Bad Seller 4Linked

[87GMCsierra]

I bought a Motor Off Pirate here.

Here is the link to the thread Where it is stated It is a 350.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...651&highlight=

I picked the motor up Around October 25th. And The first of March began to put it in the truck. Came to find out it is a 305 Not a 350. I sent him a PM 3 weeks ago and have received no response. I hate to post here just want my money back. Hope we can work something out here.

[Big91RustyBucket]

I was over today , and also noticed the issues. Hope to see this taken care of.

[Big91RustyBucket]

Bump for the day crew

[trkklr77]

did you check for yourself that it was a 350 before you bought it?

[Todd W]

Originally Posted by trkklr77

did you check for yourself that it was a 350 before you bought it?

Ditto that. You picked it up in person and didn't look to make sure you were paying for what you thought it was?

I've sold some shit before and say it's "this" because to the best of my knowledge it is... buyer says it's not I don't sell to him... but if the buyer checked it over, took it home, and then 3 months or so later realized it wasn't... really is that my fault?

If he shipped that's a whole other story in itself, and how the ad was listed.

[Big91RustyBucket]

Thing is The motor was supposedly Rebuilt. So If he Rebuilt it right before the sale He would of know it wasn't a 350. I agree I asked him if he looked at it but he didn't figure to see if it was a 5.0 vs 5.7 since it had just been rebuilt.

[ChiScouter]

Originally Posted by Big91RustyBucket

Thing is The motor was supposedly Rebuilt. So If he Rebuilt it right before the sale He would of know it wasn't a 350. I agree I asked him if he looked at it but he didn't figure to see if it was a 5.0 vs 5.7 since it had just been rebuilt.

The OP posted once, and you have now posted 3 times in this thread. Do you have some sort of a hard on for 4 linked, the OP, or are you just some sort of a drama queen looking to stir up shit

[onetontoy]

Ok, no offense but chevys have casting numbers on the back of the block. You can take that number and google it and it should tell you what it is. My opinion is both parties are a lil at fault here. Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on...

[trkklr77]

Originally Posted by Big91RustyBucket

Thing is The motor was supposedly Rebuilt. So If he Rebuilt it right before the sale He would of know it wasn't a 350. I agree I asked him if he looked at it but he didn't figure to see if it was a 5.0 vs 5.7 since it had just been rebuilt.

350 TPI w/ K Case 700R4 and Atlas Adapters

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Rebuilt Chevy 350 tpi I believe this is the older version with the map sensor. it was rebuilt by a friend of mine that is an ase certified mechanic. Comes with wiring harness from the camaro it came out of a new computer. the only thing I don't have is the accesory drive brackets. The transmission is a K Case 700r4 that has been fully rebuilt with a shift kits and stall converter. comes with the adapters for atlas II.

$1800obo Or trade for an NV4500 built or not built with chevy BH and adapters for atlas

I have alot more than this invested going another route on my new rig.
Thanks for looking

right there. a certifed mechanic from inidana, that means he is a idiot and drain on society. its like saying he is a double retard.

the seller couldnt tell you for certain that is was, and you never checked for youself to verify, you both fucked up.


fwiw, it is not the end of the world if it is a 305, it will still run and well at that, if it was a carbed motor i could understand why you would be pissed, but you have a desent, fresh motor with a good fuel efficent efi system, you might be happier with it than you originaly thought.

[Big91RustyBucket]

Originally Posted by ChiScouter

The OP posted once, and you have now posted 3 times in this thread. Do you have some sort of a hard on for 4 linked, the OP, or are you just some sort of a drama queen looking to stir up shit

Nope I have no Hard on. Just trying to hope this gets squared out since I am helping the OP Finish His truck.
What Hand do you have in this? I have seen the motor etc etc how bout you?

[ChiScouter]

Originally Posted by Big91RustyBucket

I was over today , and also noticed the issues. Hope to see this taken care of.

You noticed the issues, what does that mean, you checked the bore and stroke , checked numbers on the block, or just figured it looked like a 305

Originally Posted by Big91RustyBucket

Thing is The motor was supposedly Rebuilt. So If he Rebuilt it right before the sale He would of know it wasn't a 350. I agree I asked him if he looked at it but he didn't figure to see if it was a 5.0 vs 5.7 since it had just been rebuilt.

It sounds like the seller bought it as a rebuilt, so he didn't rebuild it. Did you read the original ad, or you just talking shit

Originally Posted by Big91RustyBucket

Nope I have no Hard on. Just trying to hope this gets squared out since I am helping the OP Finish His truck.
What Hand do you have in this? I have seen the motor etc etc how bout you?

I haven't seen the motor and don't care what it is. If I started a thread and some dopey buddy of mine kept stirring the pot I would tell him to knock it off as I don't need some 3rd party to stir up more shit every couple of hours like a 3rd grade girl. If the Op wanted it topped every couple of hours he would do it himself. Topping a thread like this every few hours is disrespectful to everyone else on the forum. Is your buddys problem so much more important than everyone elses that it has to be above them all

The Op bought the engine in Oct and it took him till March to figure out that it was the wrong engine, as a 3rd party I think he waited too long and shouldn't have started the thread. The OP said he picked up the engine, therefore he has a phone number for the seller and knows where the seller lives. Since the OP and seller are in neighboring states the OP should call the guy and if that doesn't work drive to the guys house and set up shop on his front porch. After all of that I think he waited to long to check and he should learn a lesson and move on.

