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Old 02-21-2011, 05:30 PM   #501 (permalink)
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Order placed today! Now I'm looking forward to the rest of the week. Minus the "job" part....
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are 14 bolts cast iron or cast steel? i know some people who swear they're cast steel and don't need nickel rods and heating up and slow cooling processes but everywhere else i read they're cast iron.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:29 PM   #503 (permalink)
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5.13T gears for 4.10 carrier

So before I weld up my rear end, do I need to clearence the bottom plate for a 5.13 thick gear set? These are for the 4.10 carrier. I read somewhere they were needing a lil more for 5.38's but wanted to know if mine was ok. Thanks for your time.
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We have since corrected the issue, only the very first batch of 30 kits were affected. If your bottom plate has a machined pocket with one side straight and the other side curved then you are set. Ill see if I can get allen to post some drawings of the differences between the two revisions.

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Don't really have time to re-read the whole thread, but has anyone had any luck abrasive grinding their ring gear for the clearance? This would be for a dedicated trail truck.
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Don't really have time to re-read the whole thread, but has anyone had any luck abrasive grinding their ring gear for the clearance? This would be for a dedicated trail truck.
I can't recall the customer who did it, but there have been a couple. As long as you are careful to be as consistent as possible, I don't think it will be a huge issue unless you do a really poor job.
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What kind of turn around do you have on gear sets sent to you for machining? And maybe this is a stupid question, but can you give a better explanation to the needle scaler process? I have used them, but only for clean up and paint/rust removal. How does this process help and is it absolutely necessary?
Wondering this as well.
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What kind of turn around do you have on gear sets sent to you for machining? And maybe this is a stupid question, but can you give a better explanation to the needle scaler process? I have used them, but only for clean up and paint/rust removal. How does this process help and is it absolutely necessary?
the needle scaler is used to relieve stress from welding on the cast. i didnt have a needle scaler so i just beat the piss out of it with the sharp end of a chippin hammer, and wrapped it with welding blankets.





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After wAtching the 14 bolt 101 episode on extreme4x4 I mig welded mine. cleaned the surface with acetone and went to town welded inside and out pretty sure I won't have any issues. and there are 2 solid passes on the outside
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Glad to see this was put back up! I was looking for it as well. Just got my shave finished. Now I need to get it under the rig.


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Great job guys!
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:57 AM   #512 (permalink)
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Mig or Ni

Flatblack51......... what made you decide to go mig instead or Ni stick. I have 2 lbs or Ni rod and was planning to shave and weld mine this weekend, but after talking to the guys at my local welding supply shop,(& scraching my head while Ian on extreme mig'd his) they stated the following:
"if it's Cast steel", weld it with mig or whatever you would regular mild steel
"if it's Cast Iron", preheat, weld with Ni rod, impinge, post heat, etc...

Use a chisel and hammer to differentiate between the two:
"if it Curls off", it's Cast Steel,........ mig it
"if it chips off", it's Cast Iron,.......... preheat, Ni rod, post heat

Checked mine this morning and it Curls off. I'm thinking I'll do a little preheat, weld with wire feed mig, and wrap to cool.

If they're right with their advice, my shave just got easier.........Anyone have any objections or experience to lend??

P.S. Dr Vic..... The clearance diagram would be great as I was one of the original 30 kits and I'll be running 5.38 with ARB. (It's about time I get it installed, I've been looking at it for a year now)
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P.S. Dr Vic..... The clearance diagram would be great as I was one of the original 30 kits and I'll be running 5.38 with ARB. (It's about time I get it installed, I've been looking at it for a year now)




Some guys never had any issues, so you may not either.
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Old 06-03-2011, 02:11 PM   #514 (permalink)
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Thanks for the diagram. If all goes well I'll be installing my kit this weekend. I'll post up some pics next week.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:21 PM   #515 (permalink)
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How well will the center section hold up after doing this in a ultra 4 type buggy getting pounded in the desert and being jumped? I want to do this kit but want to make sure it can take a beating with out cracking open. My 14 is already trusses on top very well
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The customer who started this thread no longer wishes it to be posted, so he has deleted it numerous times. Please go to the thread started by Ballistic Eng that is listed above.

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