gm 10 bolt options? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > Chevy
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-15-2012, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Member # 211678
Posts: 5
gm 10 bolt options?

i have a GM 8.5 10 bolt, wanting to beef it up and go posi, but im wanting to still drive it on the road, but when i go to do a burnout i want both tires to light up all the time no problems, and i have heard a spool can be dangerous, so if you guys can give me some options and a list of stuff i need to do along with it! thanks
swanksta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2012, 08:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
Team Helen Keller
 
JM93LiftedYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Member # 128472
Location: North Country
Posts: 3,494
First.
__________________
Ghetto Thread All-Star: The Tin Can

Quote:
1. NEVER, EVER date a single mother.
Quote:
Originally Posted by void_of_light View Post
Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
JM93LiftedYJ is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-15-2012, 08:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Member # 174101
Posts: 2
Step 1: Toss that POS in the garbage.
Step 2: Install a 14-bolt in its place.
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit.
i960 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 04:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Member # 211678
Posts: 5
around what year would i find one under thats semi float?
swanksta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 06:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
Rock God
 
KyleQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Member # 83837
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,738
It's a time bomb, it will explode, it's just a matter of time. Any money put into a 10b is money thrown in the trash...
__________________
74' Bronco - Mustang Injected 5.8 - 105:1- Locked D60, Powr-Lok 70U - NP435 -Atlas2 3.8 - PSC Full Hydro - 5.5" lift - Cage Arms - 37" Cut & Grooved Boggers
Bronco Build Thread
KyleQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 06:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Member # 139990
Location: Central IN
Posts: 286
there is a thread started about the 14 bolt semi float 6 lug already just scroll down and start reading bud
its on page two in this chevy section
__________________
trucks are built, maintained, repaired by humans, you are a human you can do anything

Last edited by adam765; 02-16-2012 at 06:43 AM.
adam765 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 07:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Member # 183520
Location: NE Arkansas
Posts: 474
Quote:
Originally Posted by adam765 View Post
there is a thread started about the 14 bolt semi float 6 lug already just scroll down and start reading bud
its on page two in this chevy section
Do what? Search and read? That is only for literate people.
__________________
I never get stuck, only temporarily delayed!
OutlawRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 08:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Member # 13786
Location: moved 7 miles to colfax, ca.
Posts: 4,331
10 bolt+posi+ burnouts.................hmmm, we want a video of the carnage
KWTMECH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 08:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
party wagon
 
FordX4-offroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Member # 202878
Location: jojah
Posts: 2,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwtmech View Post
10 bolt+posi+ burnouts.................hmmm, we want a video of the carnage
x2
__________________
423-827-6890
Donovan


DC METALWERX
...

Last edited by FordX4-offroad; 02-16-2012 at 08:28 AM.
FordX4-offroad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 02:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Member # 83920
Location: What day is it?
Posts: 1,865
Quote:
Originally Posted by swanksta View Post
so if you guys can give me some options
First thing I would do, is get a new screen name, and never use that one again, for a number of reasons.
__________________
This isn't meant to be a flame job, but Jesus, do you guys ever read or search? Do you suppose your question has already been answered somewhere? Look it up for your fuckin self.
dahoyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 06:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
party wagon
 
FordX4-offroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Member # 202878
Location: jojah
Posts: 2,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by dahoyle View Post
First thing I would do, is get a new screen name, and never use that one again, for a number of reasons.
__________________
423-827-6890
Donovan


DC METALWERX
...
FordX4-offroad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 09:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Grumpy_old_fart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Member # 20147
Location: Oakland Orygun
Posts: 6,573
Send a message via Yahoo to Grumpy_old_fart
Quote:
Originally Posted by KWTMECH View Post
10 bolt+posi+ burnouts.................hmmm, we want a video of the carnage
shit.... we've seen the carnage.. why bother?

for the OP...

Take your right hand...

put it 10 inches behind your head

now SWING!
__________________
Empathy, apathy, sympathy.
Sympathy is between shit and syphilis in the dictionary.
Grumpy_old_fart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 12:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Member # 13786
Location: moved 7 miles to colfax, ca.
Posts: 4,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumpy_old_fart View Post
shit.... we've seen the carnage.. why bother?

For the brief 10 seconds of mild entertainment
KWTMECH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2012, 10:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Member # 198400
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 150
it all depends on the tire size you are running, and what gear ratio you want to throw in there. Any increase in tires size over stock will put more strain on the axles and joints. Changing to a lower gear ration will also put more strain on the axle shafts. The posi unit will help slightely offroad but is nothing compaired to a locker. The posi unit will increase your chances of breaking a shaft offroad. Now depending what size tire, gear ratio, and how much power you are putting behind all of this is what you need to consider. That axle is fine on road and offroad without mods, the second you change anything is when you really need to be careful. This happens with every axle, if you run 44inch tires on a stock dana 60 you will break it all day long.

