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Old 05-17-2009, 08:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jeff Roberts / East Coast Engine WARNING !!!! potential FRAUD ALERT

If Jeff Roberts owes you parts that you have paid for and are over due please check in here.

Please state your name and the date the parts were owed.


I will see if I can get some results.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I sent Jeff my harness, computer, and money at the end of Nov 09. I have talked with him several times and he keeps saying it will ship next week. After the last thread about him, I called and sent a few PM's. He told me he knows I am waiting and that was it. I sent back a response asking for a realistic time frame. He has not responed since (last week).
I should have known better than to use a no name company to save a buck. The thing that gets me, is that if he is soo back up making and modding harnesses, why is he on here pimping crate motors with the very harness I need?
I know there are a ton of other guys in this same situation, so please post up.
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Jeff's reply to me is that he is too busy to post in here and besides he doesn't like drama. so he has sent his customers a PM.


I am calling total Bullshit on that. but to be sure, who has received a PM from him with ship dates ?
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No response yet. If he doesn't like drama, then he shouldn't create it.

thanks for looking in to this
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My name is Bo Hegstrom,
I have called him but he doesn't call back. maybe you can see whats up. i just want my wiring harness, computer and maf sensor he can pm me or he should have my email. let me know. delivery was on december 8th

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Old 05-18-2009, 10:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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not looking good. Jeff is telling me not to post that I think he is a fraud which in my opinion it sure seems like he is.

I will advise everybody at this point to seek legal action as I do not believe he intends to deliver
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Long story short. I've been biting my tongue for a while reading all this about Jeff.

Our customer's name is Rich Leach. I saw East Coast Engines in the vender section here, did some research and there was no negative feedback at the time, so I had Rich order an engine from him. He ordered a 6.0 back on January 22nd. Jeff promised the engine would go out in 14 days. We even received calls that he had the engine and that it was about to go out. April 3rd, we got an engine that was laying on its side in the crate. Not too much was damaged, but did have a smashed power steering pump and plug wires. The harness was promised to show up the day after the engine got here. A week after the engine got here, he said he got a power steering pump and the other parts that were damaged, that they were boxed up, and were shipping out. Talked to Jeff yesterday, said he didn't have a pump that we would like, I told him if he had one that worked to send it out. He said the rest of the parts were boxed and going out yesterday and that we would PROBABLY get the harness to us next week. I told him that if he had told us it would take 4 months to get our shit then we would have dealt with it or gone elsewhere, his response was that he didn't know that he'd be so busy.

In response to the guy asking how he pimps crate engines with the harnesses that were supposed to go out to other customer months ago, well he doesn't.

Just remembered this! A month after this engine was ordered, we were shopping for another 6.0. Called Jeff and asked if his business was always run this way, because we do a lot of engine jobs and could bring him a lot of business. Told us that he didn't care if we ordered anything from him, he's got plenty of people ordering from him everyday, that we could go elsewhere if we were in a hurry, and that HE DIDN'T NEED OUR BUSINESS.

Obviously, since our customer ordered the engine directly, we are not out anything, except for his rig sitting here without an engine. I am posting this because we are the one's having to deal with Jeff. However, if we don't get parts soon the customer will be taking legal action against Jeff.

We just want some parts, and we'll never call, bother, or order anything from Jeff again.
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We sent our harness, computer and $264 to Jeff Robert on Sept. 23, 2008. Without giving us a firm date (sound familiar) I assumed that it would be about 2 months. In three days it will be 8 MONTHS since we sent him our stuff and money. On April 20th he threatened me that if I had lost him any engine sales due to my comments on this site that I would never see the harness and computer again, and that he would modify our harness in 2 weeks. 2 weeks was up on May 4th. I email him on May 5th and his response was that he doesn't do wiring anymore. I think I've asked him to return our harness, computer, and the $264 about 5 times. Each time he refuses! Our project is now sitting, waiting for him to complete the modifications that we have already paid for. I'm sure that if the situation were reversed, Jeff would be on here doing the same thing that all of us are doing. He seems to like the LS1tech.com site too. His frequent posts there show just how informed he is. His knowledge far surpasses mine and I only sent him our stuff after being impressed with his vast knowledge that he seemed to have. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW HE CAN KEEP RUNNING HIS NAME AND REPUTATION INTO THE GROUND BY NOT LIVING UP TO HIS END OF ALL THESE DEALS. I only know of 1 satisfied customer. Thanks, Nomader
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I have been waiting since begining of November and have not once recieved a message or phone call once from Jeff. I have asked for my harness back and even told him to keep the money ($400 off of his website) but he refuses. My whole project has been waiting on this for 8 months now. There goes all my plans for the summer.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I email him on May 5th and his response was that he doesn't do wiring anymore. I think I've asked him to return our harness, computer, and the $264 about 5 times. Each time he refuses!
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Just remembered this! A month after this engine was ordered, we were shopping for another 6.0. Called Jeff and asked if his business was always run this way, because we do a lot of engine jobs and could bring him a lot of business. Told us that he didn't care if we ordered anything from him, he's got plenty of people ordering from him everyday, that we could go elsewhere if we were in a hurry, and that HE DIDN'T NEED OUR BUSINESS.

