Falkor - 2001 Crew Cab 2500HD - Page 6 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > Chevy
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-05-2017, 03:32 PM   #126 (permalink)
Rock God
 
flatblack83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Member # 121277
Posts: 1,214
At least you guys didn't do it twice, mine was done the 1st time and i hated it. I had about 3k in it then and the only thing reused was the crossover steering. Didn't even get 500.00 selling all that crap. Even the hydro steering was done twice. Talk about a huge waste of money, i'm totally 100% glad tho that its redone with 4 link and coilovers.
__________________
...1983 chevy stepside
358, propane, d60,14b 456s, 465/205,
53 inch alcans, diy4x shackle flip 52s.
39-15-15 boggers

...2003 chevy 2500hd
6.0/4l80e/np241/d60/14b/513s
4link, king coilovers, radflo bumps, bds leafs
37/12.50/16.5 mtr's
flatblack83 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-05-2017, 03:52 PM   #127 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Member # 125784
Location: Texas
Posts: 61
Anyone else planning to run the 273 case? That was my initial plan but I don't even know if that giant thing will fit.
Nolen is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 05-05-2017, 04:02 PM   #128 (permalink)
Rock God
 
flatblack83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Member # 121277
Posts: 1,214
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nolen View Post
Anyone else planning to run the 273 case? That was my initial plan but I don't even know if that giant thing will fit.

Since you have the fancy skid plate cross member deal why not just do the sye in the current t-case. Go thru it while its apart and bolt it back in.
__________________
...1983 chevy stepside
358, propane, d60,14b 456s, 465/205,
53 inch alcans, diy4x shackle flip 52s.
39-15-15 boggers

...2003 chevy 2500hd
6.0/4l80e/np241/d60/14b/513s
4link, king coilovers, radflo bumps, bds leafs
37/12.50/16.5 mtr's
flatblack83 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-05-2017, 08:05 PM   #129 (permalink)
E-Locker or Bust!
 
DMANbluesfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Member # 163019
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Posts: 2,988
SYE in a 261/3 is not a good idea, IMO. Running it requires that you run a 1310 u-joint due to clearance issues. You'd be better off just leaving the slip yoke front output (I think it's an S44 which is around a 1330 size) like Tim did.

On a gas truck, I wouldn't hesitate to swap an NP241 in, but that becomes difficult behind an Allison - even if I did feel comfortable running it behind a torquey diesel.
__________________
2001 Z71 Silverado, Ext. Cab, 5.3L V8 -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14B FF w/ Grizzly Locker, KP Dana 60 HP, 2pc 1410 Rear Driveline, Anti-Wrap Bar
NP241, 40" MTRs, Rock Sliders, Hydro Assist (tapped Borgeson box)
DMANbluesfreak is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-05-2017, 11:19 PM   #130 (permalink)
Forever being built
 
wahlstrom1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Member # 94308
Location: Sherwood Park Alberta
Posts: 922
According to NWF, you can run a 1350 joint (flange or yoke) on a 261 with a little shifter finessing. On a 263 you're right though, stuck with the 1310.
wahlstrom1 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-06-2017, 07:41 PM   #131 (permalink)
E-Locker or Bust!
 
DMANbluesfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Member # 163019
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Posts: 2,988
Quote:
Originally Posted by wahlstrom1 View Post
According to NWF, you can run a 1350 joint (flange or yoke) on a 261 with a little shifter finessing. On a 263 you're right though, stuck with the 1310.
Good point!
__________________
2001 Z71 Silverado, Ext. Cab, 5.3L V8 -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14B FF w/ Grizzly Locker, KP Dana 60 HP, 2pc 1410 Rear Driveline, Anti-Wrap Bar
NP241, 40" MTRs, Rock Sliders, Hydro Assist (tapped Borgeson box)
DMANbluesfreak is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-08-2017, 06:17 AM   #132 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 47273
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 622
Two weeks down and another productive weekend in the books, I was able to pull it out and get a good look at it from a distance and wow, I am super stoked!
The Pro Comp 40’s must be a lot bigger than the Toyo’s that Tim is running or the back space on my wheels is different because the tire hits the radius before it gets to full lock, not a lot but it still hits.
I got a tracking number for my front coil overs too last week, so the shocks should be here Tuesday.
I also ordered some 2.5” lift blocks for the rear and stuffed those in this weekend so I can drive it. I was planning to tear into the rear right away but camping season is here and honestly, I am pretty burnt out. I have been going pretty hard in the shop for the last 6 months, I put a 6.0L in a 80 series Land Cruiser, did the front link suspension on my buddies Toyota and now Falkor, I think it’s time to take a break for a few months and go enjoy this bad boy! As usual all the little things like break lines ABS sensors bleeding everything took longer than I thought but looks like everything held and I think it time to party!
I pulled some overall measurements to compare where the truck sits compared to my Yukon that was on 37’s and right now the truck sits about ½” lower than the Yukon!
One thought I need your guys’ opinion on, the ram sticks out pretty far in front and I am concerned that I may hit it on something. Since that part of the tie rod is the permanent part I was thinking about taking some 3/16” plate and rolling around on the bottom and welding it to the tie rod so it would protect the ram a little, it seems it would also strengthen the tie rod itself. Thoughts?



















