241 205 doubler

[kymudhunter]

Does it matter you reckon, if the 241 is driver or passenger drop?

[confederate muscle]

the driver drop versions will be way more common. as far as this kit, i dont know if they are making it for both or if there is even a difference other that what sid ethe shifter will be on.

Just got an email from them a day or two ago saying it will probably be around late february before we see the kit.

IDK

[kymudhunter]

I've got a d-side drop one, so maybe I am good regardless.

[77k5]

The latest news is late this month, after KOH.

We've been slammed with day to day stuff and putting a new axle/front suspension under the racer, we should be back on new stuff after KOH.

[Laeirocz]

Originally Posted by 77k5

The latest news is late this month, after KOH.

We've been slammed with day to day stuff and putting a new axle/front suspension under the racer, we should be back on new stuff after KOH.

Glad I came here to find that out, had one on order since the beginning of December. And you keep telling me "any day now," or "by the end of this week," every time I have called. Or also the "I will check on that and call you back" phone still hasn't rung...

Guess I will wait until the end of the month, good thing I was not in any hurry for it.

[rockhumper_3]

it will only work with a driver drop case. so youre good.

[77k5]

Originally Posted by Laeirocz

Glad I came here to find that out, had one on order since the beginning of December. And you keep telling me "any day now," or "by the end of this week," every time I have called. Or also the "I will check on that and call you back" phone still hasn't rung...

Guess I will wait until the end of the month, good thing I was not in any hurry for it.

I apologize that this has been drug out, the "any day now" has been an honest assessment. We have the material and I have the drawings in the computer for our CNC, we're just waiting on time to machine the parts.

As KOH approached time was diverted to getting the racer ready (new front axle/suspension etc in the last two weeks) and "any day" is the response that I got from the shop, now that KOH is here it won't be possible until everyone is back from the race. It should be priority #1 starting the 3rd week in Feb.

As for not getting back to you, that is 100% me. We've been slammed, busier every day, I've been essentially the lone tech help this month and I let it slip through the cracks and for that I do apologize.

[BurbanFreek]

Nice to see your racing endeavors are more important that customers.

[77k5]

Originally Posted by BurbanFreek

Nice to see your racing endeavors are more important that customers.

It's a new product and it's development has been held up by more than just racing.

Again, it's the #1 priority once our head machinist is back in the shop.

[kymudhunter]

will ORD offer the service of modifying the 241 for the kit?

[Laeirocz]

Originally Posted by 77k5

I apologize that this has been drug out, the "any day now" has been an honest assessment. We have the material and I have the drawings in the computer for our CNC, we're just waiting on time to machine the parts.

As KOH approached time was diverted to getting the racer ready (new front axle/suspension etc in the last two weeks) and "any day" is the response that I got from the shop, now that KOH is here it won't be possible until everyone is back from the race. It should be priority #1 starting the 3rd week in Feb.

As for not getting back to you, that is 100% me. We've been slammed, busier every day, I've been essentially the lone tech help this month and I let it slip through the cracks and for that I do apologize.

Fair enough, just gets frustrating not getting a clear answer.

Originally Posted by BurbanFreek

Nice to see your racing endeavors are more important that customers.

I thought the same thing at first, but then I thought about it...The whole reason we work is so we can play, if we cant play, why work? I know i would be prepping and going to KOH, if I could afford the parts and the time off of work to do so.

[confederate muscle]

well, I for one am still up for this kit. Id like to see them actually in production before I make and order, but with the track record ORD has, i really have no worries that the product will hold up and be backed by the company.

my project has takin this long, it can hold out a month more

[Grumpy_old_fart]

I like that the company wants to take the time to put out a quality product instead of rushing in to make a half assed piece that will cost them reputation in the future.

Think of it in a business sense. If you put out a garbage product, you will have to outlive the poor response. I, for one, hope that the company will be able to provide this at all, what with all the other companies making doublers, stackable range boxes, multi-range cases, and other little doo-dads that people drool over so much.

Do it right, or dont bother.

But, thats my opinion.

