Best 4" lift for a '73-87 3/4t 4wd? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Crank · 10-21-2005, 09:53 AM

Hey, I'm fixin to go pick up a truck a farmer gave me a week or so ago. Its a mid to late seventies Chev, 3/4t 4wd 350/sm465/205. It needs a body and a good goin' thru but I was wondering who made the best lift kit for that year and model truck. I need the rear springs to be pretty stiff and heavy duty I might put a flatbed on it and use it for towing. Cheap gets points too, or would I be better just have someone build me a set of custom rear springs cuz of the heavy duty I need and just buy the front springs and pitman arm and stuff? Any help would be appreciated.. Thanks
Brandon

P.S. I need a set of front spring hangers off the rear axle??? help.

Snowbird13 · 10-21-2005, 10:58 AM

I would do a shackle flip in the rear. not sure of the best front though.

87GMCsierra · 10-21-2005, 11:42 AM

i would run a DIY4x shackle flip in the rear and put some tuff country 4" springs up front and it will flex hella good for ya

mudslinger99 · 10-21-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Crank

I need the rear springs to be pretty stiff and heavy duty I might put a flatbed on it and use it for towing. Cheap gets points too

I guess you other fellows missed this fact.. A shackle flip is not the way to go for a heavy duty truck that will be towing a lot of weight.. Tuff Country springs are ment fore more flex not a heavy load.. So the correct answer is Rough Country because they have more spring rate for what he wants.. Also that lift kit will be about the cheapest.. The complete kit is about $300 bucks and even comes with shocks..

mj · 10-22-2005, 10:22 AM

I would still flip the shackles and run a 52" front spring,
run a couple of swaybars
the stockfront bar modified to accept endlinks something like the ORD disconnect kit
the rear I would shop the wreckers for a ford or dodge rear bar and customize to fit.

if the spring rate was too low I would add a supplemental airbag kit.
there is no reason to run around with excessive spring rates these days.
excessive spring rate pounds the entire rig plus beats the hell outa the driver.

mudslinger99 · 10-22-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mj

excessive spring rate pounds the entire rig plus beats the hell outa the driver.

If you don't like the ride of a truck then go buy a car

rcurrier44 · 10-22-2005, 11:09 AM

Are you going to wheel this truck or not??? This is an extreme rockcrawling site you know. If you just want a tow rig then there are areas on here for that...or other websights.

Personaly I woulden't lift a tow rig....its just stupid...

But if you must I would do a shackle flip...and reinforce the shackle. Then add a set of airbags in the rear. For the front I probubly woulden't do 52"ers since they are so soft. I would run a bolt on kit and the stock swaybar....

mj · 10-22-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mudslinger99

If you don't like the ride of a truck then go buy a car

real trucks have run air suspension for a few decades now. they still make rubber block suspension for those that refuse to learn

Crank · 10-24-2005, 08:21 AM

I do realize this is an extreme rockcrawler site, but being this is KY i live in and northern KY at that, I dont see many rocks beyond what I find in the pasture or down in the mountains where my mom lives... In eastern KY. I want this truck to be a capable tow rig, as well as something I can hit the mud with or if I find one of those slippery rocks I can assend them as well. I think fullsize rigs arent meant for rocks, that's why they built jeeps and toys... But for the time being, I'll stick with my '98 DD, and my old shitty farm truck.. I appreciate y'alls input
Brandon

GMCTruxrule · 10-25-2005, 08:20 PM

I am sure most of you saw the post where that Mudterrain guy wanted to lift his 86 S-10 Blazer with a homemade lift blocks and torsion bar cranking.
I think the 2x4 idea works for lift. Like he said, 36" of 2x4s to clear 49" tires.

Crank · 10-25-2005, 10:44 PM

Hey look ya ass. I'm asking a serious question. I know blocks fuckin suck and yea, I read that post. I probably wont go over 35" tires. I figure this is the Chevy section and no I'm not gonna go crawl it, but being the truck is a Chevy and this is a chevy section... kinda seems to go together the best.. wouldn't it seem. Man, for being new to this site(posting anyways) I see alot of people that aint here to help for shit... I mean. how constructive was your post, didn't help with one single fucking question I asked... Imagine if everyone did that everytime you posted something ASSHOLE

Brandon

mudslinger99 · 10-25-2005, 10:58 PM

lagrange151 · 10-25-2005, 11:04 PM

for 35" just cut the fenders, they'll fit

cucvzuz · 10-26-2005, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crank

I think fullsize rigs arent meant for rocks, that's why they built jeeps and toys... But for the time being, I'll stick with my '98 DD, and my old shitty farm truck.. I appreciate y'alls input
Brandon

yall he has set it off let the ass kicking comence.

