14 bolt FF disk brake - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

stu-pmotostu · 09-23-2006, 07:50 PM

wondering what websites or parts that other pepole have used to do a disk brake conversion on CORP. 14 BOLT FF. I have striped off the drums and am ready to order.... have been considering TSM kit ...... ANY IDEAS
THANKS

77k5 · 09-23-2006, 10:50 PM

I have the TSM kit (won a gift certificate for it) and couldn't be happier

LT1CJ · 09-24-2006, 05:00 AM

Greatlakesoffroad. He is a vendor on this site. He has what you need and will take good care of you.

cbbr · 09-24-2006, 07:25 AM

http://www.blackwidowperformance.com has full kits.

cbbr · 09-24-2006, 07:26 AM

If you need just the brackets talk to Gravel Maker or go look at www.ruffstuffspecialties.com

zachv · 09-24-2006, 07:43 AM

Check out this great link from Billa Vista. It has all of the info you need to do the swap right and cheaper than buying a kit. You can use a weld-on bracket from Ruff Stuff Specialties or their sweet bolt-on adapter that uses the calipers and rotors that Billa Vista did.
That is the setup I will be running on the 14-bolt I picked up this past week.
Good luck.

bigyellowjimmy · 09-24-2006, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LT1CJ

Greatlakesoffroad. He is a vendor on this site. He has what you need and will take good care of you.

X2 Shawn has great products, I used his kit and everything fit perfectly

Great Lake Offroad
(260) 387-1428

mj · 09-24-2006, 08:46 AM

TSM and Blackbird are both overpriced so far it isnt even funny.
GreatLakeOffroad is THE man for brake conversion brackets.
I have never purchased from him but I have had similar brackets custom laser cut so i know what is involved.

Cheepin · 09-24-2006, 05:04 PM

Ruffstuff has lots of brackets and perches for cheap.I will be ordering my diskbrake brackets from them.They are 3/8" and have a bend so you don't need the spacers.

Greatlakeoffroad · 09-24-2006, 07:06 PM

Thanks for all who gave me props here and as always its nice to see the other vendors of this board taking a professional nuetral stance.

Just to give you guys an update. I am no longer using DOM tube spacers (and to answer another question no it is not because they ever sheared off bolts

) We have actually been in the process of refining all our products due to wanna bees copying our original designs. And since I am in the laser/fab business we are now taking up the space w/ 4 small angles that have been laser cut for a precise fit and welded to your brackets. What does this mean? Well for one it means no more having to use a BFH to try and get a bent bracket to line up correctly only to have your pads wear at a quick uneven pace. Would the pads not lining up correctly cause bad braking performance? The answer is yes and in the long run more money from your pocket. Not to mention thick formed steel typically develops minute cracks at the bends that can stress and fracture over time. New low pricing to be released soon. Thanks guys, Shawn

maddog411 · 09-24-2006, 09:57 PM

I have the brackets from Ruff Stuff Specialties and they seem to work pretty well...I like the bend as well. They don't come with bolts though. For rotors you can just get the fronts from an OOBS Chevy 3/4 ton at a parts store, I think I used the ones for an '80 model. You can you either the calipers and pads from the front of the same model truck or if you want a built in e-brake get the calipers/pads for a 76-78 Cadillac Eldorado.

ChiScouter · 09-24-2006, 10:07 PM

You guys are in the dark ages, as always the latest greatest tech is on the binder board

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...88#post5938188

.

78Suburban · 09-25-2006, 06:08 AM

I got mine from www.diy4x.com and am happy with them.

mj · 09-25-2006, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiScouter

You guys are in the dark ages, as always the latest greatest tech is on the binder board

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...88#post5938188

.

can you explain why he didnt just use the new dodge axle under his ride instead of adapting the brakes?

ChiScouter · 09-25-2006, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mj

can you explain why he didnt just use the new dodge axle under his ride instead of adapting the brakes?

Too bad you couldn't think of it, but here is a radical idea. Why don't you ask HIM?

BAB-T · 04-16-2011, 09:13 PM

Did you use diy4X.com's Dana 70 disc conversion kit on your 14 bolt axle? Just curious to your set-up and the hub dimensions. Anybody have input on hub dimensions for a 14 bolt/Dana 70 if they are different?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78Suburban

I got mine from www.diy4x.com and am happy with them.

