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Old 02-17-2008, 02:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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s10 sas kit

so this is the story. i recently start a business with my brother. we are making 4x4 parts, but primarily for the s10 platform, at least for now. and just to clarify right off the bat, im not a vendor on this site and i am not trying to sell this here, at least not yet. i just figured you guys would like to see what a fellow member is up to. my personal goal is to become like the diy4x of the s10 world.

so, we have this kit that we are developing for the s10 pickups and blazers, its a bolt on sas kit. it is designed to give 10" or more with SUA, currently the tallest suspension lift for an s10 is 6". the kit is designed with a variety of axles in mind for all those guys that want to run what is easily found, not just that one or two year only axle that people think it made out of gold. i wont list them all, but we will say it is a lot of axles to choose from. the kit uses leafs in the front, but it uses fairly long leaves with offset pins, and works with several common JY springs. this is done for a few reasons, 1st it puts the axle in the stock or forward from stock position without mounting the spring a foot in front of the bumper. 2nd, s10 frames are fairly notorious for being challenging for the shackle placement. they are not symmetrical from side to side were the shackles would go, and they have a fairly wide width on the frame so the shackles have to go inside somewhat, they cant easily be put directly under the frame rail. anyways, i chose to make the kit work with springs that put the shackle on a good spot on the frame, both flat and straight.

getting up to speed, we got our first prototype cut out and formed this weekend. we cut out the from half of the kit, which is going on my 89 blazer, but i will be 4 linking the rear now so i cant use the rear half (uses leafs still). hopefully it will be all tacked up tomorrow, and maybe done welded by the end of the week. i still have a lot of fitting and adjustments to make to it because its the first prototype and needs a little tweaking here or there.

the front crossmember has a built in mount for a winch that should clear the core support without any mods, and the shackle mounts bolt to a new trans crossmember that is clearanced for the driveshaft (stock ones go under the driveshaft and have to be modified to run sfa. the kit itself is pretty neat and should come with a bunch of stuff that should make most s10 guys happy, with hopefully a good price to go with it.

anyways, on to the pics.









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we also cut out a prototype of a generic weld on front crossmember that we will probably be selling much sooner than the bolt on kit.


we also cut out these sweet shock towers


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Looks good man, I like what u are doing. Just curious, is this the only thing going on in that place? Its fucking huge!!
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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what would be the price on these do you think?

im doing this swap as we speak, i already made the front crossmember, basicly same kinda design as yours but of course very crude. and in about a hour im going out back to make the rear mounts. so id be curious to know what something like this would run? i sure as heck dont want to build another one.

i love the bolt on idea. im bolting what i can also just to be paranoid incase the welds break
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I'd be interested in the kit. What kind of price are we looking at?? I just might do mine sooner if the price is right....
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the price is no where near set in stone, it depends a lot on how many we order and such. but i want to shoot for $1000-$1200 give or take, which includes the rear too, and should start about about 10" of lift i think. there are still a lot of variables, and i am going to beat the shit out of that one we just made before i would be comfortable selling something like that.
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Looks good man, I like what u are doing. Just curious, is this the only thing going on in that place? Its fucking huge!!
thats like 3 am, thats why no one else is in there.
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interesting...



congrats, you've sucessfully copied 2 readily available products. how cutting edge.
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Who sells a bolt on S10 SAS kit?
Is that one in the pics you provided, sure doesn't look like it? Looks to be a weld on kit.
And is that for an S10 or is it for a Yota or something else?
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i wasnt talking about the bolt on S10 kit, i was talking about the front crossmember. the kit pictured is actually Sky's 73-87 hanger drop kit for the front.

in order to use a standard 32.5" leaf sprung axle, the shackle eye is going to be in the center of the frame, how are you going to make something bolt on for that?
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in order to use a standard 32.5" leaf sprung axle, the shackle eye is going to be in the center of the frame, how are you going to make something bolt on for that?
anythiing is possible. you can make something that wraps around both sides of the frame then have it offset in a bit and hang down. just have to drill some holes in the frame. itll be a cluster of a design but very doable. it would have been nice if the dang springs lined up with the frame. i spent 8 hours today thinking and fabbing up those rear hangers, bunch of crap
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i wasnt talking about the bolt on S10 kit, i was talking about the front crossmember. the kit pictured is actually Sky's 73-87 hanger drop kit for the front.

