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Old 07-29-2008, 10:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dana 70 front ?'s

I can get a Dana 70 front axle with 4:88 gears for $750. Is this a pretty good price? Is this a good axle? I got a GM 3/4 ton 10 bolt to go under my 75' GMC right now but been lookin at D60's and they go for $1000+ and say this D70 and thought this would be a better way to go then the 10 bolt and cheaper then the D60. Is there cross-over for this axle or would I need to modify to get Cross-over?

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Old 07-29-2008, 10:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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its all based on d60 stuff just bigger.


have you seen this axle yet?

is it closed or open knuckle?
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no I haven't seen picture's yet, hopefully he'll post some tommrow.

Would it matter open or closed knuckle?
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yup, i would drink my own piss before using a closed knuckle.
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why's that?
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drum brakes
kuckle seals leak horibly[espeicaly bad for florida swamp goobers]
goofy axle joints
on top of just all around hard to get parts for.
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No way of upgrading to disc? I know I can do a disc brake swap on my 14 bolt FF rear for only $320.
Probley to upgrade for seals im sure.
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Closed knuckle front D70's use small joints, small shafts, parts are expensive, etc.

Open knuckle front D70's are ridiculously rare and even then only parts of them are marginally stronger than a D60.

If its closed knuckle its not even worth half of $750.
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sure you can. but why spend the money, now you are over what you would have spent on a d60 open. hell there are 2 open d70s on the board for sale now, im sure you could get them shipped for less than what you would piss away dicking witha closed knuckle.
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Closed D70 = 1/2 ton shafts and joints.... it's not worth your time and you can't convert it over to anything strong without putting open d60 inner C's etc on it so you might as well pick up a open d60/70 to start with.
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I have an opened D70 fron for the rear steer on my buggy. PO put it in and it is one stout setup. Now I have broken the outer shaft on it and have had a difficult time finding a replacement. Looks like it is going to end up being an D60 outer afterall.
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I have an opened D70 fron for the rear steer on my buggy. PO put it in and it is one stout setup. Now I have broken the outer shaft on it and have had a difficult time finding a replacement. Looks like it is going to end up being an D60 outer afterall.
Dana 70 outers are the same thing as 35 spline Dana 60 outers. So why can you not find the shafts?

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not shit i have 3 of them sitting on my floor. and those are stock, not to mention all the after market spanky ones available.
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yes, this all moot if it turns out to be a open knuckle.
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its closed knuckle with durm's
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A local guy tried to sell one of those for $100 and no got no takers.
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alrighty thanks yall
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Closed knuckle front D70's use small joints, small shafts, parts are expensive, etc.

Open knuckle front D70's are ridiculously rare and even then only parts of them are marginally stronger than a D60.

If its closed knuckle its not even worth half of $750.
nothing in them is small. not the shafts. they dont use u joints they use a tracta joint. its a four piece joint that is really really wierd looking. no bearings what so ever just big pieces of metal rubbing against one another.

got mine at a junkyard for 200. im going to retube it to chevy specs and put 60 outers on it.

if its closed knuckle dont even bother with that shit. if it were cheap enough i would say retube it. but for your case i wouldnt mess with it. you would be better of just getting a rear dana 70 or 80 and starting with that.
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Not to mention the tierod that is mounted behind the axle and hangs down lower than the housing.They are worth about ten cents a pound (unless scrap price has went up)
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Not to mention the tierod that is mounted behind the axle and hangs down lower than the housing.They are worth about ten cents a pound (unless scrap price has went up)
only the new d70's from the kodiac's have the tie rod like you mentioned. all the old ones that are mentioned in this thread are the typical configuration.
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only the new d70's from the kodiac's have the tie rod like you mentioned. all the old ones that are mentioned in this thread are the typical configuration.
taken from mr.n's page:



the old dodges, and im pretty sure internationals too, had the tie rod in the back.

i wouldnt scrap any D70 front before checking if it had a two piece case (nice) or a power lock or detroit (even better)
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Ive seen a few and had a few and all of them have had the tierod in the back.Im sure theres variations but all the closed knuckles/drum brakes 70's I've saw were that way.

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why couldnt you just install some deadenbear/Crane C's on em
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