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Old 12-15-2009, 12:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Portal Tek warning

This was posted in another folder and I am repeating it here so folks can find it. This is about Portal Tek taking money and never delivering anything but one excuse after another.

Just to keep everyone filled in and eliminate any guess work. I got a PM from Jim at Portal Tek in response to the message above saying they has sent me emails explaining their poor financial condition and that they could not make any head way towards repayment. While that may be believable to some I've heard this sort of thing before. They also had my phone number and they also could have PMd me here. They didn't so apparently Portal Tek wasn't all that sincere in making a real effort to keep me abreast of the situation, email or not.

This saga began a few years ago. Basically they took a substantial sum of money, $5000 to be exact and never delivered a product of any kind. All I got was a long long sting of one story after another. That was years ago and while the current management made a commitment to me a couple of months ago to repay me after I stuck my head up here, I haven't seen one red cent nor have I heard from them since.

Just so you all know, after giving them a fair shot at correcting the situation, god knows they have had ample time, I am now suggesting that anyone contemplating doing business with Portal Tek do it strictly on a COD basis. Advance Portal Tek no money whatsoever, if you do, you may never see anything from it.

I am now starting to hear from others that they are currently in the very same dilemma as I and that their deal originated long after mine got underway. A down payment, deposit, first payment whatever followed by a long string of excuses etc. etc. etc. This is a becoming an all too familiar MO with them to be a real company intent on delivering on their promises.
Real businesses get their financing by taking on financial partners, getting loans from banks, taking a second on their house etc. They do not do it at the market's expense and without the customer's knowledge. The law has a term for that and the term is fraud whether or not it may have been intentional and planned from the start. However, in my case $5K simply isn't enough to pursue in either the criminal or civil courts. All I can do is try to see to it that others aren't taken is as well.

Yellow star or not, do not trust these people with your money. The money they used to buy their yellow star actually belonged to others like myself and it will be yours too if you give it to them.

You've all been warned. So I fell I have done my duty to the wheeling community and my concience is clear. At least it has to be clearer than theirs.

If this message is deleted I will continue to let others know on other boards not to let themselves be cheated and stolen from as I fell I have. I will also attempt to get others to repeat the same warning here and elsewhere. If it is deleted it will be an indication of what this board truly values and that would be income over the interests of the wheeling community and readership. I will post a copy of this in the bad sellers folder.

If by some miracle they do make restitution, I will post a retraction every bit as public as this. In fact, I would be happy to and would much rather have that happen.

While some say I am an asshole, at least I always strive to be fair whether or not you think I am a mean old man. I don't think it at all unfair for me to ask for repayment of the $5000 after this much time has elapsed and having received nothing but one excuse after another.
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5 grand is a chunk of change and several YEARS is a long go... every right to be slightly heated.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As I have said before, I more or less wrote it off as a lesson in life a long time ago and I should have know better than to do that in the first place. But I am not going to be cheated out of it again or stand by and not say anything while they pull the same stunt on other unsuspecting folks. That just would not be the right thing to do on my part.
If they had curled up and died that would have been OK but to say they are going to pay me then start telling me the same line of bullshit all over again is just too much to put up with. This time they are either going to pay up or that busness will die off for good before I quit.

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Any links to threads, websites ect?
BTW, your are being a Dick. Dick Foster that is.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So was this a deal thru PBB????
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I always feel like the devils advocate in this forum, but...

If you're posting here, it had better be PBB related. You had also better have worked or tried to work with the seller before posting here.

Link to the original thread in your dispute thread. If the thread was deleted please PM SanDiegoCJ or myself and we will restore the thread and lock it so it cannot be deleted.

If it's a vendor issue you had better given them some time to make things right. Parts get back ordered and the UPS guy loses stuff. We are here to help but we can't make parts magically appear!

If it is PBB related, it had better be 100% factual. Get caught lying here and you could be Wenzeled.

Just the facts... no opinions, no he said, she said.

This post seems to go against all of the rules, but maybe I am missing something??

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Maybe you should even read the thread before shooting your mouth off.

It's all very factual just look, in the thread in the other folder. I don't owe you any damn explanations but it's all laid out and yes it is all very factual. Even agreed to and fully admitted by Portal Tek now.

I am simply warning people not to allow themselves to be taken. In case you missed it, that is the very point of this folder, bozo.

I have also paid $5000 for the privilege, now what have you paid to run your mouth about it?

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I always feel like the devils advocate in this forum, but...

If you're posting here, it had better be PBB related. You had also better have worked or tried to work with the seller before posting here.

Link to the original thread in your dispute thread. If the thread was deleted please PM SanDiegoCJ or myself and we will restore the thread and lock it so it cannot be deleted.

If it's a vendor issue you had better given them some time to make things right. Parts get back ordered and the UPS guy loses stuff. We are here to help but we can't make parts magically appear!

If it is PBB related, it had better be 100% factual. Get caught lying here and you could be Wenzeled.

Just the facts... no opinions, no he said, she said.

This post seems to go against all of the rules, but maybe I am missing something??

