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Jason P · 03-05-2003, 09:16 PM

I was wondering if I should use the eaton one ton rear I have or find a 14 bolt. I like the drop out third member on the eaton but there are not a lot of lockers and gear choices for it. Also is the eaton as strong as the 14 bolt. The eaton is also a full floater. Also I already did a search and didn't come up with much of anything.

Thanks Jason

KWTMECH · 03-05-2003, 09:39 PM

The eaton I believe has a 12'' ring gear and they are very strong but as you found out the gear selection is not all that great. The 14 bolt can go as deep as 5.13s but the only choice for a locker is a detroit unless you are going to weld. If you check just the inner pinion bearing for the eaton can run over 100. The 14 bolts are more readily available and a lot cheaper just have to stick with full width for now. I'm trying to work a deal with Tractech to get them to offer 35 spline side gears for the detroit, if they go for it then we can narrow to what ever we want!

Bigburlynakedguy · 03-05-2003, 10:02 PM

I have an eaton in my jeep. There are 3.90's, 4.10's, 4.56's and 5.13's for them. What more do you need? There are detrois for them or you can weld it. What more do you need? Junkyards are packed with eatons and parts. The c&c hubs fit the eaton. I like the coolness factor of the giant 3rd member too.

Jason P · 03-05-2003, 10:09 PM

I was told that the eaton has better ground clearance than the 14 bolt. Is that true or was the person that told me full of it.

Bigburlynakedguy · 03-05-2003, 10:13 PM

My buddy trimmed his 14 bolt and it is higher than mine. Not sure about stock. I have 38's and it hasn't been a problem.

u2slow · 03-05-2003, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by KWTMECH
The eaton I believe has a 12'' ring gear

Nope. 10-1/8" on the H054 and H072 axles (5400 and 7200lb respectively). 4.10, 4.57, 4.88, and 5.12 ratios. 4.10 is usually most desirable. 4.88 is the toughest to find. 4.56 is most common. I think the 3.90 set is a newer invention - for economy's sake. Detroit locker has been discontinued, although they were a factory option in the day.

The 12" ring gear was the H100 (10,000lb). Commonly known for its 6.17 ratio. Ended up in some heavy 1-tons, but mosty 2.5 ton vehicles - even some old 6x6's.

sw99 · 03-06-2003, 12:28 PM

I guess i'm odd man out! I saw go with the 14 bolt.....it cheap..........

SCOTTS_4X · 03-06-2003, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lincolnloc
I guess i'm man, I'm out!

fixed that for ya!

-Scott

sw99 · 03-07-2003, 12:37 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SCOTTS_4X

I'll fix your zipper for ya!, you know i'm !!!!!

-Scott [/QUOTE:]

Ditto

03-05-2003, 09:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jason P Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17571 Location: White Salmon Posts: 22	Eaton or 14blt I was wondering if I should use the eaton one ton rear I have or find a 14 bolt. I like the drop out third member on the eaton but there are not a lot of lockers and gear choices for it. Also is the eaton as strong as the 14 bolt. The eaton is also a full floater. Also I already did a search and didn't come up with much of anything. Thanks Jason __________________ When in doubt punch it!!!

03-05-2003, 10:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jason P Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17571 Location: White Salmon Posts: 22	I was told that the eaton has better ground clearance than the 14 bolt. Is that true or was the person that told me full of it. __________________ When in doubt punch it!!!

03-07-2003, 12:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
sw99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15049 Location: COLORADO Posts: 1,702	[QUOTE]Originally posted by SCOTTS_4X I'll fix your zipper for ya!, you know i'm !!!!! -Scott [/QUOTE:] Ditto __________________ 1986 K30

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03-05-2003, 09:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
KWTMECH Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13786 Location: moved 7 miles to colfax, ca. Posts: 4,224	The eaton I believe has a 12'' ring gear and they are very strong but as you found out the gear selection is not all that great. The 14 bolt can go as deep as 5.13s but the only choice for a locker is a detroit unless you are going to weld. If you check just the inner pinion bearing for the eaton can run over 100. The 14 bolts are more readily available and a lot cheaper just have to stick with full width for now. I'm trying to work a deal with Tractech to get them to offer 35 spline side gears for the detroit, if they go for it then we can narrow to what ever we want!

03-05-2003, 10:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bigburlynakedguy Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11961 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 2,665	I have an eaton in my jeep. There are 3.90's, 4.10's, 4.56's and 5.13's for them. What more do you need? There are detrois for them or you can weld it. What more do you need? Junkyards are packed with eatons and parts. The c&c hubs fit the eaton. I like the coolness factor of the giant 3rd member too.

03-05-2003, 10:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bigburlynakedguy Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11961 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 2,665	My buddy trimmed his 14 bolt and it is higher than mine. Not sure about stock. I have 38's and it hasn't been a problem.

03-06-2003, 12:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
sw99 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15049 Location: COLORADO Posts: 1,702	I guess i'm odd man out! I saw go with the 14 bolt.....it cheap..........