Obviously, since our customer ordered the engine directly, we are not out anything, except for his rig sitting here without an engine. I am posting this because we are the one's having to deal with Jeff. However, if we don't get parts soon the customer will be taking legal action against Jeff.

We just want some parts, and we'll never call, bother, or order anything from Jeff again.
This guy needs to be lynched, thats the only law he deserves, taking legal action wll only enable him to close shop to one alias and start a new one...

I'd be willing to bet he doesn't even have the harnesses and comps half the people have sent him.
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His reply to my request to give you guys a ship date on your product.
It is gibberish



Are you a legitimate shop?

Unless you own your own business and have new customers every day and make $40,000.00 dollars a month or more, you wont understand. I know I woudlnt understand, and now that I do, I have a different look on the way things are run.

Good luck with your threads, I will have no part in them.

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Old 05-20-2009, 01:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Just doing a little research to see what this guy is all about:

Cut and Pasted from his website:

"Currently, Jeff is the only one behind the company. He has taught himself everything he knows from reading literature, learning as much as possible and with everyday hand on experience. You will be Working with and buying from Jeff, and talking to no one else. This company stands for the Best prices, Best Customer Service, and the Best Bang for your Buck. Jeff helps to provide as much information with any engine swap as humanly possible. ECE (East Coast Engines) stands against just the oppositve of what ECE stands for."

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His reply to my request to give you guys a ship date on your product.
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Are you a legitimate shop?

Unless you own your own business and have new customers every day and make $40,000.00 dollars a month or more, you wont understand. I know I woudlnt understand, and now that I do, I have a different look on the way things are run.

Good luck with your threads, I will have no part in them.

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Sounds like a true con artist. I am more pissed at myself for sending this guy my parts and money. Only did it cause a friend had good luck and like a 6-8 week turn around. When I talked to Jeff originally to order (back in Nov), he told me he was done doing the harnesses and mine would be one of the last? Sounds like he just keep taking the jobs and money, just not delivering.
What about the legal side of this? Are we just fawked or do we have a leg to stand on? Or maybe some friends in NY to help?
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We need a few fellow NY members to pay Mr. Jeff Roberts a visit and get our shit back! I don't even care about the money , just want my harness and comp so I can send it to a real business and get it done. Anyone that can help pm me for more info.


Oh and its must be pretty easy for him to make $40,000 a month if he doesn't do anything but take peoples money

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Old 05-20-2009, 04:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I noticed that google has not picked up this thread yet under his business name.

Google Jeff Roberts and this thread show up on the first page.

need to add his business name in the thread so that it shows up on google as the first search result.


East coast Engines
851 Knox Cave Road
Altamont NY 12009

Phone: 1-800- 598-5247
Email: Sales@EastCoastEngines.com
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Blow this fawkstick up!! EAST COAST ENGINES IS A FRAUD .
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Jeff Robert, Now it's 40K per month. Hmmm 40K X 12 months= 480K annually. Does anyone here know anyone who works for the IRS? Jeff all we want is our stuff. You'd be doing the same if you were the one being screwed. This group of complaints doesn't mention any of your previous companys. PCMamerica.com, AutoComputerTech.com, MuscleSportsandImports.com, or you new Ebay company. How many others are out there that we don't know about. I'ts a real shame what you are doing to paying customers. It's not too late to correct your past mistakes. The bad press will probably continue until we all get what we paid you for. We know that you will start an new business venture soon, and we'll find you there too. One month one day ago you said you'd be done with our harness in two weeks. I'd ask again that you live up to your commitmet or refund our $ and equipment. Thanks Jeff, I know you can do it!
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I live a few miles from Altamont and I've never heard of him or his business...

Maybe I'm sheltered???
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:41 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Look up this guys addy on google maps and check out the place that comes up. Its sure as hell isn't small. I got a feeling that he's ripping people off to make house payments on the huge ass house and garage that come up on google.
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Tried the link from his site to "e-bay products" got the
following -"The seller UserID you entered was not found."
Wonder what ID he's using now?????
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He needs to be intrduced to Charles Wenzel. And that was one guy and 120 bucks!
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he owes me a pcm and a harness 4 a lt1,he also has 400 dollars of mine but luckly myself and some of the car club will be down that way this summer we intend to even things up then but just to let you no he screwed me also
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Wow this is almost worse than USA 6x6 , Charlie Wenzel , and Tides612.... Hope everyone gets squared away.
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Has anyone heard anything from him yet or received their stuff? He has now blocked me from sending pms to him so what does that tell you! I'm fucked!!! Do I just buy a new harness and comp now or what?? What is everyone else doing??

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He has not responded to any of my recent calls or pms either. Sounds like alot of people are in the same boat. Anybody know what we can do legally?
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