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Old 09-26-2001, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Beefing a front 10bolt ('79 blazer)?

What kinds of goodies can I get to beef one up? Also, anyone running posi or limited slip on the front? If so, I'd like to hear the pro's and con's.
I'm gonna run 35's with some rock crawling...no absolutly insane stuff anytime too soon <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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Old 09-26-2001, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you checked out Steve Frisbie's website?
He has some cool axle trusses.trusses
he is running 37" Boggers on a 10 bolt and that rig is definately badass.
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Old 09-26-2001, 12:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah Powermad because she is from CK5 too lol.... we both have 10b's and I have been trying to figure out what to do other then they alloy shafts....
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Steves stuff is kewl <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> Other than his trusses the only other thing you can do is up grade the shafts to some of the stronger ones and run the best u-joints you can. Carry spares. With a locker its only a matter of time before you blow one. Don't be romping on it with full lock on the steering. The U-Joint is the weakest when the wheels are turned.
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Alloy shafts are important if you're going to thrash, but it helps to machine the stock shafts for full snap rings around the joints.

Add a Detroit Locker, and a good aftermarket gearset. Ditch the auto hubs for a set of Spicers and put a truss on there, and that's about as strong as a 10 bolt is going to get.
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I've got Warns on there. It's a '79 so it never came with auto hubs.
I don't want to lock the front. I was just wondering if posi or limited slip will give better offroading on the front than just open. Basically is it worth the money to go limited or posi on the front or should I just leave it open?
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What is this a CK5 reunion?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Hey yall!
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<STRONG>I've got Warns on there. It's a '79 so it never came with auto hubs.
I don't want to lock the front. I was just wondering if posi or limited slip will give better offroading on the front than just open. Basically is it worth the money to go limited or posi on the front or should I just leave it open?</STRONG>
Will have the least breakage with it open. LS would not be too bad. LOCKed is awsome though GOD I can't belive the traction. I got a lunch box locker in mine (swore I would never do it but did) WOW!!!!!!!! I ran up this nasty rut trail last weekend after the regear and lockers both ends (Detroit in the rear). Didn't disconnect the sway because we had run through a nasty mud puddle before I got the chance. Got some big air with the sway on. Truck just kept crawling foward...never lost traction. I could do no wrong. Good line, bad line it just went. Just know it's a matter of time before I blow a shaft. Already got my spares in the truck for when it happens.
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i run 36 tsl's up front and 37 boggers in the rear with lock rights in both axles ive yet to break anything. i wouldn't get a front posi because a new carrier will cost you about 300 bucks or more and unless you can set it up yourself installation will be 200 or so my front lock right cost me 249 and i put in myself in an afternoon. it doesn't effect steering when in 2wheel the only thing i didnt make it through is the trinity river(hydrolicked the engine) <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/nuke.gif" border="0">
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I was just checking out Steve Watsons site and the shafts that he is selling sound like a good deal.
They are waranted so long as a u-joint does not rip the ears off.
They are machined for the full circle snap rings. $572 for a set. And if you are a member of CK5 you get a 10% discount.
I do believe that I am going to get these.
Those shafts and a set of hub fuses should help to make the axles last .
If a D60 would fall out the sky for that price then I would go with that.
On the other hand I have yet to break a shaft with the D44 that I have now.
But I mainly go wheeling in the mud and sand.
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BTW is anyone else haveing troubles getting into CK5.
It went wacko on me last night and I still can't get on.
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I have been having trouble off and on all day
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First thing, remove the auto hubs. I agree with the others about the hardened shafts...Go with Off Road Design's shafts, they're stronger. You can also upgrade the ujoints with hardened 44 units. A limited slip (posi is just a different name for it)like the Heavy duty version from Auburn and an axle truss also help. I've had mine set up like that for about a year now with no problems and I love to climb rocks. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
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coyote35,
which joints do you run? do you have a part #?
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<STRONG>First thing, remove the auto hubs.</STRONG>
79's never came with auto hubs... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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<STRONG>Will have the least breakage with it open.</STRONG>
Okay, let's say you lift a tire, or you're burnin through the mud. That one tire is going crazy. Then all of the sudden it comes in contact with a rock. SNAP!

I will take a locker any day.

As to LSD, why do people want to spend large amounts of money on something that will still frequently let one tire turn slower than the ring gear <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">
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<STRONG>Okay, let's say you lift a tire, or you're burnin through the mud. That one tire is going crazy. Then all of the sudden it comes in contact with a rock. SNAP!

I will take a locker any day.

As to LSD, why do people want to spend large amounts of money on something that will still frequently let one tire turn slower than the ring gear <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
First off that is driver not part. Wheel spin on any diff equals breakage when it hits somthing and grabs traction.
It all depends on how you drive. with a LS if you get bound up it will let some give. Open will let have some give. Locker no give and you get the tires spinning just like you said and one catches traction not only will to bust the shaft or U-Joint you may take the locker with it.
Me...I don't care for mud. I avoide it when possible. Nothing pisses me off more than crap getting tore up from mud getting into it and trashing it before I can get home. When I start spinning tires I start looking for a better line. I figure if I'm spinning I'm going to break stuff for sure so I try to do that as little as possible. Just one day I'm going to have the wheel cranked trying to get over something and get the front end bound up and I will blow a U-Joint or shaft....it's a given.
I have driven my 2 open front K5's for 5 years and never had a axle failure. It's all the driver and how hard they mash the go peddle. I wheel with folks that break D60's and 205. They are throttle junkies. I'd rather spend the day driving then fixing. I can swallow some crow and take the strap if I can't make it the third try. I guess that's why I have never held up a trail ride with a broke truck in 5 years. I sure have helped patch quite a few of my throttle junkie friends trucks though. Funny thing is we are on the same trail and I was open both ends and a much less built truck.
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I have to beg to differ with some of you. My 79 came with auto hubs. All of the original stickers in my truck say it has auto hubs etc. The prior owner switched to manual. I just put some new warn manuals on. But 79's did come with Auto Hubs, maybe not all, but at least I know mine did.
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Good point Grim. I want to at least start with a 10 bolt because I will learn how to drive better if I have stricter limitations. I will also learn what will cause breakage and learn what not to do.

I'm glad you aren't one of those people who would hold up a trail cause your ego got in the way of a good decision <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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<STRONG>I have to beg to differ with some of you. My 79 came with auto hubs. All of the original stickers in my truck say it has auto hubs etc. The prior owner switched to manual. I just put some new warn manuals on. But 79's did come with Auto Hubs, maybe not all, but at least I know mine did.</STRONG>
Wow, really?
Well mine still had the hubs in from when it was converted to part time and I replaced them with Warns. As far as I know, mine never had auto hubs.
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<STRONG>I have to beg to differ with some of you. My 79 came with auto hubs. All of the original stickers in my truck say it has auto hubs etc. The prior owner switched to manual. I just put some new warn manuals on. But 79's did come with Auto Hubs, maybe not all, but at least I know mine did.</STRONG>
Really Sara? That's weird because I had never seen a 79 with em unless the owner converted it over... must be one of those factory things where the options came with it to go that way... I've learned just when you thought you figured out options for a year someone else says they got different ones... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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