don't get arrested for what looks like you stealing something. give them a heads up and usually they are ok with that and will even come out to make sure there are no issues.

cgriffin_5139 · 05-05-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 86Yota4.70

1988 ashcroft
clovis, ca 93611

Thats like a half a mile from my jobsite I'll go buy there monday! After i get back from vegas.

86Yota4.70 · 05-05-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cgriffin_5139

Thats like a half a mile from my jobsite I'll go buy there monday! After i get back from vegas.

Just tell him your there to pick up the steering box for taylor... In your meanest voice

.... His name is tyler

cgriffin_5139 · 05-05-2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86Yota4.70

Just tell him your there to pick up the steering box for taylor... In your meanest voice

.... His name is tyler

yeah will do and he was on today, Last Activity: Today 03:14 PM

04-25-2007, 08:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	Bad Buyer!! Broke_okie_Ty PLEASE READ!! To start off... about a month ago I bought an 89 xtra cab to swap the drivetrain into my buggy... so after swapping the drivetrain i posted the rest up for sale /forum/misc-stuff-sale/565673-1989-toyota-4x4-part-out-whole.html Tyler AKA Broke_okie_Ty called me on the phone interested of buying the truck.... After talking with him on the phone i found out he had some parts that i needed.... Said he had what he "thought" was a w56 with a top shift t case.... He went to pull a few days later and saw that it was a forward shift t case but i said whatever and told him I would trade him the truck for 300$, tranny and tcase, did not want the title, and i keeping the ifs steering box on the truck.... He said sure he even had a ifs box that he would bring up and give to me so i could leave the one on the truck.... Told him to come up whenever he got a chance... Ended up coming up to vacaville from Fresno on the 14 of april.... when he got to the house said he accidently left the ifs steering box at home BUT said he would ship it to me... Also said this in front of 5 of my friends.... got the truck all loaded up and went to pay me.... Started counting the money and handed me 400$... I said whoa we agreed on 300$ and that is to much so here and GAVE HIM BACK THE 100$ and told him to just ship me the box and it will be fine... we unloaded the tranny and t case and i noticed it was a g52 NOT a w56 and asked him about it... he said thats what he thought a w56 was because ALL g52's are top shift Tcase... Chad Romine aka Fenderbmxer86 the tranny guru corrected him and said it was a g52.... didn't really care because i was plannin on selling the tranny anyways so i said whatever... gave him directions back home and he was on his way.... He called me a few days later and said he needed the title.... i said ok and told him to pm me his address.... He did so a few days later and i told him as soon as i got the steering box i would send him the title.... Didn't hear back so i called him 3 times last week and sent him 2 pm's... got a pm back that said as stated.... __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

04-25-2007, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	Broke_Okie_Ty Registered User Member Number: 86728 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Clovis, CA Posts: 33 Re: adress -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hey Taylor, i'm haveing a problem with this arrangement. i gave you $300 cash and a transmission for the truck, correct. that tranny and TC was worth $200. $300 + tranny = $500. i thought the deal was i was going to give you $400 and a gear box for the truck, then we were going to swap trannies straight across. i came home with just a truck. why am i giving you another $100 in gearbox parts plus the money to ship it, for a truck with no motor or anything. that dosent add up to me. as far as i'm concerned we are square, i just wanted the title because it would make things a little easier. you can call me if you want but thats where i stand on the subject. thanks Ty Quote: Originally Posted by 86Yota4.70 haven't heard from you in a few days and saw that you have been on.... please let me know what is goin on.... thanks Taylor __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

04-25-2007, 08:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	Called him about 3 hours ago and the argument ended with him straight up telling me he IS NOT going to send me the box or any money.... What should i do?? __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

04-25-2007, 09:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
johnny_boy02 Rock God Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25603 Location: Yuba City, CA Posts: 1,814	Report the truck you sold him stolen.......... __________________ I wont cast the first stone or leave the first mark but I will leave a lasting impression

04-25-2007, 09:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	The worst thing is I have his name address and phone number so i don't see how he thought this one would work out.... __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

04-26-2007, 09:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
TatonkaII Rock God Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12454 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,753	Id report it stolen too. what an ass __________________ 85 3.4 V6, 38s, Longs, 4.7 Marlins, 5" AP springs.. almost done..www.chucktownlowdown.com

04-26-2007, 01:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
SeaBass44 www.12voltguy.com Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 40 Location: 80 miles n-sac in Oroville, CA Posts: 30,709	stop trusting people you did this to yourself I would have either pulled the box off, or told him to leave empty handed, or took the $100 extra for the box. don't let people get over on you, he did and many will if you let them. no it's not ok or right for him to do this, post up in chit chat for revenge, about only thing that might help, 1 zillon calls to his house might make up for your loss __________________ 12voltguy info@12voltguy.com--davezoffroadperformance.com # 530.532.4529 TTC 2010 1989 BRONCO -Awesome web development for your business. www.mudnworks.com mud@mudnworks.com Pat's W I D E TOYOTA Front Axle --07 KTM 450XC----with "stuff"

04-26-2007, 06:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
SpraynPray Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 79291 Location: Long Beach CA Posts: 9	You do have some recourse, but with all things involving the government it will take time and it won't be easy. You can file the "proper" forms for small claims court. Luckily enough you are both in CA, so this website should help with all the forms and questions: http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/forms.cgi But then you have to prove the case, so keep all his emails as proof he went back on a verbal agreement. At least he will have to drive the 160 some odd miles to appear in court.

05-01-2007, 08:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	sent out the paper work for small claims... just got to have it delivered! __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

05-03-2007, 04:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	Private Message: Re: adress Yesterday, 09:22 PM Broke_Okie_Ty Registered User Member Number: 86728 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Clovis, CA Posts: 33 Re: adress -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- fine, give him my number, but its hard to take someone to court, when you don't have the plates or title to match my vins' this is what i got from him yesterday.... this guy just seams to get worse and worse... __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

05-05-2007, 10:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	If i report it stolen should i call Vacaville PD or Madera PD?? __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

05-05-2007, 02:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
86Yota4.70 Linkoligist... Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44474 Location: Vacaville/Winters Posts: 1,824	1988 ashcroft clovis, ca 93611 __________________ Hey the 90's called, they want their aluminum links back! Support 81 Worldwide HereticFab.com.. Your source for everything to do with link suspension! -4130 Heat Treated Links/Control Arms -Heims, jam nut's, and spacer's -Brackets from numerous vendors in one place www.Mixchallenge.info

05-05-2007, 03:35 PM	#22 (permalink)
odin544 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29622 Location: Kennewick, Washington Posts: 1,763	a while ago my buddy sold a jeep xj to someone on payments. the guy quit paying so i grabbed my truck and flatbed trailer and we drove by the guys house. jeep was sitting there so we stopped down the street and called the police and told them we were repoing it since he stopped paying. they showed up and we loaded the jeep. nothing the buyer could do. we left with the jeep. funny thing is my buddy resold it to someone else on payments. same thing happened again. but if hes anywhere near you and its in haul-able condition. just go get that shit back. but call the police and let them know. that way you aren't trespassing and don't get arrested for what looks like you stealing something. give them a heads up and usually they are ok with that and will even come out to make sure there are no issues. Last edited by odin544; 05-05-2007 at 03:36 PM.

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