GMCTruxrule · 10-26-2005, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crank

Hey look ya ass. I'm asking a serious question. I know blocks fuckin suck and yea, I read that post. I probably wont go over 35" tires. I figure this is the Chevy section and no I'm not gonna go crawl it, but being the truck is a Chevy and this is a chevy section... kinda seems to go together the best.. wouldn't it seem. Man, for being new to this site(posting anyways) I see alot of people that aint here to help for shit... I mean. how constructive was your post, didn't help with one single fucking question I asked... Imagine if everyone did that everytime you posted something ASSHOLE

Brandon

Holy Shit man! Settle down, I was trying to "lighten the mood" as it were.
Just crackin a joke, cause I still think that post was funnier than shit.
Anyway, don't leave your bowl of wheaties under the urinal anymore, that way they won't get pissed in.

Crank · 10-26-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crank

I think fullsize rigs arent meant for rocks, that's why they built jeeps and toys

Well I come here and ask a serious honest question, and all I get is hacked on by people... Why try to lighten the mood when I would seriously love to hear some feedback from some people... Would I be better to get the shackle flip kit, then have my springs stiffened up add some more leafs to them to get them back to around the capacity I need. These are the things running around in my head. I also need a set of front spring hangers for the rear springs if anyone has a spare set laying around
Brandon

mudslinger99 · 10-26-2005, 10:49 PM

I gave you good advise on what will be the best set up to handle the task you described and be the cheapest way to go..

Crank · 10-26-2005, 11:18 PM

I know, I read that and looked up the prices on those parts, seems like what I want to do... I'm still not sure tho, will a lift spring have a good enough rate to say, pull a car trailer? I mean, as long as it is stiff it should be pretty good, but if it's a lift spring, then just squats it aint gonna do me nary any good. I guess hence you recommending the rough country. Thanks again guys
Brandon

mudslinger99 · 10-26-2005, 11:35 PM

If you don't go over a 6 inch lift then towing with it will be fine.. Granted a lifted truck is not the best for towing but people have been doing it for years with no problem.. I have towed car trailers, boats, and plenty of other stuff with no issues..

The Rough Country springs have about the heaviest spring rate unless you get some custom made which = $$.. You can always get helper springs to go along with them if you felt they weren't enough but I don't think you will.. Or air bags like the others mentioned but you said cheap and IMO you don't need them..

10-21-2005, 09:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Crank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40754 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 115	Best 4" lift for a '73-87 3/4t 4wd? Hey, I'm fixin to go pick up a truck a farmer gave me a week or so ago. Its a mid to late seventies Chev, 3/4t 4wd 350/sm465/205. It needs a body and a good goin' thru but I was wondering who made the best lift kit for that year and model truck. I need the rear springs to be pretty stiff and heavy duty I might put a flatbed on it and use it for towing. Cheap gets points too, or would I be better just have someone build me a set of custom rear springs cuz of the heavy duty I need and just buy the front springs and pitman arm and stuff? Any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Brandon P.S. I need a set of front spring hangers off the rear axle??? help.

10-21-2005, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
87GMCsierra Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49663 Location: Mokena,IL Posts: 206	i would run a DIY4x shackle flip in the rear and put some tuff country 4" springs up front and it will flex hella good for ya __________________ 87 GMC 350tbi 465/twin sticked 205 H.A.D. front shaft one tons locked stock 52's and 56's 39.5 tsls

10-22-2005, 11:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
rcurrier44 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15404 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 3,078	Are you going to wheel this truck or not??? This is an extreme rockcrawling site you know. If you just want a tow rig then there are areas on here for that...or other websights. Personaly I woulden't lift a tow rig....its just stupid... But if you must I would do a shackle flip...and reinforce the shackle. Then add a set of airbags in the rear. For the front I probubly woulden't do 52"ers since they are so soft. I would run a bolt on kit and the stock swaybar.... __________________ Life begins where the pavement ends!

10-25-2005, 08:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
GMCTruxrule Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51243 Location: Tropical Paradise Posts: 3,410	Cheap mans lift I am sure most of you saw the post where that Mudterrain guy wanted to lift his 86 S-10 Blazer with a homemade lift blocks and torsion bar cranking. I think the 2x4 idea works for lift. Like he said, 36" of 2x4s to clear 49" tires. __________________ [COLOR="Lime"][B]1999 Chevy K3500, 5.7/4L80E/14FF/stock/stock/stock[/B][/COLOR]

10-25-2005, 10:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
mudslinger99 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37519 Location: here Posts: 1,263	__________________ [COLOR="Black"]..............[/COLOR]/´¯/) [COLOR="Black"]............[/COLOR],/¯../ [COLOR="Black"]...........[/COLOR]/..../ [COLOR="Black"].....[/COLOR]/´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ [COLOR="Black"]..[/COLOR]/'/.../..../......./¨¯\ [COLOR="Black"].[/COLOR]('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') [COLOR="Black"]....[/COLOR]\.................'...../ [COLOR="Black"]......[/COLOR]''...\.......... _.·´ [COLOR="Black"].......[/COLOR]\..............( [COLOR="Black"].........[/COLOR]\.............\

10-21-2005, 10:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
Snowbird13 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44136 Location: If you know, tell me. Posts: 1,400	I would do a shackle flip in the rear. not sure of the best front though.

