help me convince my friend that he should get a 6" lift instead of a 4" - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

muddogg · 07-31-2001, 10:45 AM

he has a 78 chevy and wants a 4" and 35s, guys, help me to convince him he wants a 6" in the long run!

The Rockslut · 07-31-2001, 11:08 AM

Always go more. If you get the 4 and then realize that the 6 would have been perfect you will be <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0"> Just tell him to get the 6" lift because it is just correct. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Chazzworth · 07-31-2001, 11:59 AM

Yeah I had a 88 K5 and it only had the 4 and it sucked. 6 or more is the way to go.

Chazzworth · 07-31-2001, 12:02 PM

Oh also With my four inch lift I could clear 33's but when flexed up the front would hit. I have seen street trucks run 35's with 4 inch of lift but no offroad for them. If you want to clear 35's you need 6 inch.

Black Dog · 07-31-2001, 12:43 PM

Four inches and a sawzall.

twolber · 07-31-2001, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by muddogg:
he has a 78 chevy and wants a 4" and 35s, guys, help me to convince him he wants a 6" in the long run!

I did the same thing originally! I ended up pulling off the 4" and losing money on it when I sold it to buy the 6". For sure go with the 6 inch!!!!

I still had to do some minor fender trimming with 35s and a 6". Now I'm running 38s with an additional 3" body. It's AWESOME!!!

It sits up just right with the 6" and 35s!!

GO 6 INCH FOR SURE!!!!

Depdog · 07-31-2001, 02:12 PM

Hmm, I have 4" of lift and run 36x14.5x15 Super Swamper TSL Radials. Can pull 1000 on a 25 degree ramp and no rubbing on the trails!

Course I did trim us some sheet metal just a tad here and there.

Depdog

SAVAGE1 · 07-31-2001, 02:27 PM

I agree with the rest of these guys. If you're gonna do it, do it right the first time and save money. 6 inches is just right for 35's and if you want to go bigger, you'll have more versatility to do it... with fender trimming or a body lift.
A month after I lifted my K5 and slapped on the 35" Boggers... the truck didn't seem that big anymore.. so now I'm going bigger.
Running a 4" lift requires a 4" steering arm and extended brake lines. The only extra mods needed to jump to a 6" lift is a 2" pitman arm and a front driveshaft spacer. That's what I'm running and it works great.
Tell your buddy that he will regret going with a 4". Its not much more trouble to run a 6".

chris demartini · 07-31-2001, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Black Dog:
Four inches and a sawzall.

Thats what I have and thats as high as I want to go. You can cruise up and down main street all night long on 35s with a 4" lift and no trimming. Wheel it and you will need to adjust some sheetmetal but if done properly it can look good.

[ 07-31-2001: Message edited by: chrisd ]

Iron Man · 07-31-2001, 07:12 PM

From a financial standpoint, never repeat a modification. Go large the first time and he won't have to pay for a 6 inch kit down the road.

reddwarf · 07-31-2001, 07:36 PM

I talked myself into a 4" lift instead of 6". I ended up adding (GASP!) a 3" body lift when I decided 35"s weren't large enough.

If you are SURE you are going to keep 35" tires FOREVER, 4" will be great, and a minor amt of trimming will keep them from rubbing.

If there is any chance of going to bigger tires, get the 6".

MUDDTOY · 07-31-2001, 09:26 PM

a 6 is the only way to go b/c once you start going up you will want to keep going <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0">

Iron Man · 08-01-2001, 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by MUDDTOY:
a 6 is the only way to go b/c once you start going up you will want to keep going <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0">

Let me be the first to welcome you new guy, but lose the Thornbird line in your sig before the rest catch it.

The Rockslut · 08-01-2001, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Let me be the first to welcome you new guy, but lose the Thornbird line in your sig before the rest catch it.

FatCity · 08-01-2001, 08:47 AM

Go with the 4". I've got a 6" w/ 35's, there is no way the blazer weighs enough to compress thoughs springs. They look like big U's. I'm looking for 4" fronts and some stock rears, so I can lower it and put the 39.5's on.
Just cut it.
Ryan@FatCityOffRoad

Boss · 08-01-2001, 08:49 AM

Definately 4" and sawzall. 6" is ok, no more than that though...you start getting too high up there. Remember, the lower CG the better. I'm running 36" Swamps and 4" lift. Soon to be 38" to 40" Swamps, same lift....sawzall is a good friend of mine
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Boss

Home Built · 08-01-2001, 04:40 PM

I got a four inch lift and 35's and with a little creative fender trimming nothing hits and I can stuff the tires into the wheel wells big time...
A buddy has a six inch lift and can't get the same flex that I can with it.. the more lift you do the less the springs will compress...
you can get softer springs but then you'll be all over the road if it's a daily driver with all the sway you will have..
A lot of how big you want is what kind of 4 wheeling your going to do.. if he's going to be doing trails and rocks then the lower lift I feel would do him better.. if you need clearance for the mud pits then go big and tall..
everyone has a different idea of how big and high they want there truck..
individuality makes the hobby fun and unique..
Just my 2ct's

scoobydann · 08-01-2001, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Black Dog:
Four inches and a sawzall.

i second the motion

pcorssmit · 08-01-2001, 10:53 PM

6" and 35s look/work good...on the STREET.