[Big91RustyBucket]

Originally Posted by ChiScouter

You noticed the issues, what does that mean, you checked the bore and stroke , checked numbers on the block, or just figured it looked like a 305



It sounds like the seller bought it as a rebuilt, so he didn't rebuild it. Did you read the original ad, or you just talking shit




I haven't seen the motor and don't care what it is. If I started a thread and some dopey buddy of mine kept stirring the pot I would tell him to knock it off as I don't need some 3rd party to stir up more shit every couple of hours like a 3rd grade girl. If the Op wanted it topped every couple of hours he would do it himself. Topping a thread like this every few hours is disrespectful to everyone else on the forum. Is your buddys problem so much more important than everyone elses that it has to be above them all

The Op bought the engine in Oct and it took him till March to figure out that it was the wrong engine, as a 3rd party I think he waited too long and shouldn't have started the thread. The OP said he picked up the engine, therefore he has a phone number for the seller and knows where the seller lives. Since the OP and seller are in neighboring states the OP should call the guy and if that doesn't work drive to the guys house and set up shop on his front porch. After all of that I think he waited to long to check and he should learn a lesson and move on.

I think all that matters is the guy said it was a 350. It's a 305 Therefore he lied. I don't think time matters. If I bought something from you and you said what it was I would expect it is. I would have no reason to doubt you would I? It took him this long to save cash and get stuff together to swap the motor.Not everyone is loaded and can do stuff riight away.I think it's funny because you really don't give a shit about this thread more enjoy trying to give me shit for something I wanted to buy from you years ago ,and decided not to.Since every chance you have you try saying some shit to me. Oh well keep amusing me...

[trkklr77]

look here skippy, you said your self that the seller never checked to see if it was a 350 or not, he was told it was, he sold it based on what he was told, it was in good faith to the seller that it was a 350, both YOU and the buyer neglected to verify this fact and again took it on good faith that it was a 350.

you guys dropped the ball that the seller didnt have a good grip on either. you both fucked up buying a "rebuilt" motor from a certified mech in indiana.

i hope yall have a big box of dunce caps cause there is a whole mess a heads needn them.

[87GMCsierra]

I bought the engine a while ago because i had cash and it seemed like a good deal to me. The seller told me it was a 350 so i bought it and set it aside. I didn't know how to tell the difference then. I finally rounded up more money to get my old flywheel resurfaced and was going to put it on the crank when I noticed the number 5.0LG stamped on the back of the block. I then looked up the for sale add to see if it said it was a 350, and it did. I know it has been a while but it still isn't the engine that was advertised that is why i posted up here. If im wrong about this than I am but I think the seller should have known exactly what he was selling before posting it on here for sale.

[4Linked]

I told you about the engine to the best of my knowledge. I bought the engine rebuilt and was told that it is a 350. I feel no obligation to refund the money as the sale was as is. I would have been happy to check the number or walk in to the office and check it online right then when you were there.

[Tony Raine]

yeah, i can see fault on both sides. i agree the seller should know what they are selling. but... the buyer should have checked it out before dropping cash. i don't know jack about chevy's, but i bet i could tell the difference between a 305 and 350 with about 5 min. of google time.

the time is a major factor. if you found out it was different right after you got it home, then i could see a refund being in order. but close to 6 months? how does the original seller know you (the buyer) didn't F with the motor or wiring in that 6 months? or if you had it stored in a damp area, and stuff got rusted and/or corroded? or any number of things that can happen to something sitting in a corner for months on end?

[Chazzworth]

The Seller made a mistake and you did as well. Just run it. Not his fault, the time thing is the killer on this.

[samota87]

A 305 has a 2" hermonic balancer and a 350 has a noticeable smaller I think 1.5 wide hermonic balancer. Thats the first thing i look for when buying an engine. The 305 also has a different exhaust port bolt pattern on the drives front and passenger rear. So the exhaust manifolds are a little different. Anyway most tpi camaros were all 305 to my knowledge. So IMO yor just as dumb as the guy who sold it. He probably didnt know any better as you obviously didnt either.

[ChiScouter]

Originally Posted by Big91RustyBucket

I think all that matters is the guy said it was a 350. It's a 305 Therefore he lied. I don't think time matters. If I bought something from you and you said what it was I would expect it is. I would have no reason to doubt you would I? It took him this long to save cash and get stuff together to swap the motor.Not everyone is loaded and can do stuff riight away.I think it's funny because you really don't give a shit about this thread more enjoy trying to give me shit for something I wanted to buy from you years ago ,and decided not to.Since every chance you have you try saying some shit to me. Oh well keep amusing me...

I don't remember selling anything to a rustbucket guy. I do remember some dingdong logger named projunkracing that jacked me around on a sale. Is that you? If so why do you have more than one username?

[mudtoy67]

Originally Posted by onetontoy

My opinion is both parties are a lil at fault here. Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on...

Originally Posted by trkklr77

the seller couldnt tell you for certain that is was, and you never checked for youself to verify, you both fucked up.

Originally Posted by Tony Raine

yeah, i can see fault on both sides. i agree the seller should know what they are selling. but... the buyer should have checked it out before dropping cash.

Originally Posted by Chazzworth

The Seller made a mistake and you did as well. Just run it. Not his fault, the time thing is the killer on this.

Ok, so many people seem to agree that both the buyer and the seller are at fault here for not verifying the item is what it is. So why should the buyer shoulder 100% of the loss for this screw-up? Maybe a full refund is not plausible, but at least a partial refund to help the buyer towards finding a replacement short block sounds reasonable. Even then, the seller doesn't have to be out of a loss at all. Shouldn't he be able to get that money back from his "friend" who can't seem to read a bore gauge?

[trkklr77]

to be clear, i was saying that "both" Big91RustyBucket and 87GMCsierra fucked up by not checking it out when it became questionable to what it was. they knew that the seller wasnt 100% that it was a 350.