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rajincajingt · 08-31-2010, 10:21 AM

thanks for the update, jeff

ErikB · 08-31-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DrVic723

...moving forward.

Good to hear.

TSEJEEPERS · 09-05-2010, 09:14 PM

Sounds like you are getting closer. Really not trying to rush you but do you think maybe these will be ready by next spring?

DrVic723 · 09-06-2010, 06:30 AM

I would say so, but we want some good test data before we send out a bunch of parts that don't hold up any better than what's already out there.

akecj7 · 09-07-2010, 08:26 AM

Are you still going to look into making the threads on the lower joint shorter to clear the RCV boots?

br0nc0xrapt0r · 09-07-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by akecj7

Are you still going to look into making the threads on the lower joint shorter to clear the RCV boots?

It would be nice if they did but it doesn't take much effort to trim em down.

akecj7 · 09-08-2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by br0nc0xrapt0r

It would be nice if they did but it doesn't take much effort to trim em down.

I brought this up eailer and Ballistic said

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Originally Posted by DrVic723

Because they will have a heat treat temper that will be quite susceptible to heat. I wouldn't warranty a stud that had been ground on for this reason, so we should come to a consensus now.

Jeff

DrVic723 · 09-08-2010, 08:03 AM

Made some more progress on the ball joints again yesterday, we think these should be pretty nice when done.

cagle · 09-08-2010, 08:31 AM

Nice! I'll take a set.

DrVic723 · 09-08-2010, 03:05 PM

Dana 44 upper joint, currently being prototyped from Ampco 45 high nickel bronze, 17-4PH H900 stud and 4340 Rc32 threaded preload nut and body.

ErikB · 09-08-2010, 03:25 PM

apeters89 · 09-08-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DrVic723

Dana 44 upper joint, currently being prototyped from Ampco 18 bronze, 17-4PH H900 stud and 4340 Rc32 threaded preload nut and body.

damn, looks good! I'll be interested in seeing the results from your testing.

or helping test

ranger2000 · 09-08-2010, 04:04 PM

Pardon my retardedness, but are these rebuildable?

apeters89 · 09-08-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ranger2000

Pardon my retardedness, but are these rebuildable?

they sure look like it

DrVic723 · 09-08-2010, 04:23 PM

Here is an assembly video of the upcoming ball joint.

YouTube - Ballistic Ball Joint.avi

redneckengineered · 09-08-2010, 06:05 PM

How far behind will the 60 joint be?

TSEJEEPERS · 09-08-2010, 07:31 PM

Looks good!
I would really like to put these balljoints in over the winter!

Y5mgisi · 09-08-2010, 07:34 PM

OMG! Thats awesome! Why has noone done this yet! Thanks you ballistic fab!

jsawduste · 09-08-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TSEJEEPERS

Looks good!
I would really like to put these balljoints in over the winter!

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Originally Posted by Y5mgisi

OMG! Thats awesome! Why has noone done this yet! Thanks you ballistic fab!

x 2 Let me know if you need any "field testing"

sasfrontier · 09-08-2010, 08:16 PM

Not sure if it would be a strength concern but could you put the grease zerk for the upper ball joint through the stud instead of the body. That way it is actually possible to grease it. I doubt a small drilling would take that much strength away.

DrVic723 · 09-08-2010, 09:22 PM

We have yet to nail down the final zerk location, but drilling a small enough hole through the stud to where it wouldn't affect strength would be fairly difficult in 17-4ph, but we will look into anything that will improve overall design and functionality.

DrVic723 · 09-08-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by redneckengineered

How far behind will the 60 joint be?

Were going to do the best we can to co-develop the two designs, but keep in mind that we don't even know if the current material choices and design will provide results that we're hoping for... so I'm going to stay away from developing everything all at once, but it shouldn't slow things down too badly, we still need to make a set of 44s and tourture test them.

BB1980 · 09-09-2010, 02:35 AM

Man, I just soiled myself a little.......

Kunker · 09-09-2010, 05:27 AM

Can't wait for this to be available.

DrVic723 · 09-09-2010, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ranger2000

Pardon my retardedness, but are these rebuildable?

Not only are they rebuildable with fresh races or stud, but if you look closely at the cap design in the cross-section pic you will see that over .040" of wear in the races can be taken out simply with a turn of the top cap. We will offer a spanner wrench that will make this possible to do without removing any more than your wheels and tires. This goes for the 60 versions as well.

Jeff

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TSEJEEPERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63333 Posts: 226	Looks good! I would really like to put these balljoints in over the winter! __________________ Morton IL, 93 YJ

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Y5mgisi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11491 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 652	OMG! Thats awesome! Why has noone done this yet! Thanks you ballistic fab! __________________ Now takeing donations, For the "GET MICHELL A DANA 60" fund........... :)

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DrVic723 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46226 Location: Tucson Az. Posts: 2,837	I would say so, but we want some good test data before we send out a bunch of parts that don't hold up any better than what's already out there.

09-07-2010, 08:26 AM	#330 (permalink)
akecj7 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 79306 Posts: 77	Are you still going to look into making the threads on the lower joint shorter to clear the RCV boots?

09-08-2010, 08:03 AM	#333 (permalink)
DrVic723 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46226 Location: Tucson Az. Posts: 2,837	Made some more progress on the ball joints again yesterday, we think these should be pretty nice when done.

09-08-2010, 08:31 AM	#334 (permalink)
cagle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Member # 164001 Location: Sparks NV Posts: 82	Nice! I'll take a set.

09-08-2010, 03:05 PM	#335 (permalink)
DrVic723 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46226 Location: Tucson Az. Posts: 2,837	Dana 44 upper joint, currently being prototyped from Ampco 45 high nickel bronze, 17-4PH H900 stud and 4340 Rc32 threaded preload nut and body.

09-08-2010, 04:04 PM	#338 (permalink)
ranger2000 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 78579 Location: Hopkinton, MA Posts: 513	Pardon my retardedness, but are these rebuildable?

09-08-2010, 04:23 PM	#340 (permalink)
DrVic723 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46226 Location: Tucson Az. Posts: 2,837	Here is an assembly video of the upcoming ball joint. YouTube - Ballistic Ball Joint.avi

09-08-2010, 06:05 PM	#341 (permalink)
redneckengineered angry Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21215 Location: Tennessee...The land of high horsepower and low IQ Posts: 4,262	How far behind will the 60 joint be?

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sasfrontier Wheeler Join Date: Nov 2008 Member # 123210 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 241	Not sure if it would be a strength concern but could you put the grease zerk for the upper ball joint through the stud instead of the body. That way it is actually possible to grease it. I doubt a small drilling would take that much strength away.

09-08-2010, 09:22 PM	#346 (permalink)
DrVic723 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46226 Location: Tucson Az. Posts: 2,837	We have yet to nail down the final zerk location, but drilling a small enough hole through the stud to where it wouldn't affect strength would be fairly difficult in 17-4ph, but we will look into anything that will improve overall design and functionality.

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09-09-2010, 05:27 AM	#349 (permalink)
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