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suburban N progress · 11-30-2005, 03:54 PM

Ive tried searching, and either im not putting in key words or im getting info on the older 465/205 modles that used the 10spline set up......

I have a sm465/208 combo in my 86 burban, that has the 32 spline output and i know that the th400/205 used a 32 spline input/output, Im trying to rid myself of this 208 with a 205 case but cant find any info on what adapter is needed or what, I understand that the 465/205 set up is strong but the 10spline output and sleave wear pretty badly, CAN anyone help??? Would rather have a 205 if getting it onto my 465 isnt that hard to do...

orangefj45 · 11-30-2005, 04:59 PM

you'll need to find yourself a 465-205 adapter which really isn't that tough. the input for the t-case (np205c) might be a different story. i believe the later model 465s (32 spline rear output) with the 205s behind them used the round adapter bolt pattern, not the figure "8" or peanut type. try getting a hold of the guys at ORD, they make the doublers and know this stuff like the back of their hand.

suburban N progress · 11-30-2005, 07:58 PM

thanks...i actually have that site in my favorites..sorry for the newb question, sitting in my favorites the whole time

k10caddy · 11-30-2005, 08:59 PM

you can use your 465/208 adapter. just get a later round circle 205 off of a th400 or sm465. http://www.advanceadapters.com/catalog/041.html

u2slow · 11-30-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by k10caddy

you can use your 465/208 adapter. just get a later round circle 205 off of a th400 or sm465. [/url]

You need the stock SM465/205 adapter to go with it.... its about 2" longer than the 208 one. Basically the same shape, but notched for the 205 shift rail, and has the shifter boss.

Another way to go is to use A/A's #51-6910 with the existing 208 adapter. (The same part # is for running the round 205 on a NV4500).

k10caddy · 11-30-2005, 10:38 PM

so the stock adapter(p/n 51-7005) that AA sells is wrong?
"fits the GM SM465 to the circular GM NP205 or GM NP208 transfer cases" what else is listed incorrectly?

u2slow · 11-30-2005, 11:29 PM

Hard to say... Its probably one or the other - it just can't be both if it is indeed an OE part they are selling.

Quote:

what else is listed incorrectly?

Good question.

suburban N progress · 12-02-2005, 11:24 AM

okay..im lost..what i got out of this was my stock 208 adapter will bolt up to a newer 205 with the circular pattern???

shadetree6969 · 12-02-2005, 12:15 PM

It should have to be notched to clear the shift rail on the 205.

Hammered Scout · 12-02-2005, 05:38 PM

Just bolt a 32 spline Atlas behind it!

u2slow · 12-02-2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburban N progress

okay..im lost..what i got out of this was my stock 208 adapter will bolt up to a newer 205 with the circular pattern???

Nope. Here's pic of the 85+ NP205.

Can you see the shift rail?
Note the long female input shaft... that why the proper adapter is roughly 2" longer than the one for the 208.

scout254 · 12-02-2005, 08:43 PM

If I remember correctly, my buddy used this trans for his setup. He used the 465 with the 208 long output shaft with 32 spline and orig 208 adapter. What he did was mount it to a 203 in which he modified it and redrilled the round pattern on the 203. Then he bought the ORD doubler kit to have the 205 behind it.

11-30-2005, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
suburban N progress Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43029 Posts: 258	sm465/208 questions, Ive tried searching, and either im not putting in key words or im getting info on the older 465/205 modles that used the 10spline set up...... I have a sm465/208 combo in my 86 burban, that has the 32 spline output and i know that the th400/205 used a 32 spline input/output, Im trying to rid myself of this 208 with a 205 case but cant find any info on what adapter is needed or what, I understand that the 465/205 set up is strong but the 10spline output and sleave wear pretty badly, CAN anyone help??? Would rather have a 205 if getting it onto my 465 isnt that hard to do...

11-30-2005, 04:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
orangefj45 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6816 Location: Fawk if I know Posts: 15,276	you'll need to find yourself a 465-205 adapter which really isn't that tough. the input for the t-case (np205c) might be a different story. i believe the later model 465s (32 spline rear output) with the 205s behind them used the round adapter bolt pattern, not the figure "8" or peanut type. try getting a hold of the guys at ORD, they make the doublers and know this stuff like the back of their hand. __________________ Maybe you outta stick to legos!

11-30-2005, 08:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
k10caddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 45101 Location: new england Posts: 103	you can use your 465/208 adapter. just get a later round circle 205 off of a th400 or sm465. http://www.advanceadapters.com/catalog/041.html __________________ caddy powered '80's chevy... D60; 14FF-LL; 12K ramsey; 35's; parked for the winter. [SIZE="3"]I agree! IntelliTXT is of no good .[/SIZE]

11-30-2005, 10:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
k10caddy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 45101 Location: new england Posts: 103	so the stock adapter(p/n 51-7005) that AA sells is wrong? "fits the GM SM465 to the circular GM NP205 or GM NP208 transfer cases" what else is listed incorrectly? __________________ caddy powered '80's chevy... D60; 14FF-LL; 12K ramsey; 35's; parked for the winter. [SIZE="3"]I agree! IntelliTXT is of no good .[/SIZE]

12-02-2005, 05:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Hammered Scout Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 62561 Location: SOCAL Posts: 773	Just bolt a 32 spline Atlas behind it! __________________ 69 Scout 800, 60F,14bolt,6.0 LQ9/T400/Atlas4.3,39.5 Swampers, 2001 Dodge CTD 6Spd H.O, 4x4, 1965 Unimog [SIZE="4"]"If your buddie was shot in the ass with diamonds, coils and 4 link would be the way to go IMO." [/SIZE]

11-30-2005, 07:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
suburban N progress Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43029 Posts: 258	thanks...i actually have that site in my favorites..sorry for the newb question, sitting in my favorites the whole time

12-02-2005, 11:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
suburban N progress Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43029 Posts: 258	okay..im lost..what i got out of this was my stock 208 adapter will bolt up to a newer 205 with the circular pattern???

12-02-2005, 12:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
shadetree6969 Wheeler Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 32538 Location: Tennessee Posts: 352	It should have to be notched to clear the shift rail on the 205.

12-02-2005, 08:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
scout254 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 56574 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 1,160	sm465 If I remember correctly, my buddy used this trans for his setup. He used the 465 with the 208 long output shaft with 32 spline and orig 208 adapter. What he did was mount it to a 203 in which he modified it and redrilled the round pattern on the 203. Then he bought the ORD doubler kit to have the 205 behind it. __________________ 63 Scout 80, 350 sm465 klune 205, 1 tons, 40" Mtr's

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