[Cuda K5]

how well do the ORD guys think this set up will lubricate? I plan on running a completely flat 205, but I still drive to the trails approx 30 to 40 miles one way, and would like to go farther if I ever get my hoopty running good

[dahoyle]

Originally Posted by Cuda K5

how well do the ORD guys think this set up will lubricate? I plan on running a completely flat 205, but I still drive to the trails approx 30 to 40 miles one way, and would like to go farther if I ever get my hoopty running good

How well will what lubricate?


Hell, the 205 will lube better flat than it will stock, since it is all splash lubrication.

[Cuda K5]

Originally Posted by dahoyle

How well will what lubricate?


Hell, the 205 will lube better flat than it will stock, since it is all splash lubrication.

the 241

I'm not too familiar with the 241 (haven't even found one yet), but I had a friend tell me I may have problems burning up the bearings since you cut the pump off when you make the doubler.

Im not DDing my rig or anything but i will put a good 100 miles on it when i do take it out

[STACKED]

Any chance the kit will work with a long input 205?

[bggrnchvy]

Originally Posted by Cuda K5

the 241

I'm not too familiar with the 241 (haven't even found one yet), but I had a friend tell me I may have problems burning up the bearings since you cut the pump off when you make the doubler.

Im not DDing my rig or anything but i will put a good 100 miles on it when i do take it out

Factory p-drop 241's only take 3.8L of fluid and use the pump pickup to get lube to the non-immersed planetaries as they're clocked way down for the LP live front axle.

Even the d-drop's are clocked up higher from the factory and would probably lube fine filled to the fill plug without the pump.

Fill the 241 front case housing halfway with fluid and you will be fine.

[STACKED]

Any of these kits work with a long input 205?

[Grumpy_old_fart]

Originally Posted by STACKED

Any of these kits work with a long input 205?

it might be easier to swap inputs...

you could use a 31 spline Ford input
or a 32 spline chevy short input.

[mpascino]

We produce our 241 kit configured for a round pattern, long input 205. Below is a link to photos of the setup mating to a Ford 205, but the Chevy version is similar.

Let us know if you have any questions,
Thanks, Mike
Trail Tech Fab

http://www.trailtechfab.com/gallery/...?g2_itemId=167

[ssyork]

Originally Posted by bggrnchvy

Fill the 241 front case housing halfway with fluid and you will be fine.

X2,
I have ran mine out Pritchett canyon and back to town on the road doing 50-55mph a couple times. Also ran it across golden spike and bar, then back to town on the highway. Have driven it around on the pavement in South Dakota doing the same speed, for around 45-50 minutes too. None came out the breather, didn't burn anything up. I have it filled around 1/2 way with gear lube and half a bottle of lucas. Shifts great too.

[OutlawRider]

I have 2 241s and I believe only one even has a pump in it. I think the other just splashes. Been so long since I've been in them I'm not 100% on that.

[kp110477]

I see a lot of guys mentioning that they won't use their 241 doubled with a 205 as a daily driver. Is this just preference, or is there actually something about the doubled t-case that would prevent you from driving it as a daily driver (highway 70+ mph driving)? My plans are for a 89 Chevy Suburban (I believe it's passenger side drop, don't have access to my truck at the moment) that can cross the country on the interstate as well as it can go through rough hunting trails and maybe mild crawling. A bit of a beauty queen with a backbone, if you will.

Thanks,
KP

[ssyork]

Originally Posted by kp110477

I see a lot of guys mentioning that they won't use their 241 doubled with a 205 as a daily driver. Is this just preference, or is there actually something about the doubled t-case that would prevent you from driving it as a daily driver (highway 70+ mph driving)? My plans are for a 89 Chevy Suburban (I believe it's passenger side drop, don't have access to my truck at the moment) that can cross the country on the interstate as well as it can go through rough hunting trails and maybe mild crawling. A bit of a beauty queen with a backbone, if you will.

Thanks,
KP

If this was what I wanted a truck for I would just run the 241. Why double it for mild crawling? Throw some 4.56's in it and go. I don't know why you couldn't run a 241 doubler down the interstate though. Keep good fluid and make sure your breather is working well.