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muddy ink · 07-13-2012, 12:30 PM

as of 7-12-12 the motor sets in on its own stands.. Direct weld in plates. Have pictures soon. Coming together pretty good..

Now whats left
__ drivelines
__ Need to buy and install a shifter
__ Need to get wiring harness and ecm clipped and flashed
__ Radiator needs to be installed
__ Battery relocated
__ New Brake Lines
__ Locate a starter and Alternator
__ Finishing welding in braces

muddy ink · 07-27-2012, 01:55 PM

If I go with a rear radiator. The last one I had problems with when you go up a steep incline the air in the top of the radiator would float to the motor. When this happened it would create a air pocket causing the motor temp gauge to seem as if it was running hot. The at that time I put a reservoir above the highest point to solve the problem. But just never seemed right after that. Also the muffler shop installed 2.5 inch exhaust tubing to the rear for the water flow. Is that to big? or do I need that size or water flow? I never upgraded the water pump and it seemed to flow just fine. but it took a whooping 8-9 gallon to antifreeze to top it off. could I go with a smaller diameter exhaust pipe or should I stay away from exhaust and go another route or just leave a front mounted radiator?

twistedjack · 07-27-2012, 02:50 PM

What headers are those?

87FSBrad · 07-27-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddy ink

FML!!!!!... I have heard by several people that these are in fact 70's.. According to the grapevine these are stronger than 60's.. But, im only going on word of mouth

Not 100% sure but if its funky big six lug its a 60, if its a 70 it will be 8 lug. If your front is indeed a 70 I think they are stronger too. bigger ring gear(10.5" vs. 9.75"), stock 35 spline outers(I think) and never seen a pic of a broken knuckle on those axles. But there is much less of them so it will be more unlikely to see them anyway.

g-wizz · 07-29-2012, 12:41 AM

so if that is a dana 70 which it could be, the knuckles are backwards. they are supposed to be behind the pumpkin. also it probably has weird shafts. tracta joint or something. some say they are strong some dont, either way its old tech, and when it breaks you prob wont be able to find parts. what chu going to do about the drums? and yes it has a bigger ring gear, carrier and what not.

that front axle likely came from a early 70s dodge truck, check if it has leaf spring perches and measure them to be sure.

muddy ink · 08-02-2012, 11:05 AM

Well.. The headers are for a 99-02 camaro ls. Im trying to build around them and having a time.. Just found out Monday that the shafts are going to be $761 for front and back.. $400 something for the front alone.

And there has been a lot of questions about the front and rear axles. Some ppl everyone that has mentioned them (in person) says they are 70's from a 67-72 dodge truck. You guys have gotten me worried about IF the axles break IM FUCKED!! kinda thoughts going thru my head.. No one has mentioned that they are anything other than a 70. And as far as the drum I suppose I'll have to live with them until I can do a 60 upgrade Which will be hopefully this winter. Im just trying to get it ready to ride for the rest of the year. Then ANOTHER tear down will be in progress. Then shortening the wheelbase and powder coating.

the_white_shadow · 08-02-2012, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddy ink

If I go with a rear radiator. The last one I had problems with when you go up a steep incline the air in the top of the radiator would float to the motor. When this happened it would create a air pocket causing the motor temp gauge to seem as if it was running hot. The at that time I put a reservoir above the highest point to solve the problem. But just never seemed right after that. Also the muffler shop installed 2.5 inch exhaust tubing to the rear for the water flow. Is that to big? or do I need that size or water flow? I never upgraded the water pump and it seemed to flow just fine. but it took a whooping 8-9 gallon to antifreeze to top it off. could I go with a smaller diameter exhaust pipe or should I stay away from exhaust and go another route or just leave a front mounted radiator?