__________________
If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it again?
krazytoy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-08-2017, 07:25 AM   #133 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
rockmup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16699
Location: Greenwell Springs La.
Posts: 6,361
Looks great, good job man. I wouldn't worry about the ram at all.
rockmup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-08-2017, 07:51 AM   #134 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Member # 42940
Location: Allen, TX
Posts: 128
O.O looks very nice!
TeXJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-08-2017, 01:36 PM   #135 (permalink)
E-Locker or Bust!
 
DMANbluesfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Member # 163019
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Posts: 2,988
Man that looks good.

Ruffstuff actually has a piece that’s designed for protecting/strengthening tie rods. Just make sure you stitch weld it to avoid warping it. It’s just a press-braked piece of 3/16 or 1/4 at like a 30° angle.

Obviously you don’t want to be using the tie rod to slide the truck up onto obstacles, but it would certainly help.

With that said, my 1.5” tube tie rod has been into different rocks enough that it’s gouged pretty deep into the steel in a few places. I do realign the truck after wheeling trips, but have never noticed it be super far out of alignment so that tells me it’s not bending much. Also, keep in mind that mine’s hollow since it’s tubing and I believe the ford tie rod is solid, yes? You may not need to strengthen it.
__________________
2001 Z71 Silverado, Ext. Cab, 5.3L V8 -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14B FF w/ Grizzly Locker, KP Dana 60 HP, 2pc 1410 Rear Driveline, Anti-Wrap Bar
NP241, 40" MTRs, Rock Sliders, Hydro Assist (tapped Borgeson box)
DMANbluesfreak is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-09-2017, 11:00 AM   #136 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Toyoland66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Member # 35163
Location: Colorado
Posts: 931
Do you think this could work with SD coils in the stock position on the axle or is there not enough frame clearance? Its hard to tell from the perspective.

Maybe I missed it, are you running adapter wheel spacers on the rear?
__________________
1979 FJ40

Last edited by Toyoland66; 05-09-2017 at 11:09 AM.
Toyoland66 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-10-2017, 05:57 AM   #137 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 47273
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyoland66 View Post
Do you think this could work with SD coils in the stock position on the axle or is there not enough frame clearance? Its hard to tell from the perspective.

Maybe I missed it, are you running adapter wheel spacers on the rear?
It "may" be possible, seems I remember Tim saying that he originally tried to design it that way but with the SD coils and such the truck sat too tall.

Yes, I am running 1.5" spacers/adapters on the back.
__________________
If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it again?
krazytoy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-10-2017, 06:39 AM   #138 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Member # 125784
Location: Texas
Posts: 61
What's the offset on the wheels you are using?
Nolen is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-11-2017, 06:52 AM   #139 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 47273
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nolen View Post
What's the offset on the wheels you are using?
The wheels are 17x8.5 with 4.79 backspacing or a +01 offset.
__________________
If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it again?
krazytoy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-18-2017, 08:22 PM   #140 (permalink)
Forever being built
 
wahlstrom1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Member # 94308
Location: Sherwood Park Alberta
Posts: 922
So..... how's it drive?
__________________
Quote:
I can be weapons grade stupid sometimes.
wahlstrom1 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-19-2017, 05:53 AM   #141 (permalink)
Wheeler
 
92_Chevy_1500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Member # 202961
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by wahlstrom1 View Post
So..... how's it drive?
Looking at the "shocks" that are in there...

I'd say it might be a little stiff in the front.
92_Chevy_1500 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-19-2017, 08:07 AM   #142 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Member # 187202
Posts: 87
You may have covered this already but what size and how long is the tube you used for the upper link arms? And where did you order the tie-rod clamp (and part number?) for the hydraulic cylinder?
BigLBZPower08 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 08:27 AM   #143 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 47273
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 622
Quote:
Originally Posted by wahlstrom1 View Post
So..... how's it drive?
It is stiff, Accutune is sending me 300# springs. Other than that it drives amazing! The PSC steering is badass and the brakes are amazing, it will lock up the 40's no problem!

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLBZPower08 View Post
You may have covered this already but what size and how long is the tube you used for the upper link arms? And where did you order the tie-rod clamp (and part number?) for the hydraulic cylinder?
The tube is 3" long. I ordered the clamp from PSC with the rest of the steering FYI the O.D. of the tie rod is 1.75".