in order to use a standard 32.5" leaf sprung axle, the shackle eye is going to be in the center of the frame, how are you going to make something bolt on for that?
yeah, my design is similar to the sky one, i know the guy that designed it for sky. ours is similar, but different. for one, the one kit is bolt on, and has a lot more features than the generic one. but the generic one is almost all one piece, with just two small weld on spots. i personally prefer our design, but it could be just me. and yes, my shock tower is basically just a copy of the ford one, so what?


as for the shackles, ours do wrap around both sides of the frame, and are tied together with a new trans crossmember that is already clearanced for the driveshaft and is flippable to run a pass drop axle without needing any extra pieces.

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yeah, my design is similar to the sky one, i know the guy that designed it for sky. ours is similar, but different. for one, the one kit is bolt on, and has a lot more features than the generic one. but the generic one is almost all one piece, with just two small weld on spots. i personally prefer our design, but it could be just me. and yes, my shock tower is basically just a copy of the ford one, so what?


as for the shackles, ours do wrap around both sides of the frame, and are tied together with a new trans crossmember that is already clearanced for the driveshaft and is flippable to run a pass drop axle without needing any extra pieces.

Afterall it is hard to redesign the wheel when it still works. Alot of things look the same. Take for example shackles.... How can you make them different when they all do the same thing.Donahue it looks good Bro.
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Afterall it is hard to redesign the wheel when it still works. Alot of things look the same. Take for example shackles.... How can you make them different when they all do the same thing.Donahue it looks good Bro.
yep, all you can do is try and make it fancier
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Yeah all the parts serve the same function so It is really just making little things different. I dig it man. I think you will sell alot of stuff. As a Kit I am sure. But make sure you make your parts sell piece by peice too. There are some items I would buy vs build. But you can ask pretty much any price since you really are a "bolt on deal" Nobody has them for s10s. It seems there is more bs about it than people really doing it. Now you need to make link mounts for the rig as well.
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Yeah all the parts serve the same function so It is really just making little things different. I dig it man. I think you will sell alot of stuff. As a Kit I am sure. But make sure you make your parts sell piece by peice too. There are some items I would buy vs build. But you can ask pretty much any price since you really are a "bolt on deal" Nobody has them for s10s. It seems there is more bs about it than people really doing it. Now you need to make link mounts for the rig as well.
they were cut out in the same sheet

i just didnt take any pictures of them.
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make sure you make your parts sell piece by peice too. There are some items I would buy vs build.
yeah i dig the rear crossmember, hell i might have bought that. the front was really easy to make, just get some square tubing and cut it to fit, anyone with a 4 1/2 inch angle grinder can make one.
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yeah i dig the rear crossmember, hell i might have bought that. the front was really easy to make, just get some square tubing and cut it to fit, anyone with a 4 1/2 inch angle grinder can make one.
yeah, i know people can make them with out of angle iron and sq tube, but not everyone wants something so simple. mine has an integrated winch mount, and like said earlier will be bolt on. the generic one is just for those that are too lazy to fab one up, or want something that looks cooler than sq tube.

the thing about my shackle crossmembers is they are designed to hit a certain spot on the frame, and require the use of a fairly long spring. so they might not work for some people with a certain spring in mind.

and probably everything i make will be able to be had individually, but will be cheaper in a set (read incentive to buy it all).
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interesting...
yeah, just found that ford tower for cheap, probably wont be selling too many of those. but either way i made the ones i have for free, and they will be used on my project so im not out anything.
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Nice looking kit.....do what you want....there is a market for this...keep up the good work/design
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Nice looking kit.....do what you want....there is a market for this...keep up the good work/design
thanks. i know there is a market for it, there is practically no aftermarket for s10's and there needs to be. they are everywhere and for super cheap.
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eh beater just needs to shut it and nice work ...and idea on a price?
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That crossmember is money.

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eh beater just needs to shut it and nice work ...and idea on a price?
post #7. but its a few months out still on both price and availability
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