I use 1.25" hose and tubing to route my radiator in the bed. You, as you know, ideally want the radiator cap as the highest point in the system. If its not, the way i bleed the system, is by installing a petcock in one of the upper hoses in the engine bay, that way you can crack it and get some of the air out. I also back up up a steep hill/mound/ditch/etc to ensure the radiator cap is the highest, then bleed the system. Gets all of the air out and no more overheating. Oh yeah, and find a taurus e-fan to run out back.

muddy ink · 08-06-2012, 11:38 AM

I'd love to have my radiator behind me. But I had a lot of trouble last time..

muddy ink · 08-07-2012, 10:41 AM

does anyone know of where that sells 15x? rims that'll fit these damn axles? I need at least a 10" wide preferably 12".

07-29-2012, 12:41 AM	#30 (permalink)
g-wizz Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Member # 91791 Location: san diego ca Posts: 1,167	so if that is a dana 70 which it could be, the knuckles are backwards. they are supposed to be behind the pumpkin. also it probably has weird shafts. tracta joint or something. some say they are strong some dont, either way its old tech, and when it breaks you prob wont be able to find parts. what chu going to do about the drums? and yes it has a bigger ring gear, carrier and what not. that front axle likely came from a early 70s dodge truck, check if it has leaf spring perches and measure them to be sure. __________________ 74k20 with 6bt nv4500, 203/205, d60, 14bolt, lots of metal and booger welds... one of these days. Last edited by g-wizz; 07-29-2012 at 12:43 AM.

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07-13-2012, 12:30 PM	#26 (permalink)
muddy ink Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142460 Location: Eastern Kentucky Posts: 72	as of 7-12-12 the motor sets in on its own stands.. Direct weld in plates. Have pictures soon. Coming together pretty good.. Now whats left __ drivelines __ Need to buy and install a shifter __ Need to get wiring harness and ecm clipped and flashed __ Radiator needs to be installed __ Battery relocated __ New Brake Lines __ Locate a starter and Alternator __ Finishing welding in braces

07-27-2012, 01:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
muddy ink Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142460 Location: Eastern Kentucky Posts: 72	If I go with a rear radiator. The last one I had problems with when you go up a steep incline the air in the top of the radiator would float to the motor. When this happened it would create a air pocket causing the motor temp gauge to seem as if it was running hot. The at that time I put a reservoir above the highest point to solve the problem. But just never seemed right after that. Also the muffler shop installed 2.5 inch exhaust tubing to the rear for the water flow. Is that to big? or do I need that size or water flow? I never upgraded the water pump and it seemed to flow just fine. but it took a whooping 8-9 gallon to antifreeze to top it off. could I go with a smaller diameter exhaust pipe or should I stay away from exhaust and go another route or just leave a front mounted radiator?

07-27-2012, 02:50 PM	#28 (permalink)
twistedjack semi pro hack Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27166 Location: Boise, Id Posts: 80	What headers are those?

08-02-2012, 11:05 AM	#31 (permalink)
muddy ink Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142460 Location: Eastern Kentucky Posts: 72	Well.. The headers are for a 99-02 camaro ls. Im trying to build around them and having a time.. Just found out Monday that the shafts are going to be $761 for front and back.. $400 something for the front alone. And there has been a lot of questions about the front and rear axles. Some ppl everyone that has mentioned them (in person) says they are 70's from a 67-72 dodge truck. You guys have gotten me worried about IF the axles break IM FUCKED!! kinda thoughts going thru my head.. No one has mentioned that they are anything other than a 70. And as far as the drum I suppose I'll have to live with them until I can do a 60 upgrade Which will be hopefully this winter. Im just trying to get it ready to ride for the rest of the year. Then ANOTHER tear down will be in progress. Then shortening the wheelbase and powder coating.

08-06-2012, 11:38 AM	#33 (permalink)
muddy ink Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142460 Location: Eastern Kentucky Posts: 72	I'd love to have my radiator behind me. But I had a lot of trouble last time..

08-07-2012, 10:41 AM	#34 (permalink)
muddy ink Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142460 Location: Eastern Kentucky Posts: 72	does anyone know of where that sells 15x? rims that'll fit these damn axles? I need at least a 10" wide preferably 12".