The front drive shaft has been kicking my ass, first I broke the ear off the yolk trying to get the ujoint out so I had to get one from LKQ, now the front shaft is 2.5" too short so it doesn't have enough spline engagement and it wobbles in the t-case so now I have to get it lengthened. I also ordered 5.38 gears for it because the 4.10's weren't going to cut it. The truck is currently torn down and I am waiting for the new gears to show up. Still hoping to make a big camping trip this weekend, we'll see how this week goes...

Here yo can see how I mounted the PS reservoir.


I pulled the plastic off the side of the truck and gave it a good wet sand and polish, looks good now.


Time for some gears!


__________________
If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it again?
krazytoy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 09:47 AM   #144 (permalink)
Forever being built
 
wahlstrom1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Member # 94308
Location: Sherwood Park Alberta
Posts: 922
Right on, the diesel/Allison/winchbumper combo probably makes a good bit of difference in the ride.

I knew the 4.10's wouldn't be enough, my 6.0 felt sluggish just going from 245's to 285's. Looks great sitting low on 40's though!
wahlstrom1 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 01:56 PM   #145 (permalink)
Rock God
 
flatblack83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Member # 121277
Posts: 1,214
I have now 350 springs on mine, could be a little softer. I think the 300 rate will be perfect. 513s with 37s works great on my hd, what are you going with..? Did u make that psc reservoir mount..?
__________________
...1983 chevy stepside
358, propane, d60,14b 456s, 465/205,
53 inch alcans, diy4x shackle flip 52s.
39-15-15 boggers

...2003 chevy 2500hd
6.0/4l80e/np241/d60/14b/513s
4link, king coilovers, radflo bumps, bds leafs
37/12.50/16.5 mtr's
flatblack83 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 03:05 PM   #146 (permalink)
Biding my time...
 
whitneyj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Member # 135947
Location: Oshkosh, WI
Posts: 1,322
Quote:
Originally Posted by krazytoy View Post
Time for some gears!


You're a brave man regearing with the axles installed
__________________
Place banana in your ear.
Observe that there are no alligators around.
Conclude bananas placed in ears keep alligators away.
whitneyj is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old Yesterday, 06:06 AM   #147 (permalink)
E-Locker or Bust!
 
DMANbluesfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Member # 163019
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Posts: 2,988
14b wouldn't be (isn't) too bad. The Dana 60 I'd always pull to regear.
__________________
2001 Z71 Silverado, Ext. Cab, 5.3L V8 -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14B FF w/ Grizzly Locker, KP Dana 60 HP, 2pc 1410 Rear Driveline, Anti-Wrap Bar
NP241, 40" MTRs, Rock Sliders, Hydro Assist (tapped Borgeson box)
DMANbluesfreak is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old Yesterday, 06:35 AM   #148 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member # 47273
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 622
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatblack83 View Post
I have now 350 springs on mine, could be a little softer. I think the 300 rate will be perfect. 513s with 37s works great on my hd, what are you going with..? Did u make that psc reservoir mount..?
I got 5.38's. The PSC mount came in the mounts from Tim, it is made for his Duramax and I just modified the bracket to fit then drilled and tapped the alternator bracket.

Quote:
Originally Posted by whitneyj View Post
You're a brave man regearing with the axles installed
Meh, I've done hundreds of them this way. I need the exercise...
__________________
If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it again?
krazytoy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old Yesterday, 01:21 PM   #149 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Member # 289786
Posts: 36
Nice progress!

Is your plan just to get it wheel-able? Or are you planning on back halfing it soon as well?

Quote:
Originally Posted by krazytoy View Post
The Pro Comp 40’s must be a lot bigger than the Toyo’s that Tim is running or the back space on my wheels is different because the tire hits the radius before it gets to full lock, not a lot but it still hits.
I keep reading how the 40" Procomps are bigger than expected. I went back and forth on Procomps or Trail Grapplers, settled on the Grapplers. Haven't ordered them yet, something psychological about wanting to get the biggest diameter tire for the price. Looking around online at spec sheets, Procomps measure 39.8, while the Trail Grapplers measure 39.7. Grapplers are actually cheaper than Procomps now.

Last edited by Grohe; Yesterday at 01:23 PM.
Grohe is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old Yesterday, 01:54 PM   #150 (permalink)
E-Locker or Bust!
 
DMANbluesfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Member # 163019
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Posts: 2,988
Make sure you keep an eye on measured rim widths as that can affect the tire size. If you run the tire on a wheel wider than it was measured on, it will measure out shorter.
__________________
2001 Z71 Silverado, Ext. Cab, 5.3L V8 -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14B FF w/ Grizzly Locker, KP Dana 60 HP, 2pc 1410 Rear Driveline, Anti-Wrap Bar
NP241, 40" MTRs, Rock Sliders, Hydro Assist (tapped Borgeson box)
DMANbluesfreak is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.