BAB-T · 04-16-2011, 09:17 PM

In case anybody is wondering why i asked for hub dimensions i reckon i should say the diy4X.com Dana 70 disc conversion kit comes with a rotor said to be larger hub diametered.

"This kit will include the rotors as well. The rotors are not an off the shelf item. Dana 70 hubs (that we have seen) require a larger center hole. This is the reason for non standard rotors. Rotor availability is no problem we have them on the shelf now! This kit uses the same caliper as our 14BFF kit. A 76-78 Eldorado caliper or a 71-87 GM 3/4 ton 4x4 front caliper."

cj8scrambld · 04-17-2011, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mj

TSM and Blackbird are both overpriced so far it isnt even funny.

I agree 110%

I used RuffStuff and I am very pleased, worked out perfect.

DIY4X · 04-28-2011, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAB-T

In case anybody is wondering why i asked for hub dimensions i reckon i should say the diy4X.com Dana 70 disc conversion kit comes with a rotor said to be larger hub diametered.

"This kit will include the rotors as well. The rotors are not an off the shelf item. Dana 70 hubs (that we have seen) require a larger center hole. This is the reason for non standard rotors. Rotor availability is no problem we have them on the shelf now! This kit uses the same caliper as our 14BFF kit. A 76-78 Eldorado caliper or a 71-87 GM 3/4 ton 4x4 front caliper."

Looks to me like this is an OLD install photo. Back in the day before we started bending the 14BFF brackets. I see some spacers on the backside.

GMCTruxrule · 04-29-2011, 01:27 PM

Another vote for Shawn at Greatlakesoffroad.

Got mine from him, perfect fit.

gotblazers · 04-29-2011, 07:18 PM

Be careful what year 14 bolt FF you get. mine is out of an <84 and it has a slightly larger diameter between the backing plate mounting and the spindle. This caused my spacers to not work so instead i got some 3/4'' x 1/2'' I.D out of galvanized 1/8'' steel tubing. Its not a big deal,Just an issue you may encounter.

glenns89 · 04-29-2011, 08:59 PM

This thread was bumped from 2006. I think it is an old install photo for sure.......

09-23-2006, 07:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
stu-pmotostu Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 79727 Posts: 1	14 bolt FF disk brake wondering what websites or parts that other pepole have used to do a disk brake conversion on CORP. 14 BOLT FF. I have striped off the drums and am ready to order.... have been considering TSM kit ...... ANY IDEAS THANKS

09-24-2006, 07:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
cbbr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34555 Location: Shiny Side Down Posts: 822	http://www.blackwidowperformance.com has full kits. __________________ Run when you can, walk if you have to, crawl if you must; never give up.

09-24-2006, 07:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
cbbr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34555 Location: Shiny Side Down Posts: 822	If you need just the brackets talk to Gravel Maker or go look at www.ruffstuffspecialties.com __________________ Run when you can, walk if you have to, crawl if you must; never give up.

09-24-2006, 07:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
zachv Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8108 Location: SCHUYLKILL HAVEN, PA Posts: 4,067	Check out this great link from Billa Vista. It has all of the info you need to do the swap right and cheaper than buying a kit. You can use a weld-on bracket from Ruff Stuff Specialties or their sweet bolt-on adapter that uses the calipers and rotors that Billa Vista did. That is the setup I will be running on the 14-bolt I picked up this past week. Good luck. __________________ AtoZ Fabrication, Inc. 570-385-3931--shop 570-385-3932--fax MADE IN AMERICA---and proud of it!!! We also offer the best service and prices available on: Advance Adapters Clayton Offroad Suspension Raceline beadlocks wheels Amsteel Winchline and accessories ORI struts and Radflo shocks Read my story about Todd at F&S Racing in the Bad Sellers forum

09-24-2006, 05:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cheepin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1792 Location: Parachute,CO Posts: 2,358	Ruffstuff has lots of brackets and perches for cheap.I will be ordering my diskbrake brackets from them.They are 3/8" and have a bend so you don't need the spacers. __________________ CJJuggy.FI406/465/205/D60/14bolt FF on 39.5 Swampers.Kids 70Jeepster fullwidth on 34/9.50 swampers.