If I were you I would keep my tire size under 35inch, and lower if possible. Also I would not go over a 4:10 gear ratio, anything over that and you will be pushing it. As far as a posi unit goes, why put a posi unit in a weak axle. On the one hand a posi unit doesn't help much, and it costs almost as much as a regular locker. If you are completely decided on a posi unit consider going with a lockrite and some manual locking hubs, that way when you pull on the street you can unlock your hubs and not break your axle shafts. Next I would get a forged diff cover of some sort, like a dynatrac or an ARB if you can find one. For the price it increases the overall axle tube strength and prevents flex in the tubes and helps the gears to stay more closely mated. This would be a relatively cheap axle build and would keep you from breaking as easily as a stock unit, however you are starting with a weak axle so there is only so much you can do. There are other options out there like forged knuckles and chromoly axle shafts. This is not the end of the road for this axle, you just need to figure out what you need it to withstand and develop a plan for making it strong enough to take the beating you put on it.

hope this helped
-Daniel
dpdatsunman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 10:46 AM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Member # 132811
Location: Troy, Ohio
Posts: 158
This is why you dont piss money at them
__________________
1979 Bronco 390 swap c6 in process.
oldschoolrides is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 10:58 AM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Member # 13644
Posts: 19
You like banana's? Only way to get a 10 bolt to live is to pack the housing with banana peels before adding the oils.
classicgm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 11:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Member # 83920
Location: What day is it?
Posts: 1,865
Quote:
Originally Posted by dpdatsunman View Post
This happens with every axle, if you run 44inch tires on a stock dana 60 you will break it all day long.


-Daniel
Bullshit. If you break an axle on a 60, you might or might not be able to drive out, with three wheels pulling if you are locked, or front wheel drive if you aren't. You break an axle on the POS 10 bolt, then you get a tricycle.

The OP's stated goal is 2 wheel burnouts, which implies that he intends to abuse it. Nothing about the 10 bolt is suited to abuse. The fact that you can break anything, doesn't make the 10 bolt a better axle. It's a POS barely suited to mild DD use with light loads, and low to moderate power levels.

Oh, a little reading comprehension goes a long way. He is interested in 2 wheel burnouts. How exactly does installing lockouts up front help prevent rear axle breakage? Same goes for forged knuckles, if any such thing actually existed, and it doesn't. They are all cast.

In any case, the entire thread is fucking stupid. It isn't like there isn't a ton of info out there about the axle, it's weaknesses, and what parts are available to "build" it.

Lastly, the idiot who posted the question combined the words "swank" and "gangsta" to come up with a screen name. There is nothing I can possible say about that, other than marvel at it's ...... Fuck, I don't know, I'm lost for words on that, other than it just makes me nauseous.
__________________
This isn't meant to be a flame job, but Jesus, do you guys ever read or search? Do you suppose your question has already been answered somewhere? Look it up for your fuckin self.

Last edited by dahoyle; 02-24-2012 at 11:23 AM.
dahoyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 11:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Member # 185237
Location: Fort Worth, Tx
Posts: 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschoolrides View Post
This is why you dont piss money at them
This happened to me twice with a 10 bolt. Once on a trail the diff blew up, and I mean broken teeth, ring gear in pieces, spider gears in pieces, carrier in half broken. Then once on the road, I had just sold a suburban to a guy, road was iced, he made it down the street tire started to spin and BOOM, same problem. Go 14 bolt, it'll save you money.

Sent from the road while ignoring traffic
kryptonitecb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 06:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
just4cuz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Member # 98655
Location: Alta Loma, Ca.
Posts: 1,945
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazerman71 View Post
theres not much parts to beef up a 10 bolt.....if your axle is 6 lug I would suggest finding a 6 lug 14 bolt semi float under a tahoe and swapping it in........ 10bolt axle + locker+ burnout= blown up axle or busted axle shafts
Not gonna find very many in Tahoes unless it is a 2 door diesel. Better to look at pickups with the F-44 code. 6 lug 2500's all have them from what I have seen and experienced. If you want to do burnouts why spend so much money, just weld it up. When it blows up, go buy another and weld it again. They are, cheap plentiful, and suit your purpose just fine. When you have a hardcore 4x4 question you should come back. Until that point you should post general questions like this in the general, 4x4 newbie, I'm a swanksta in my dreams forum.
just4cuz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 11:16 PM   #20 (permalink)
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Member # 110034
Location: Central PA
Posts: 43
2-door Tahoes came with a 10 bolt, for both gas and diesel.
93_Burrito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2012, 12:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Member # 138801
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by swanksta View Post
i have a GM 8.5 10 bolt, wanting to beef it up and go posi, but im wanting to still drive it on the road, but when i go to do a burnout i want both tires to light up all the time no problems, and i have heard a spool can be dangerous, so if you guys can give me some options and a list of stuff i need to do along with it! thanks
how old are you ?
geo in a K5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2012, 09:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Member # 198851
Location: NE
Posts: 251
GM 8.5 10 bolts can be found under 10 second cars at the drag strip.....They are fine with a good posi,not Gov-Loc, for street use with the usual auto tranny.
Abuse off road with big tires and something always seems to break.........
ADChevy4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2012, 09:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
Born to Lose
 
77WarPig's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Member # 160119
Location: Nevada/N.Idaho
Posts: 1,546
beef up a ten bolt=swap to something stronger

the end
77WarPig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2012, 09:40 AM   #24 (permalink)
Registered User
 
just4cuz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Member # 98655
Location: Alta Loma, Ca.
Posts: 1,945
Quote:
Originally Posted by 93_Burrito View Post
2-door Tahoes came with a 10 bolt, for both gas and diesel.
Pre 95 full size blazers with a 6.5 had a 14 bolt semi-floater in them and a 4l80 trans.
just4cuz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 10:37 AM   #25 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Member # 130928
Location: PlaP, manitoba, canada
Posts: 333
When people say things like "go posi" or "is it posi" It makes me want to punt them.
__________________
86 Silvy - 355/TH350/208/60F/12bolt(14FF Soon)/4.56s/37x13 Boggers
ryan_thompson87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.