On the trail, its too little tire and too much lift.

BTW, isn't the biggest Thornbird a 35? (says 38 in sig)

Pete

Rockin' · 08-02-2001, 10:33 AM

Four inch gets my vote. 35s will fit with trimming. The bigger the lift, the stiffer the springs.

For six years I wheeled a 72 Blazer with 35x15.50 SX's. Had a 2.5" susp and 2" body. Allowed me to keep nice soft springs and a lower center of gravity than just a straight 4" spring lift.

reddwarf · 08-02-2001, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pcorssmit:
BTW, isn't the biggest Thornbird a 35? (says 38 in sig)

They make 38x14.50 now. Usually bigger is better,but sometimes it's just more of a bad thing <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Stephen · 08-02-2001, 02:09 PM

4", if it won't clear, cut more, want a little more, do a 1" body. There's plenty of room between the headlights and the firewall for a 40" tire and a 4" lift, right pete!
You may get some dents on the rocker panels, but you won't have as many on the roof.

Rockin' · 08-02-2001, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen:
4", if it won't clear, cut more, want a little more, do a 1" body. There's plenty of room between the headlights and the firewall for a 40" tire and a 4" lift, right pete!
You may get some dents on the rocker panels, but you won't have as many on the roof.

Well put...

CAPT.THROTTLE · 08-03-2001, 04:10 PM

Go with 4" and do some "Tasteful Trimming" By the time mine is all said and done I'll have 39.5 Boggies on a 6".

Iron Man · 08-04-2001, 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by Reddwarf:
They make 38x14.50 now. Usually bigger is better,but sometimes it's just more of a bad thing <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Bahahahahaha

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07-31-2001, 10:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
muddogg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1629 Location: Nehalem, Oregon, U.S. Posts: 359	help me convince my friend that he should get a 6" lift instead of a 4" he has a 78 chevy and wants a 4" and 35s, guys, help me to convince him he wants a 6" in the long run! __________________ '81 F-150 with good sh*t!, WANTED 39.5 boggers!

07-31-2001, 11:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
The Rockslut Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5021 Location: Lincoln, CA Posts: 5,967	Always go more. If you get the 4 and then realize that the 6 would have been perfect you will be <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0"> Just tell him to get the 6" lift because it is just correct. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ Don't be "THAT GUY" on the trail. www.voodoowax.com

07-31-2001, 11:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chazzworth Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3340 Location: US of A. Posts: 1,435	Yeah I had a 88 K5 and it only had the 4 and it sucked. 6 or more is the way to go. __________________ "I once had wealth, power, and the love of a beautiful woman, now I only have two things, my friends, and...uh... my Thermos."

07-31-2001, 12:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chazzworth Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3340 Location: US of A. Posts: 1,435	Oh also With my four inch lift I could clear 33's but when flexed up the front would hit. I have seen street trucks run 35's with 4 inch of lift but no offroad for them. If you want to clear 35's you need 6 inch. __________________ "I once had wealth, power, and the love of a beautiful woman, now I only have two things, my friends, and...uh... my Thermos."

07-31-2001, 12:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Black Dog Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4140 Location: is everything Posts: 1,010	Four inches and a sawzall. __________________ Tim There is no accounting for taste 1936, 1937, 1943, 1950, 1952, 1954, 1955, 1997, 1998, 2002, [B][COLOR="Red"]2008[/COLOR][/B].

07-31-2001, 02:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Depdog Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 605 Location: Stockbridge GA USA Posts: 252	Hmm, I have 4" of lift and run 36x14.5x15 Super Swamper TSL Radials. Can pull 1000 on a 25 degree ramp and no rubbing on the trails! Course I did trim us some sheet metal just a tad here and there. Depdog __________________ Lead, Follow, Or BECOME the Trail

07-31-2001, 02:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
SAVAGE1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2340 Location: Alameda, CA US Posts: 253	I agree with the rest of these guys. If you're gonna do it, do it right the first time and save money. 6 inches is just right for 35's and if you want to go bigger, you'll have more versatility to do it... with fender trimming or a body lift. A month after I lifted my K5 and slapped on the 35" Boggers... the truck didn't seem that big anymore.. so now I'm going bigger. Running a 4" lift requires a 4" steering arm and extended brake lines. The only extra mods needed to jump to a 6" lift is a 2" pitman arm and a front driveshaft spacer. That's what I'm running and it works great. Tell your buddy that he will regret going with a 4". Its not much more trouble to run a 6". __________________ Rod 85 1 TON K5 14BOLT LOCKED/ DANA 60 5.13's WTO Hydro Assist 42's 94 FJ80 CRUZAH

07-31-2001, 07:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Iron Man Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3426 Location: Big Orange Country...Tennessee Posts: 435	From a financial standpoint, never repeat a modification. Go large the first time and he won't have to pay for a 6 inch kit down the road. __________________ Those who beat their guns into plowshares will plow for those who don't.

