14B hub swap for increased WMS to WMS? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

JoeMama · 11-06-2003, 08:07 AM

Hey folks... I'm looking to increase the WMS to WMS on my 14B. I've heard a couple people looking into mounting different hubs on the 14B spindles to accomplish this. Is this a pipe dream, or has someone done this before?

3vze · 11-06-2003, 02:55 PM

Yo, JoeMama. What kind of 14B do you have ? is it SRW, DRW C&C ?
I have a SRW that im looking for some DRW hubs to bring it from 68 WMS down to 63 WMS

Shaker · 11-07-2003, 09:06 AM

You can do this but where the "flange" is welded to the axle where the backing plate is will be in the wrong location. If you plan on running disc brakes also then it won't be a 'major' problem....

azblazor · 11-07-2003, 02:26 PM

I've been looking at this myself. It seems that putting the C&C dually 14FF hubs on actually narrows the WMS to WMS.

No one seems to have actually seen a verifiable Pickup bed dually 14 FF (I just had a chevy only dismantler here in Phoenix that they don't exist). Every one I have seen has actualy been a Dana 70.

I do happen to own (2) chevy crewcab dually pickups at the present time, a 1974 2WD and a 1984 4WD - they are both Dana 70's. The 2wd dana 70 is going under a trail truck to run hummer rims on, along with D60 front dually hubs for correct WMS to WMS for hummer rims on the front.

I have "heard" that you can put rear Dana 60 dually hubs on a 14FF for a wider WMS to WMS, I have never seen a dually dana 60 rear before.

I think "tonyp" on ck5 is having some 14FF spacers made up special that may be a reasonably priced alternative to aftermarket spacers.

mj · 11-08-2003, 12:22 PM

I dont think it would be too $ prohibitive to have a custom hub made

not much to them

then you get the Bling of billet hubs

Oxblood · 11-09-2003, 11:19 AM

are you trying to say that a single rear dual rear wheel 14 bolt doesn't exist? maybe I didn't reead that right, i am still drunk and right now.

azblazor · 11-09-2003, 12:32 PM

What I am saying is that Chevy Pickup bed duallies are always Dana 70's, that I have seen, and that a guy who dismantles chevy trucks for a living (last 16 years) has seen. There are a lot of 14FF dualies but they are always on C&C's or some application with a NARROWer type WMS to WMS application.

Just putting dually 14FF hubs on a normal SRW 14 FF actually narrows the WMS to WMS, it does not make it wider.

speedo · 11-11-2003, 10:25 AM

I can confirm for you that the pick-up bed dually 14bolts do exist.
I know where one is sitting. I think that it is a '73 but I'm not sure
on the year. Chevy also used some 60 dually rear ends on vans,
I thought that I'd scored a 70 once but it turned out to be a
60 dually, before that I didn't think they made 'em that way.

Gus

11-06-2003, 08:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
JoeMama Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17336 Location: Chitown Posts: 94	14B hub swap for increased WMS to WMS? Hey folks... I'm looking to increase the WMS to WMS on my 14B. I've heard a couple people looking into mounting different hubs on the 14B spindles to accomplish this. Is this a pipe dream, or has someone done this before? __________________ [i][b]CK5 truck of the month, Nov '03[/i][/b] [url=http://64.53.225.17/images/truck/]MY WEBSITE[/url] 350EFI/400/203/205/D60/D70/4.10s/LOCKED/42" TSLs/CAGED

11-07-2003, 09:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Shaker Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3694 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Posts: 3,584	You can do this but where the "flange" is welded to the axle where the backing plate is will be in the wrong location. If you plan on running disc brakes also then it won't be a 'major' problem.... __________________ Need Steering? www.shakerbuilt.com Too Many Projects not enough Time...

11-07-2003, 02:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
azblazor Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5139 Location: Phoenix, AZ. area Posts: 112	I've been looking at this myself. It seems that putting the C&C dually 14FF hubs on actually narrows the WMS to WMS. No one seems to have actually seen a verifiable Pickup bed dually 14 FF (I just had a chevy only dismantler here in Phoenix that they don't exist). Every one I have seen has actualy been a Dana 70. I do happen to own (2) chevy crewcab dually pickups at the present time, a 1974 2WD and a 1984 4WD - they are both Dana 70's. The 2wd dana 70 is going under a trail truck to run hummer rims on, along with D60 front dually hubs for correct WMS to WMS for hummer rims on the front. I have "heard" that you can put rear Dana 60 dually hubs on a 14FF for a wider WMS to WMS, I have never seen a dually dana 60 rear before. I think "tonyp" on ck5 is having some 14FF spacers made up special that may be a reasonably priced alternative to aftermarket spacers. __________________ Mark 59 CJ5, 86 K30

11-09-2003, 11:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Oxblood Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11405 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 256	are you trying to say that a single rear dual rear wheel 14 bolt doesn't exist? maybe I didn't reead that right, i am still drunk and right now. __________________ 99' ZR2 Blazer, SFA 79' F250 Dana 44 with chevy outers, 4.88's detroit, 14 bolt FF, 4.88's, detroit, 3.5" YJ springs in front, customs in rear, 36" TSL's

11-09-2003, 12:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
azblazor Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5139 Location: Phoenix, AZ. area Posts: 112	What I am saying is that Chevy Pickup bed duallies are always Dana 70's, that I have seen, and that a guy who dismantles chevy trucks for a living (last 16 years) has seen. There are a lot of 14FF dualies but they are always on C&C's or some application with a NARROWer type WMS to WMS application. Just putting dually 14FF hubs on a normal SRW 14 FF actually narrows the WMS to WMS, it does not make it wider. __________________ Mark 59 CJ5, 86 K30

11-06-2003, 02:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
3vze Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13561 Location: Emerald city Posts: 648	Yo, JoeMama. What kind of 14B do you have ? is it SRW, DRW C&C ? I have a SRW that im looking for some DRW hubs to bring it from 68 WMS down to 63 WMS

11-08-2003, 12:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	I dont think it would be too $ prohibitive to have a custom hub made not much to them then you get the Bling of billet hubs

11-11-2003, 10:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
speedo Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23262 Location: Talkeetna, Alaska Posts: 938	14 bolt pick-up bed dually axles I can confirm for you that the pick-up bed dually 14bolts do exist. I know where one is sitting. I think that it is a '73 but I'm not sure on the year. Chevy also used some 60 dually rear ends on vans, I thought that I'd scored a 70 once but it turned out to be a 60 dually, before that I didn't think they made 'em that way. Gus

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