09-23-2006, 10:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
77k5 Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35786 Location: Carbondale, CO Posts: 813	I have the TSM kit (won a gift certificate for it) and couldn't be happier

09-24-2006, 05:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
LT1CJ Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41014 Location: NY Posts: 269	Greatlakesoffroad. He is a vendor on this site. He has what you need and will take good care of you.

09-24-2006, 08:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	TSM and Blackbird are both overpriced so far it isnt even funny. GreatLakeOffroad is THE man for brake conversion brackets. I have never purchased from him but I have had similar brackets custom laser cut so i know what is involved.

09-24-2006, 07:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Greatlakeoffroad Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 32466 Location: Fly Over State Posts: 4,620	Thanks for all who gave me props here and as always its nice to see the other vendors of this board taking a professional nuetral stance. Just to give you guys an update. I am no longer using DOM tube spacers (and to answer another question no it is not because they ever sheared off bolts ) We have actually been in the process of refining all our products due to wanna bees copying our original designs. And since I am in the laser/fab business we are now taking up the space w/ 4 small angles that have been laser cut for a precise fit and welded to your brackets. What does this mean? Well for one it means no more having to use a BFH to try and get a bent bracket to line up correctly only to have your pads wear at a quick uneven pace. Would the pads not lining up correctly cause bad braking performance? The answer is yes and in the long run more money from your pocket. Not to mention thick formed steel typically develops minute cracks at the bends that can stress and fracture over time. New low pricing to be released soon. Thanks guys, Shawn __________________ http://www.greatlakeoffroad.com Don't Forget Your Discount enter Pirate10 to get your 10% discount off

09-24-2006, 09:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
maddog411 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 42026 Posts: 104	I have the brackets from Ruff Stuff Specialties and they seem to work pretty well...I like the bend as well. They don't come with bolts though. For rotors you can just get the fronts from an OOBS Chevy 3/4 ton at a parts store, I think I used the ones for an '80 model. You can you either the calipers and pads from the front of the same model truck or if you want a built in e-brake get the calipers/pads for a 76-78 Cadillac Eldorado.

09-24-2006, 10:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
ChiScouter Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9835 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,078	You guys are in the dark ages, as always the latest greatest tech is on the binder board http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...88#post5938188 .

09-25-2006, 06:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
78Suburban Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67921 Location: Georgia Posts: 37	I got mine from www.diy4x.com and am happy with them.

04-16-2011, 09:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
BAB-T Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Member # 188302 Location: Richmond Posts: 44	In case anybody is wondering why i asked for hub dimensions i reckon i should say the diy4X.com Dana 70 disc conversion kit comes with a rotor said to be larger hub diametered. "This kit will include the rotors as well. The rotors are not an off the shelf item. Dana 70 hubs (that we have seen) require a larger center hole. This is the reason for non standard rotors. Rotor availability is no problem we have them on the shelf now! This kit uses the same caliper as our 14BFF kit. A 76-78 Eldorado caliper or a 71-87 GM 3/4 ton 4x4 front caliper." __________________ Bad Ass Black Truck Local Mosquito Control

04-29-2011, 01:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
GMCTruxrule Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51243 Location: Tropical Paradise Posts: 3,410	Another vote for Shawn at Greatlakesoffroad. Got mine from him, perfect fit. __________________ [COLOR="Lime"][B]1999 Chevy K3500, 5.7/4L80E/14FF/stock/stock/stock[/B][/COLOR]

04-29-2011, 07:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
gotblazers Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Member # 161463 Location: Hollister,CA Posts: 234	Be careful what year 14 bolt FF you get. mine is out of an <84 and it has a slightly larger diameter between the backing plate mounting and the spindle. This caused my spacers to not work so instead i got some 3/4'' x 1/2'' I.D out of galvanized 1/8'' steel tubing. Its not a big deal,Just an issue you may encounter. __________________ [URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=14188243#post14188243"]Parting out 88 3/4 ton chevy pick up [/URL]

04-29-2011, 08:59 PM	#22 (permalink)
glenns89 Mr Mom Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 94897 Location: rancho cucamonga, so cal Posts: 1,595	This thread was bumped from 2006. I think it is an old install photo for sure....... __________________ 89 jimmy D60/ff14bolt/400/203/205. Detroit rear, open front for now.

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