10-22-2005, 10:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	I would still flip the shackles and run a 52" front spring, run a couple of swaybars the stockfront bar modified to accept endlinks something like the ORD disconnect kit the rear I would shop the wreckers for a ford or dodge rear bar and customize to fit. if the spring rate was too low I would add a supplemental airbag kit. there is no reason to run around with excessive spring rates these days. excessive spring rate pounds the entire rig plus beats the hell outa the driver.

10-24-2005, 08:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
Crank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40754 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 115	I do realize this is an extreme rockcrawler site, but being this is KY i live in and northern KY at that, I dont see many rocks beyond what I find in the pasture or down in the mountains where my mom lives... In eastern KY. I want this truck to be a capable tow rig, as well as something I can hit the mud with or if I find one of those slippery rocks I can assend them as well. I think fullsize rigs arent meant for rocks, that's why they built jeeps and toys... But for the time being, I'll stick with my '98 DD, and my old shitty farm truck.. I appreciate y'alls input Brandon

10-25-2005, 10:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
Crank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40754 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 115	Hey look ya ass. I'm asking a serious question. I know blocks fuckin suck and yea, I read that post. I probably wont go over 35" tires. I figure this is the Chevy section and no I'm not gonna go crawl it, but being the truck is a Chevy and this is a chevy section... kinda seems to go together the best.. wouldn't it seem. Man, for being new to this site(posting anyways) I see alot of people that aint here to help for shit... I mean. how constructive was your post, didn't help with one single fucking question I asked... Imagine if everyone did that everytime you posted something ASSHOLE Brandon

10-25-2005, 11:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
lagrange151 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 45723 Location: SoCal Posts: 97	for 35" just cut the fenders, they'll fit

10-26-2005, 10:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
mudslinger99 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37519 Location: here Posts: 1,263	I gave you good advise on what will be the best set up to handle the task you described and be the cheapest way to go.. __________________ [COLOR="Black"]..............[/COLOR]/´¯/) [COLOR="Black"]............[/COLOR],/¯../ [COLOR="Black"]...........[/COLOR]/..../ [COLOR="Black"].....[/COLOR]/´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ [COLOR="Black"]..[/COLOR]/'/.../..../......./¨¯\ [COLOR="Black"].[/COLOR]('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') [COLOR="Black"]....[/COLOR]\.................'...../ [COLOR="Black"]......[/COLOR]''...\.......... _.·´ [COLOR="Black"].......[/COLOR]\..............( [COLOR="Black"].........[/COLOR]\.............\

10-26-2005, 11:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
Crank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40754 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 115	I know, I read that and looked up the prices on those parts, seems like what I want to do... I'm still not sure tho, will a lift spring have a good enough rate to say, pull a car trailer? I mean, as long as it is stiff it should be pretty good, but if it's a lift spring, then just squats it aint gonna do me nary any good. I guess hence you recommending the rough country. Thanks again guys Brandon

10-26-2005, 11:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
mudslinger99 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37519 Location: here Posts: 1,263	If you don't go over a 6 inch lift then towing with it will be fine.. Granted a lifted truck is not the best for towing but people have been doing it for years with no problem.. I have towed car trailers, boats, and plenty of other stuff with no issues.. The Rough Country springs have about the heaviest spring rate unless you get some custom made which = $$.. You can always get helper springs to go along with them if you felt they weren't enough but I don't think you will.. Or air bags like the others mentioned but you said cheap and IMO you don't need them.. __________________ [COLOR="Black"]..............[/COLOR]/´¯/) [COLOR="Black"]............[/COLOR],/¯../ [COLOR="Black"]...........[/COLOR]/..../ [COLOR="Black"].....[/COLOR]/´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ [COLOR="Black"]..[/COLOR]/'/.../..../......./¨¯\ [COLOR="Black"].[/COLOR]('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') [COLOR="Black"]....[/COLOR]\.................'...../ [COLOR="Black"]......[/COLOR]''...\.......... _.·´ [COLOR="Black"].......[/COLOR]\..............( [COLOR="Black"].........[/COLOR]\.............\

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