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pennsylvaniaboy · 10-24-2007, 05:49 PM

ok so i know this is a sorta like beating a dead horse but here are my options and questions
A. do i use my sm465(not sure on adapter prolly 10 spline) w/205 what i would like to do is add a divorced 205 and create a doubler but not sure if i can clock first 205 to clear rear 205. this idea being that i can run a hydro motor of the orignal front output or even a pto.

B. find a sm465 with a 205 and then do a 205 doubler. this would mean finding a new tranny combo instead of current one. and thus fine a 32 spline 205 from a th400 which i dont have.

C. run a th400 w/ a 203 already on it and still find a 205 from a th400.

i currently dont know whats output/input the current combo is in the truck and have a spare sm465 10spline tranny and 205 but tranny is torn apart due to the normal sm465 kick out.

i really like the idea of twin 205s and then having pto abilities as these winchs never fail.

KWTMECH · 10-24-2007, 05:54 PM

Vehicle that these are going in may help on the survey. Length could be an issue

pennsylvaniaboy · 10-24-2007, 07:38 PM

'79 1 ton long bed

KWTMECH · 10-25-2007, 07:54 AM

For the ultimate strength, I wold lean towards the 465/203/205 combo. Next would be the 400/203/205. Running a divorced 205 ---in my opinion-- just creates possible vibration problems down the road.

pennsylvaniaboy · 10-25-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KWTMECH

For the ultimate strength, I wold lean towards the 465/203/205 combo. Next would be the 400/203/205. Running a divorced 205 ---in my opinion-- just creates possible vibration problems down the road.

lol i dont get how ppl get so many vibration problems. dang you mount them solid with good bushings ..no vibration. thatd be like saying that it i run a manul ill get vibes lol

KWTMECH · 10-25-2007, 10:43 AM

Do what you want to do then. I'm just saying what I have experienced for the last 35 years I have been working on trucks and 4xs. Bushings wear out, drivelines get dinged, u-joints wear out etc.

79chevy39.5's · 10-25-2007, 01:18 PM

also depends on where your wheelin at for rocks id personaly go with 400/203/205 for trail id run the setup you didnt list 465/208 with loped off front output to a divorced 205 as the 465/208s can be had cheaper than the 203 and the 205/205 setup i think would be problematic and heavy

packnrat · 10-26-2007, 07:05 AM

thought about a klune?

1tonF100 · 10-26-2007, 07:11 AM

im running 203/205 doubler with WMS 3:1 reduction for the 203

pennsylvaniaboy · 10-29-2007, 09:53 AM

well guys the reason i wsa considering a 205/205 with loping off the one output is that its cheap for me i have the available parts. plus i have the wheel base and its maily mud and trails not too many rocks

RMsBigBlazer · 10-29-2007, 03:13 PM

I had thought about doing the same thing. Pretty much like the 208 setup with the chopped case only with a stronger 205 housing. I'm interested to see the opinions on this one. I got a divorced 205 from an international just calling my name...

View Poll Results: which combo
sm465/205/205	4	26.67%
buy new sm465/203 combo and find a th400 205	5	33.33%
find a th400/203 combo and a th400 205	6	40.00%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

10-24-2007, 05:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
pennsylvaniaboy Fullsize wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83301 Location: everett, pa Posts: 2,464	doubler please help ok so i know this is a sorta like beating a dead horse but here are my options and questions A. do i use my sm465(not sure on adapter prolly 10 spline) w/205 what i would like to do is add a divorced 205 and create a doubler but not sure if i can clock first 205 to clear rear 205. this idea being that i can run a hydro motor of the orignal front output or even a pto. B. find a sm465 with a 205 and then do a 205 doubler. this would mean finding a new tranny combo instead of current one. and thus fine a 32 spline 205 from a th400 which i dont have. C. run a th400 w/ a 203 already on it and still find a 205 from a th400. i currently dont know whats output/input the current combo is in the truck and have a spare sm465 10spline tranny and 205 but tranny is torn apart due to the normal sm465 kick out. i really like the idea of twin 205s and then having pto abilities as these winchs never fail.

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10-24-2007, 05:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
KWTMECH Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13786 Location: moved 7 miles to colfax, ca. Posts: 4,224	Vehicle that these are going in may help on the survey. Length could be an issue

10-24-2007, 07:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
pennsylvaniaboy Fullsize wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83301 Location: everett, pa Posts: 2,464	'79 1 ton long bed

10-25-2007, 07:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
KWTMECH Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13786 Location: moved 7 miles to colfax, ca. Posts: 4,224	For the ultimate strength, I wold lean towards the 465/203/205 combo. Next would be the 400/203/205. Running a divorced 205 ---in my opinion-- just creates possible vibration problems down the road.

10-25-2007, 10:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
KWTMECH Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13786 Location: moved 7 miles to colfax, ca. Posts: 4,224	Do what you want to do then. I'm just saying what I have experienced for the last 35 years I have been working on trucks and 4xs. Bushings wear out, drivelines get dinged, u-joints wear out etc.

10-25-2007, 01:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
79chevy39.5's Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 67935 Location: kennewick WA Posts: 1,023	also depends on where your wheelin at for rocks id personaly go with 400/203/205 for trail id run the setup you didnt list 465/208 with loped off front output to a divorced 205 as the 465/208s can be had cheaper than the 203 and the 205/205 setup i think would be problematic and heavy

10-26-2007, 07:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
packnrat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31529 Posts: 564	thought about a klune?

10-26-2007, 07:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
1tonF100 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64075 Location: Northeast Florida Posts: 1,087	im running 203/205 doubler with WMS 3:1 reduction for the 203

10-29-2007, 09:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
pennsylvaniaboy Fullsize wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83301 Location: everett, pa Posts: 2,464	well guys the reason i wsa considering a 205/205 with loping off the one output is that its cheap for me i have the available parts. plus i have the wheel base and its maily mud and trails not too many rocks

10-29-2007, 03:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
RMsBigBlazer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63969 Location: Western MA Posts: 42	I had thought about doing the same thing. Pretty much like the 208 setup with the chopped case only with a stronger 205 housing. I'm interested to see the opinions on this one. I got a divorced 205 from an international just calling my name...