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Gee that's real original, I've never heard that one before. Don't quit your day job, you'd starve trying to cut it as a comedian.

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BTW, your are being a Dick. Dick Foster that is.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow, okay I read your post and it doesnt really tell me anything, do you have a link to the other folder you speak of?? EDIT: I went back and read the original "folder" Super 14 Bolt thread. I think we shoud take up a collection and once we get your $5k back we can pay you to STFU. That is all.

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So was this a deal thru PBB????
The promise to repay was made here on the PBB, in the 14 bolt thread....seems PBB related to me and they are a vendor here.
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I have never met the Dick, but from what I gather he is a man of his word!
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If you come by any money, don't send it to me. You need much worse that I do. You need it to have a proctologist remove your head from your ass. I don't think insurance normally covers procedures like that.

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Wow, okay I read your post and it doesnt really tell me anything, do you have a link to the other folder you speak of?? EDIT: I went back and read the original "folder" Super 14 Bolt thread. I think we shoud take up a collection and once we get your $5k back we can pay you to STFU. That is all.

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If you come by any money, don't send it to me. You need much worse that I do. You need it to have a proctologist remove your head from your ass. I don't think insurance normally covers procedures like that.
Mr. Foster, I apologize, I should not have stuck my nose in your business as you are obviously just trying to keep people from being in your situation with this company. Please disregard all of my previous posts on this matter (I dont want to delete them it will make it difficult to understand this post).

I am 100% out of this.

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Quit being dicks guys. This guy is out some g's after years. It's a vendor and a member on here.
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The biggest warning here is that apparently Portal tech is currently incapable of coming up with 5K?

What person in their right mind would now send money to a company that close to being out of business?
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Apology accepted. No sweat, that's just what life is, a series of learning from mistakes. BTW You can call me Dick. Mr. Foster is my dad. LOL

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Mr. Foster, I apologize, I should not have stuck my nose in your business as you are obviously just trying to keep people from being in your situation with this company. Please disregard all of my previous posts on this matter (I dont want to delete them it will make it difficult to understand this post).

I am 100% out of this.

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The previous owner of PortalTek got the cash, the new owner (Jim) is trying to make good on it. (Liabilities of the previous owner aren't necessarily part of a buy/sell transaction.) A five year old transaction certainly would not have been on the books as a current liability.

Given that the original deal was made in 2004(?), the offer to make Dickfosters whole was clearly an effort to try to do the right thing. But with Dickfosters' smear campaign on this and the 14B threads, the new owner at PortalTek will get diddly squat for his $5K of "good will" other than an end to the blackmail campaign.

This should have been settled years ago, and if Dickfosters can't wait for the new owner to get his head above water to send a $5K cookie, he ought to take it up with the previous owner who took the cash and failed to ship the part. [/Rant]
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When you buy a business you accept all liability. IMO, PT needs to make it right. Just say Danny fuck of 6x6 sold his company...
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When you buy a business you accept all liability. IMO, PT needs to make it right. Just say Danny fuck of 6x6 sold his company...
Actually, you don't, unless it's written into the buy/sell agreement and is disclosed at the time of the sale.
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And just were is your dog in this fight, fuckstick. Want to put some money down or just run your stupid mouth and prove how damn stupid you are.

It's none of your fucking business, asshat.

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The previous owner of PortalTek got the cash, the new owner (Jim) is trying to make good on it. (Liabilities of the previous owner aren't necessarily part of a buy/sell transaction.) A five year old transaction certainly would not have been on the books as a current liability.

Given that the original deal was made in 2004(?), the offer to make Dickfosters whole was clearly an effort to try to do the right thing. But with Dickfosters' smear campaign on this and the 14B threads, the new owner at PortalTek will get diddly squat for his $5K of "good will" other than an end to the blackmail campaign.

This should have been settled years ago, and if Dickfosters can't wait for the new owner to get his head above water to send a $5K cookie, he ought to take it up with the previous owner who took the cash and failed to ship the part. [/Rant]
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And just were is your dog in this fight, fuckstick. Want to put some money down or just run your stupid mouth and prove how damn stupid you are.

It's none of your fucking business, asshat.
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Actually, you don't, unless it's written into the buy/sell agreement and is disclosed at the time of the sale.


When you buy the business you buy all customers, and warentys and debts unless you change the name of the business
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And just were is your dog in this fight, fuckstick. Want to put some money down or just run your stupid mouth and prove how damn stupid you are.

It's none of your fucking business, asshat.
Posting it in PBB you made it everybody's business. Be careful what you wish for. Now why don't you go back to your nap for another five years.
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Look folks this is not the place to discuss the details of business law. Just as the description reads, "Find out who to avoid here" This folder is here to let others know who they may want to steer clear of or check into a bit deeper before plunking down their hard earned money. That's it's purpose and that is why I posted in it.

If you care to check, you will see that several others have been having difficulty with the very same vendor and all along the same lines.

If you haven't done business with them, then you should simply keep your mouth shut because you have no stake in it and nothing to say. Your opinion is at best uninformed and you are simply unaware of the facts.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink so everyone should keep theirs to themselves.

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