07-31-2001, 07:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
reddwarf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5306 Location: Melrose Fla Posts: 2,133	I talked myself into a 4" lift instead of 6". I ended up adding (GASP!) a 3" body lift when I decided 35"s weren't large enough. If you are SURE you are going to keep 35" tires FOREVER, 4" will be great, and a minor amt of trimming will keep them from rubbing. If there is any chance of going to bigger tires, get the 6". __________________ "I'm ridin like a felon" -- Doug

07-31-2001, 09:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
MUDDTOY Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 6231 Posts: 1	a 6 is the only way to go b/c once you start going up you will want to keep going <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0"> __________________ 98 Z71 Solid Axle Swap 11" lift 42 TSL

08-01-2001, 08:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
FatCity Adnimistrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2870 Location: Wildomar, Ca. Posts: 2,424	Go with the 4". I've got a 6" w/ 35's, there is no way the blazer weighs enough to compress thoughs springs. They look like big U's. I'm looking for 4" fronts and some stock rears, so I can lower it and put the 39.5's on. Just cut it. Ryan@FatCityOffRoad __________________ FatCity Off-Road Racing

08-01-2001, 08:49 AM	#16 (permalink)
Boss Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1912 Location: Maryland Posts: 159	Definately 4" and sawzall. 6" is ok, no more than that though...you start getting too high up there. Remember, the lower CG the better. I'm running 36" Swamps and 4" lift. Soon to be 38" to 40" Swamps, same lift....sawzall is a good friend of mine <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Boss __________________ 89' K5- 14bolt (Detroit) rear/Dana 60 front(ARB)(35spline outers)-4.56 gears)/ 203/205 Doubler/ Xover Steering with Ram assist / Custom Springs/ High Angle Shafts/ 39.5" TSLs on Modified Hummers/ Lotsa HomeBrew Stuff

08-01-2001, 04:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
Home Built Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5734 Location: Redding Posts: 706	I got a four inch lift and 35's and with a little creative fender trimming nothing hits and I can stuff the tires into the wheel wells big time... A buddy has a six inch lift and can't get the same flex that I can with it.. the more lift you do the less the springs will compress... you can get softer springs but then you'll be all over the road if it's a daily driver with all the sway you will have.. A lot of how big you want is what kind of 4 wheeling your going to do.. if he's going to be doing trails and rocks then the lower lift I feel would do him better.. if you need clearance for the mud pits then go big and tall.. everyone has a different idea of how big and high they want there truck.. individuality makes the hobby fun and unique.. Just my 2ct's __________________ [B]Chicks dig body Damage...[/B] 74 Chevy Fullsize, 39.5 Irocs, D60/FF14bolt, Locked, Lifted, Stroked, Fuel Injected, Hydro assist. with lot's of body damage...

08-01-2001, 10:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
pcorssmit Rock God Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4406 Location: Denver Posts: 2,335	6" and 35s look/work good...on the STREET. On the trail, its too little tire and too much lift. BTW, isn't the biggest Thornbird a 35? (says 38 in sig) Pete __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways , beer in hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOW, what a ride."

08-02-2001, 10:33 AM	#20 (permalink)
Rockin' Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1239 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 1,309	Four inch gets my vote. 35s will fit with trimming. The bigger the lift, the stiffer the springs. For six years I wheeled a 72 Blazer with 35x15.50 SX's. Had a 2.5" susp and 2" body. Allowed me to keep nice soft springs and a lower center of gravity than just a straight 4" spring lift. __________________ Steve 86 Runner and 97 T100 in progress

08-02-2001, 02:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
Stephen Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2092 Location: Carbondale, CO Posts: 858	4", if it won't clear, cut more, want a little more, do a 1" body. There's plenty of room between the headlights and the firewall for a 40" tire and a 4" lift, right pete! You may get some dents on the rocker panels, but you won't have as many on the roof. __________________ Stephen Watson www.offroaddesign.com #4488 KOH '12 12th overall KOH11 28th. It's a finish! KOH11 Sportsmanship Award. Friends & partners who helped: Offroad Design, Pacific Fab, King, Baja Designs, TrailReady, Amsoil, PSC, Tom Woods, Bighorn Graphics, Superior, Optima

08-03-2001, 04:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
CAPT.THROTTLE Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2322 Location: Hollister, CA 95023, USA Posts: 134	Go with 4" and do some "Tasteful Trimming" By the time mine is all said and done I'll have 39.5 Boggies on a 6". __________________ IT'S A FULLSIZE THING, QUIT STEALING MY PARTS!! '73 3/4 Ton Flat Bed, 454, TH400, NP203/NP205, Pro Rock 60 & Corp 14 All Locked Up, 39.5" Boggers on 15"x10" Eaton Bead Locks.

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