MissipBoy = BAD BUYER - SELLERS BEWARE

[RocKrawler]

Missipboy (Parker Graves) tried sending a fake cashiers check to buy my wifes FJ62 Landcruiser listed in the for sale section here and on IH8MUD, when questioned he said to send it back and he would wire the money. When I returned it (giving him the benefit of the doubt) he said he couldnt do the deal. To me this confirms he was trying to pull a scam and never had the money to begin with. He also said he wanted to pick up the vehicle in Memphis TN because he lived just 30min NORTH of there, but when you check the map, MS is SOUTH. This has fraud written all over it. Be careful when dealing with this guy.

[odin544]

so why didnt you call the cops when you recieved a fake cashiers check? What "benefit of the doubt" is there to give?

[RocKrawler]

BofA said it wasnt 100% sure it was fake, but wouldnt cash it and wanted to put an indefinite hold on it because they were confident it would come back. When I called him he swore it was legit and said he would just wire the funds when the check was returned to him. Being a fellow cruiser guy I didnt want to create problems if BofA was wrong, so I agreed to return it. When it arrived to him he immediately cancelled the deal and refused to follow through on the wire transfer even though I already had the transport reserved for him & had to call in favors to get it done half price. I'm just trying to warn anyone who may have future dealings with this guy - its up to whoever is dealing with him to take the advice or not. Believe me, I had a check in my hand and want to sell this vehicle, I had no reason to return it & lose the sale to just mess with him on the boards.

[bigreen]

Thats serious stuff....not typical PBB bullshit sales...you need to contact authorities on something like this.

[bgaidan]

Or you could have called the issuing bank to find out if it was real. BoA should have done this for you.

[RocKrawler]

No contact info on the check & that was one of the flags to B of A - no address, phone number, nothing but the bank name on the check. Then they stamped the numerical amount OVER the printed written amount, which is something no real bank is supposed to do

[Lord Orange]

Originally Posted by RocKrawler

No contact info on the check & that was one of the flags to B of A - no address, phone number, nothing but the bank name on the check. Then they stamped the numerical amount OVER the printed written amount, which is something no real bank is supposed to do

That is a phonie...good for you, you caught it.

Originally Posted by bgaidan

Or you could have called the issuing bank to find out if it was real. BoA should have done this for you.

Calling the bank won't do anything. All they will say is a cashiers check is verified because it is "certified".

[the_experience3006]

Originally Posted by Lord Orange

Calling the bank won't do anything. All they will say is a cashiers check is verified because it is "certified".

Not necessarily true...I worked at a bank as a teller in high school and we recorded every cashier's check and money order with the date, amount, whom it was issued to, and in the case of cashier's checks, what loan it was the proceeds from if that were the case. It was all done on a spreadsheet accessible online from any branch. We were a small bank, but there is no reason why the issuing bank couldn't have such measures in place as well.

[fvisions]

What did you do? Spread the work to everyone - if you get one of those checks call your local Police Department. They are all looking for these thieves that are pedaling these things! Better yet you should at least consider calling your local PD right now and telling them what happen. You have this guys name, maybe address, and phone number right? Any good cop is going to forward the information to the Police Dept. where this guy is and someone should follow-up on him. You caught it - you know he will do it again, maybe to someone’s mother or grand mother, think about it - do something - anything - but pass the information on to a PD so maybe they will try to catch this bonehead!

[Myanarchy]

whats his address? Easy to ride by

[Lord Orange]

Originally Posted by the_experience3006

Not necessarily true...I worked at a bank as a teller in high school and we recorded every cashier's check and money order with the date, amount, whom it was issued to, and in the case of cashier's checks, what loan it was the proceeds from if that were the case. It was all done on a spreadsheet accessible online from any branch. We were a small bank, but there is no reason why the issuing bank couldn't have such measures in place as well.

Let's get back to this decade. I worked at BofA(six years) and I was a customer service manager. I would of taken the time to tell that guy it was a phonie. But now that I no longer work for the bank, I see that most bank employees won't take the time to help out the customers.

[thefreqofnature]

Originally Posted by fvisions

What did you do? Spread the work to everyone - if you get one of those checks call your local Police Department. They are all looking for these thieves that are pedaling these things! Better yet you should at least consider calling your local PD right now and telling them what happen. You have this guys name, maybe address, and phone number right? Any good cop is going to forward the information to the Police Dept. where this guy is and someone should follow-up on him. You caught it - you know he will do it again, maybe to someone’s mother or grand mother, think about it - do something - anything - but pass the information on to a PD so maybe they will try to catch this bonehead!

X2! BUST the bad guys

[the_experience3006]

Originally Posted by Lord Orange

Let's get back to this decade. I worked at BofA(six years) and I was a customer service manager. I would of taken the time to tell that guy it was a phonie. But now that I no longer work for the bank, I see that most bank employees won't take the time to help out the customers.

That was this decade. I'm only 22. Like I said...it was a small town bank. And you're right...it's going to depend A LOT on the particular teller that waits on you.

Any updates?

[atblis]

I got a cashiers check for a pistol I sold that was totally ghetto. It had basically no info on it. What you describe basically sounds like what I received. Anyways, bank didn't like it, thought it was bogus. Put the maximum hold on it (15 business days). It came back as legit.
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[bjack]

Wow. That dude just sent me a pm on Mud wanting to buy a steering box. Glad I saw this.

[Kyle_T]

Originally Posted by bjack

Wow. That dude just sent me a pm on Mud wanting to buy a steering box. Glad I saw this.

get him to send you a check and see what happens, might be 2 counts of fraud documented Post Office and FBI don't like fraud.

[atblis]

If anybody is unclear about what I meant.

Basically, I received a Cashiers check that just by looking at it I would have thought it was bogus. IIRC it didn't have a date on it, no holograms, thermal ink, nothing, from a bank I'd never heard of, in a place I'd never heard of. My bank did not like it either. They put the maximum hold on it, but it did in fact come back as good.

I wouldn't rely on the Feds. They aren't always enthusiastic about enforcement.

Basically, unless you ran the check and it came back as bad, I would not assume it was bogus.
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[dahoyle]

Originally Posted by atblis

If anybody is unclear about what I meant.

Basically, I received a Cashiers check that just by looking at it I would have thought it was bogus. IIRC it didn't have a date on it, no holograms, thermal ink, nothing, from a bank I'd never heard of, in a place I'd never heard of. My bank did not like it either. They put the maximum hold on it, but it did in fact come back as good.

I wouldn't rely on the Feds. They aren't always enthusiastic about enforcement.

Basically, unless you ran the check and it came back as bad, I would not assume it was bogus.

Good for you, you took a chance and came out on the good end of things. On the other hand, you are advising people to go ahead and take the chance when in doubt, and the Bank also has their doubts. Hope you continue your good luck, but under the circumstances, I would absolutely assume it was bogus. If there is any doubt at all, I would err on the side of caution, and not hand over the item until the check cleared. It might be a bit of an inconvenience for the buyer, but it's how I would handle it. The whole point of a Cashiers check is to have some claim to it's legitimacy, and if that isn't reasonably certain, in this day of digital printers and so on, then it is no better than a personal check. Would you take a personal check for a vehicle purchase, from a perfect stranger?

Doug

[atblis]

There was no risk to me. The pistol did not ship till the check cleared. That was understood before the deal took place. If somebody wants to pay for a vehicle with a cashiers check, they go to the bank with me to clear it.
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