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Old 04-27-2012, 11:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1986 k3500 35's loss of steering

Yesterday i wanted to go play in my field so..., i lock my hubs, turn the wheel and pop, i was on concrete i drove it off onto the dirt and it felt different. It was not turning as much as it normally does per turn of the wheel. I turned the wheel all the way to the right and sure enough it wasnt even close to turning all the way. same when turning to the left. it made the noise before i did anything with the t/c. i am kinda frustrated at this point and unlock my hubs and its fine now.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yesterday i wanted to go play in my field so..., i lock my hubs, turn the wheel and pop, i was on concrete i drove it off onto the dirt and it felt different. It was not turning as much as it normally does per turn of the wheel. I turned the wheel all the way to the right and sure enough it wasnt even close to turning all the way. same when turning to the left. it made the noise before i did anything with the t/c. i am kinda frustrated at this point and unlock my hubs and its fine now.
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if its fine now then whats the problem.


you got a locker? spool? or is this thing open in the front.. so basically your saying its harder to turn in 4x4 than 2x4. are you moving or is this at a stand still stop. if its at a standstill its going to be something with your box. if its while moving... duh
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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sorry when i said its fine now i meant its fine when hubs are unlocked. open diff. steering was difficult when parked. when moving, its turning radius was greatly increased but easy to turn.
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Im guessing but maybe your siders gears are exsessivly worn or binding due to broken/worn teeth. in 4wd hubs locked should be open diff... buuuuut if yo spiders be bindin yo front axles ability to differentiat da speed between da wheels makes in push like dem lockas son. sorry I ve been drinkin black coffee. Maybe you should pull your front diff cover and see whats inside. And have some one turn the steering wheel back and forth while you touch every thing that moves, including the frame the box bolts too.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ok its bad now, i was out at the dunes for awhile this weekend and i decided to go down the road to get some lunch. I had lower tire pressure and locked hubs, as soon as i got on the road i noticed steering didnt work. the steering wheel would turn about 3 turns very easily but the tires werent turning. it felt like the steering wheel wasnt even connected. I then unlocked the hubs and i could actualy turn now but not as good as when the tires have full pressure. Its weird because the steering wheel turns easily the tires just dont turn as sharp sometimes. BTW power steering fluid was full and nothing was loose or broken .
I need some suggestions i dont want to lose steering again.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Maybe don't drive it till u have some one look at it.
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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the frame is perfectly fine and it has an open front diff. 6 inch lift with stock 1 ton steering from diesel. there are no breaks in anything only thing i can imagine it being is the steering box. So....... nobody has had an issue like this before?
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I had a simular issue, but it was pretty easy to spot when I was out side of the truck. My center pin in my driver side spring had broke, instead of turning the wheels. This caused the stock push pull steering to just move the axel back and forth on the leaf spring.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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ok well i guess i am going to have to replicate the scenario and just trace out the problem with someone steering. Hopefully its not too bad
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6 inch lift and shitty push pull steering.....
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^ Ya and what would you recommend doing because i plan on 42's in the near future
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crossover steering
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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^ Ya and what would you recommend doing because i plan on 42's in the near future
Nothing, aparently there is no good fix for the steering of these lifted Chevy trucks, its impossible no one has figured out a different method of steering like crossover steering. It's a shame so many years people have been off roading and yet no one has been able to come up with a fix for the Chevy steering.
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Nothing, aparently there is no good fix for the steering of these lifted Chevy trucks, its impossible no one has figured out a different method of steering like crossover steering. It's a shame so many years people have been off roading and yet no one has been able to come up with a fix for the Chevy steering.
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popping like that could be a number of things...
spiders worn, drag link thats wore out, tie rod thats wore out, steering box to frame being cracked and pulling away from the frame, etc.
now narrow it down. pretty easy to pinpoint if you open your eyes and ears while someone turns the steering wheel...sorry if you're blind or deaf
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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ok so what i can tell it is the steering box that is making the popping noise. the knuckle has a spacer on it so there is better geometry but the end of the pitman arm is still too high so instead of being inline and pushing/pulling like it is supposed to it is lifting and lowering the driver side of the truck. So i need to either convert to crossover steering or fix the geometry of this system. BTW thanks for the sarcasm
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Dont waste your time "fixing" the push pull, that steering system is useless with trucks over 3inches of lift..... Buck up and start over with a good crossover steering setup, might as well rebuild your old steering box while your doing it. There is no cheap solution for your problem. Your gonna spend at least $$$ maybe $$$$ but it will be done you wont have to mess with it again besides maybe new rod ends every few years. You wont regret it!
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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off road design has everything you would need, he's a member and is real reasonable on the pocket..... Check out there site they have all the prices real straight forward. There are other venders that also sell quality xover kits.
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